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Re: first time the proper way [Re: HappinessStan] * 1
    #28660543 - 02/15/24 09:14 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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Sorry but, what part of that photo doesn't seem "too bad"?
That tub is fucked.




Thats why im posting im clueless to what a tub of rice mixed with coco will look like on the bottom after 2days as its my first time. Saying what's wrong with it is much more help than just saying "its fucked".


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28660574 - 02/15/24 09:43 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Fucked means contaminated in Shroomery speech.

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28660583 - 02/15/24 09:46 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

In a few days when your good PE tubs take off you will see what we are talking about.  The difference between what’s a ā€œfucked tubā€ and a ā€œnormal tubā€.

The fucked tub has multiple issues going on and because of those issues it’s really hard to pick one issue to help you correct. It’s bacterial and appears to be growing mold as well. Rice sucks and this happens 75% of the time rice is used as spawn.

Don’t fret, you are on the right track and will be successful soon.

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28660607 - 02/15/24 10:12 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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In a few days when your good PE tubs take off you will see what we are talking about.  The difference between what’s a ā€œfucked tubā€ and a ā€œnormal tubā€.

The fucked tub has multiple issues going on and because of those issues it’s really hard to pick one issue to help you correct. It’s bacterial and appears to be growing mold as well. Rice sucks and this happens 75% of the time rice is used as spawn.

Don’t fret, you are on the right track and will be successful soon.




Well the tubs gone now I couldn't really care about that I expected a failure the first time without the right equipment and only items I had at home already. I'll post a update on both 26L tubs tomorrow for progress day 4. For the "fucked tub" it's been taken away from the area and ill check on it in a few days and see what's taken over it.

Thanks for the reply just hearing you say the other tubs look okay is nice. All I've had so far is "its fucked" and no input about the main focus :grin:


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28660654 - 02/15/24 11:04 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Sometimes the vernacular we use here gets misconstrued and is easy to interpret the wrong way. Typically the answers you get will be more targeted to your question. In this case that particular tub had a lot going on, too much to diagnose properly. When that happens it’s easier for us to just say ā€œit’s fuckedā€ as opposed to trying to diagnose a particular issue. You learned a valuable lesson with that tub. I’m thinking that in the next few days you will be ready to toss it completely because it’s going to start turning colors. Just chock it up as a hands on learning experience.

This hobby really isn’t that hard once you get it figured out. If you haven’t read beefsupremes ā€œhitchhikers guide part 2ā€ or updated guide give it a read. It will do wonders for you. It’s blunt and to the point. Just use the search engine. Also don’t waste your time reading anything that’s more than 5 years old. There are lots of very smart people here that have already figured out what works and doesn’t.

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28660709 - 02/15/24 11:52 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

big ups mate
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Mwj12977 said:
Sometimes the vernacular we use here gets misconstrued and is easy to interpret the wrong way. Typically the answers you get will be more targeted to your question. In this case that particular tub had a lot going on, too much to diagnose properly. When that happens it’s easier for us to just say ā€œit’s fuckedā€ as opposed to trying to diagnose a particular issue. You learned a valuable lesson with that tub. I’m thinking that in the next few days you will be ready to toss it completely because it’s going to start turning colors. Just chock it up as a hands on learning experience.

This hobby really isn’t that hard once you get it figured out. If you haven’t read beefsupremes ā€œhitchhikers guide part 2ā€ or updated guide give it a read. It will do wonders for you. It’s blunt and to the point. Just use the search engine. Also don’t waste your time reading anything that’s more than 5 years old. There are lots of very smart people here that have already figured out what works and doesn’t.




Big ups mate ill give it a read forsure. I'm here to learn if that means by my mistakes so be it. It was purely a experiment to see if i could prep my own spawn without buying a PC etc to save my friend some time in the future.
Just a quickie while Im here, Are the holes on my monotub covered in 2layers of micropore tape enough FAE for now until I see fruits or will I need to fan? I was under the impression not to open the tub during this stage so I assume the FAE through the tape is enough?

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28660769 - 02/15/24 12:51 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

The micropore tape is not something I can give a good answer on because there are different variables involved to make that determination. For instance if you live in a tropical climate and it’s really humid you can get away with some extra holes for FAE. If your house is dry and you have a loose fitting lid you may not need any holes at all to maintain proper surface conditions.  But before you even get to the point of ā€œdialing inā€ your tubs you need to make sure your coir is prepared properly. Not too wet and not too dry. Not too wet or dry, properly compressed (ā€œbeefys tub tekā€) coir is crucial to having consistent results and being able to set it and forget it. Typically when I make tubs I don’t touch them until I’m either ready to harvest 14-21 days later or the fruit is growing into the lid. Enjoy researching and welcome to the borg!

I realized after my previous comment that the ā€œhitchhikers guideā€ is the first thread in the cultivation forum.

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28660850 - 02/15/24 01:57 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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The micropore tape is not something I can give a good answer on because there are different variables involved to make that determination. For instance if you live in a tropical climate and it’s really humid you can get away with some extra holes for FAE. If your house is dry and you have a loose fitting lid you may not need any holes at all to maintain proper surface conditions.  But before you even get to the point of ā€œdialing inā€ your tubs you need to make sure your coir is prepared properly. Not too wet and not too dry. Not too wet or dry, properly compressed (ā€œbeefys tub tekā€) coir is crucial to having consistent results and being able to set it and forget it. Typically when I make tubs I don’t touch them until I’m either ready to harvest 14-21 days later or the fruit is growing into the lid. Enjoy researching and welcome to the borg!

I realized after my previous comment that the ā€œhitchhikers guideā€ is the first thread in the cultivation forum.




For humidity the room is 50-55% and temp 21-22c. I made the cococoir using tubtek and the field capacity was a few drips when really squeezed, just enough to hold its shape with a firm squeeze but easily broken up. 1x 650g cococoir brick (broken up before hand abit). 2 litres of sterile vermiculite and 4litre of boiling water mixed right away with a clean tool then closed up and wrapped in a towel to hold in heat. 15hours later once cooled I spawned right away.


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber] * 2
    #28660856 - 02/15/24 02:03 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Sounds like you got the coir down. With the relative humidity in your house I would keep the tub tight for now and dial it in as necessary. Again, your PE tubs looked good so whatever you’re doing there seems to be correct. My basic rule of thumb is; If the top layer of coir starts to look more brown than black you need to restrict air flow a bit. If it is soggy let it breathe a bit. This is all part of the dialing in process.

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28660859 - 02/15/24 02:10 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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Sounds like you got the coir down. With the relative humidity in your house I would keep the tub tight for now and dial it in as necessary. Again, your PE tubs looked good so whatever you’re doing there seems to be correct. My basic rule of thumb is; If the top layer of coir starts to look more brown than black you need to restrict air flow a bit. If it is soggy let it breathe a bit. This is all part of the dialing in process.





Thanks for the fast reply :thumbup: Just to correct you the tub whats got alot of growth on the casing is B+, The PE tub showed its first few spots of white on the casing this morning so hopefully a picture worth showing tomorrow. I dont want to mess with them too much so ill leave them be for the night and check tomorrow how the sub looks with 2layers of micropore tape on all holes and adjust like you say based on how the sub looks in colour/moisture

Take it easy. Hopefully more good news to follow with pictures in the morning for now i'm signing off

:mushroom2:


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28661566 - 02/16/24 03:36 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Both tubs looking good moisture seems fine. Ill get some pictures later on this evening :mushroom2:


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28661576 - 02/16/24 04:04 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

I’ve got a few tubs that are just about as far along s yours. I’ll send you some pics today as a comparison. Can’t right now or my wife just might stab me in the eye for waking her up at 6am on her day off! šŸ˜‚

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28661590 - 02/16/24 04:25 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

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I’ve got a few tubs that are just about as far along s yours. I’ll send you some pics today as a comparison. Can’t right now or my wife just might stab me in the eye for waking her up at 6am on her day off! šŸ˜‚




Thanks mate that would be nice to see. Yeah don't be waking the wife that's only got 1 outcome and its not good :grin:

Today is day 5 for mine now around 120hours ago I spawned them. The tub doing best (B+) seems to have slowed down abit and I'm a tad worried about a uncolonized area which seems abit to perfect to be random if that makes sense haha. Like I say I'm new to this so it could be a normal thing but it seems I have a area about 5cm x 10cm in the middle what's not colonized but all around it is.


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber] * 3
    #28661653 - 02/16/24 06:31 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

5 day old PE7, heavily compressed sub with a 1ā€ compressed top layer
This is a picture of the bottom of the tub. You can see everything spreading through the substrate.
Both of these trays are 12 days old and starting to pin
this has been fruiting for about a week. All pics are PE7

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28661660 - 02/16/24 06:38 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

What’s weird is all of these tubs came from the same spawn. Other than the size of the tubs everything is the same except I’m getting blobs in my 15qt tubs. I didn’t get any in my 7qt or in a 66qt I did last week. I’ve read where people say it’s genetics but in this case I suspect it’s my air flow in the 15qt tubs. I’m about to drill a few holes in those 5day old tubs and see if that prevents the blobs.

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    #28661681 - 02/16/24 06:51 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Well now thats something I need in my life haha! I have liners in my tub so taking a picture of the bottom is pointless but I can see in areas the mycelium spreading like yours. Today starts the 5th day for my tubs since spawning. Also the small tub which I isolated hasn't show any funky colours yet and it has a small patch of mycelium forming on the casing layer but its staying away from the main 26L tubs.

First picture is B+ which is doing the best



This is PE slowly starting to show spots spread about.



Thanks once again for your input feel free to post your progress on here if you don't have a thread going already its handy to have something to compare too. :mushroom2:


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: TheDibber]
    #28661703 - 02/16/24 07:04 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Looking at my pictures I think the issue I'm having is there's most likely more grains around the edges than in the middle. Next time ill make sure to mix better. As it was my first time I was panicking and just wanted to get the lids on ASAP.


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28661960 - 02/16/24 10:15 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

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What’s weird is all of these tubs came from the same spawn. Other than the size of the tubs everything is the same except I’m getting blobs in my 15qt tubs. I didn’t get any in my 7qt or in a 66qt I did last week. I’ve read where people say it’s genetics but in this case I suspect it’s my air flow in the 15qt tubs. I’m about to drill a few holes in those 5day old tubs and see if that prevents the blobs.





I ended up covering 4 holes on each tub for now and ill adjust further into the grow. I think I went overkill on the holes I should of drilled smaller or less.


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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Mwj12977]
    #28662059 - 02/16/24 11:17 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

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this has been fruiting for about a week. All pics are PE7




Nice tub dude :rockon:

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Re: first time the proper way [Re: Womble]
    #28662319 - 02/16/24 02:04 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Thanks bro!

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