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My quest with white rice flour
    #28661954 - 02/16/24 10:10 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

The title sounds a lot cooler than it actually is. I accidentally ordered WRF instead of BRF. The site was showing a BRF pic and the name was simply rice flour so I bought it as I was in a rush. Only when it arrived did I notice it was white rice flour. The description did read the rice was peeled but I bought it impulsively so I'm the one at fault here. Anyways this evening I'll be trying to make some cakes with WRF, verm, nutritional yeast and I'll add some whey protein just in case. I'm not expecting this to go nicely or even work but it won't hurt as I'm not in a rush to grow.

Edit: didn't work, messes up the ratios mycelium is weak and a higher chance for contam atleast with my samples.

Tldr: stick with brf.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar] * 1
    #28662176 - 02/16/24 12:36 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Why the yeast?

I think it will work without the extra stuff.

If you have actual brown rice and a coffee grinder you can next grind a small amount and add it to the mix to get a little more of the germ mixed in.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28662183 - 02/16/24 12:40 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

The yeast is an attempt to replace the vitamins lost when the bran is lost, I'll be putting half to coir as I heard that wrf couldn't produce active fruits, the other half ill try out the theory. Is there any way the yeast could slow/halt cultivation?


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar] * 3
    #28662190 - 02/16/24 12:49 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I dunno.  We don't usually use it in hobby mycology.

Hey friend, I really think you should do some more reading and get the brown rice flour.  I dont think we've seen enough white rice grows to confirm that the don't produce active fruits but if that is your concern you are better off getting the brown rice flour and following an established tek to the T rather than starting to add more stuff.  Are you really not in the position to buy the brown rice flour or grind some yourself?  I think a clever guy like you could find a way to score some brf. You're going to save yourself so much anxiety and potential disappointment instead of wondering if your fruits are potent.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28662196 - 02/16/24 12:52 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28662217 - 02/16/24 01:05 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

What volume of WRF did you buy?
Post a link to where you read white rice flour couldn’t produce active fruits.

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28662227 - 02/16/24 01:10 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I will buy brf, but this is more of a challenge for myself I've been reading into mushrooms cultivation for a while, not enough I will say that but I don't think I will end up disappointed if they don't work out. Also wanna know if I'll be able to get rid of these bags this way or just make some food. Thanks for chiming in I'll update this thread when I see mycelium/contam.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: The Tao]
    #28662228 - 02/16/24 01:10 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3576624
A few 400g baggies. If they won't work out I'll just make some mochi or sum


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28662243 - 02/16/24 01:18 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

How did you find a 19 year old thread?

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: The Tao]
    #28662245 - 02/16/24 01:19 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Search function :grin:


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28662313 - 02/16/24 02:00 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Limit your initial search functions to 2-3 years, move back from there after you’ve read the current information.
I’d buy some BRF and work with proven tek’s but it’s your thread

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: The Tao] * 2
    #28662321 - 02/16/24 02:05 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Brf will be bought this is more of an experiment.
Thanks you 2 for giving your opinion.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28664834 - 02/18/24 01:43 AM (10 months, 23 days ago)

I've added two jars. One as a control with only verm and wrf the other one with half a teaspoon molasses to see if they could be worth adding also. I shouldn't have added the protein as wrf actually has more than brf. Hopefully won't affect the first batch.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28664940 - 02/18/24 06:05 AM (10 months, 23 days ago)

Cakes came out quite wet. Could it be that my verm is too coarse?





Cakes look like this



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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28665553 - 02/18/24 01:38 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

Did you cover the lids?


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28665556 - 02/18/24 01:41 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

Wrong nutrients, verm too coarse and jars too big.

I would not expect much from this experiment.

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Yahra]
    #28665622 - 02/18/24 02:08 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

Jars have a verm layer and were covered with foil during steaming. I guess I'll see, brf is already on it's way. As for the verm I've seen people using search function that say the verm size doesn't matter. Maybe I'll use coffee grinder next time.
Also this is the only large jar the other ones are shorter and wider.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28665627 - 02/18/24 02:11 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

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Jars have a verm layer and were covered with foil during steaming. I guess I'll see, brf is already on it's way. As for the verm I've seen people using search function that say the verm size doesn't matter. Maybe I'll use coffee grinder next time.




The big verm will work fine. Some people like it more.

The cake does look a little on the wet side. Did the mixture feel really wet before you loaded it?


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28665636 - 02/18/24 02:15 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

It was sorta clumpy but not like paste. I tried squeezing it and no dripping so I probably didn't put the foil on right?
Edit: also the first jars were sorta wet like this at the start but after 2 days they look less wet so I'm hoping that will happen with the 2 I added.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28670772 - 02/22/24 03:00 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

2 jars from the first batch had an iffy verm layer and I decided to throw them in advance and make a proper brf so I don't go entirely empty handed.


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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: Hugdogboar]
    #28670777 - 02/22/24 03:09 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

Wrf works just like white rice works, it's all about getting the rice prepped correctly.
The same would apply when using wrf vs brf, just get the mix right and it's fine.

The first ever mushrooms I grew were done using white rice, many of us used to grind white rice to make flour back in the 90s.

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28670837 - 02/22/24 05:07 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: My quest with white rice flour [Re: CapSlinger] * 1
    #28684614 - 03/03/24 01:07 AM (10 months, 9 days ago)

Just posting an update the wrf+protein+yeast have small germination points as of today. Nothing compared to the brf which was done later and has mycelium 1cm across already.

Edit: it appears both wrfs have contam. I'll throw them out as the mycelium looks weak and I doubt it'll be able to eat it.


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