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OfflineMomhunterAtaturk
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Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs * 1
    #28659502 - 02/14/24 11:19 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I really like the prince and 48 laws of power, I know they are everyones favorite books to hate on but i think they are useful. Not only for evil. I think there are two sides to each coin and to not acknowledge the other and to speak with 100% confidence is an easy way to get something wrong. I think it's important to be moral in the world not only for peace of mind but for the sake of society, that doesnt mean everyone adheres by the same rules. At that point you would be a sheep at the will of wolves. I think reading on how to be a bad/powerful person while choosing to be good is the most impactful thing one can do. it brings you virtue and character while also giving you the knowledge to spot a bad/manipulative person. I've always been attraacted to things that i was told were bad and i think books that teach you how to be bad are not bad in of themselves. I think also if it exists out in the world it would make sense to read it so that you could best prepare against it, instead of being a sheep you could be a wolf in sheep's clothing, that is ready to protect themselves when needed and when only necessary.

What are some of yall's favorite unpopular books / unpopular meditations on life!?

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: MomhunterAtaturk]
    #28659587 - 02/14/24 12:30 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I read a book by a Chinese author that was banned in China; The Dark Road by Ma Jian depicting appetites most people would sqeamously reject.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28659630 - 02/14/24 01:26 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I consider wasting my time to be a waste of time if I am not at the same time having fun,
so I am not attracted to books that are not entertaining
(like star trek or a Liu Cixin novel, or even Jack Reacher)
to waste my time with enjoyably, while beliefs are less attractive to me than biology or science,
so I will grab a picture book or science book before one about beliefs.


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28659671 - 02/14/24 02:07 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

The 'Bad Science' sleuth could turn up a few examples in your collection nevertheless

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28659678 - 02/14/24 02:20 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

You think RGV will find this fiction enjoyable enough to respond?

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28659679 - 02/14/24 02:22 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I’ve recently been having fun with some that grab a bit of both.
….and then some.

The book pictured in the image below on the rightmost side speaks for itself.


¡¡¡….however…!!!

^  tucked into the preface of the book to the leftmost side of the image above,
is a bit of ink that can lead the reader to greeting the following sweetness:
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https://www.onezoom.org/life.html


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28660228 - 02/14/24 11:41 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
The 'Bad Science' sleuth could turn up a few examples in your collection nevertheless




to waste my time, I like like star trek or a Liu Cixin novel, or even Jack Reacher, or just instagram.

I regard the blind ass's book about elements and photos of materials as very interesting table top or leave around for the kids to peruse (we need more kid perusable science books). Maybe Dawkins is ok? have not read his work as I am well informed about genetics and evolution, and not actively developing theories on that.


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: MomhunterAtaturk]
    #28661803 - 02/16/24 08:35 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

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MomhunterAtaturk said:

I really like the prince and 48 laws of power, I know they are everyone's favorite books to hate on but i think they are useful.




It's weird how people demonize Robert Greene!

A couple are "The Biology of Desire: Why Addiction Is Not a Disease" by Marc Lewis PhD . . . and Gabor Maté's books that challenge the so called "science" about the nature of ADHD and anxiety.  Challenging the beliefs that these experiences are brain diseases reflecting biological abnormalities and neurological malfunctioning.

These days people cling to an "ADHD diagnosis" like it's a religion.

Unwilling to consider any other possibilities.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28663230 - 02/16/24 10:37 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

i'm listening to the audio version of david graeber's debt: the first 5000 years. it is a deep dive into the philosophy of debt and a thorough debunking of mainstream economics. so far it's very interesting.

david graeber also co-authored the dawn of everything: a new history of humanity, another excellent alternative analysis.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28663297 - 02/17/24 01:44 AM (4 months, 6 days ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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MomhunterAtaturk said:

I really like the prince and 48 laws of power, I know they are everyone's favorite books to hate on but i think they are useful.




It's weird how people demonize Robert Greene!

A couple are "The Biology of Desire: Why Addiction Is Not a Disease" by Marc Lewis PhD . . . and Gabor Maté's books that challenge the so called "science" about the nature of ADHD and anxiety.  Challenging the beliefs that these experiences are brain diseases reflecting biological abnormalities and neurological malfunctioning.

These days people cling to an "ADHD diagnosis" like it's a religion.

Unwilling to consider any other possibilities.



of course, but It is good that at least some people can legally get speed, through the tunnels of misconceived medical professionalism


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28670229 - 02/21/24 07:04 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I'm afraid ADHD is a deeper problem than Gabor Mate even points out.

I'm not going do it all again. All I'll say is constant treatments, remedies, prophylactics... That is what has led us to this point. People, I don't think, are seriously ready to actually come to terms with how their social psychology was really transformed against their best interests. People hear about a dark age and a fall of the west, but they have yet to seriously come to grips with what exactly happened socially. Only as of yet, now, with all the productions of modern science and technology, which is the sole product of time (an amount that most people cannot fathom, because they don't know the history), are people becoming aware of their deep social problem: it was inaccessible to consciousness precisely because of the living conditions that technology and science has mitigated and inoculated itself against. It now must apply the same method to exactly how it was fraudulently and in error changed as a result of disaster. People must now look back to see exactly what has happened to them historically, and only then can they truly understand their place in their own lives, even in their own words. The type of society people live in is not designed to have a population so aware of so many things and so many other people. The problem is that seeking to accommodate this information is at odds with actually living in the system history has produced, originally for people whom truly did very little deep thinking.


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atissimæ profundæque
                              veritates amandæ sunt,
                              sic ideo necesse est:
                              res maxima amanda est.
                      potus sitis bene scimus
                cum nos id adeo explet,               
              cum alto hic movet imus:
                res maxima omnis amor.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28670259 - 02/21/24 07:20 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Religion was the beginning of the series of social prophylactics. What it does is nullify the human spirit. It's like giving the ruling class a tabula rasa population. What is colloquially coined 'religion' today, often in a mocking tone, is the result of a collapse of civilization. The previous religion had similar qualities of social control; however, civilization was still intact, and so the spirituality was not, indeed, a militarized form of control. It was integrated into the very language people used much like how idioms are used today, but don't have any real poetic or fantastic value. The sky at dusk was called vesper and that is also the name for a god, namely of the night sky Venus. Spiritualized stories with philosophical meaning were ingrained into people's thoughts, and with elements that express humanity at its furthest reaches and most distant nooks and crannies. The religion after the fall sought to limit all of these elements and settle for a white washed, colorless version, too without the colorful statues that are all now known as only ever being white. Criticizing religion previously would be criticizing fanatics who don't actually understand. Today, criticizing religion is because it is pure insanity. The spirituality of Lucretius, and many other educated people all throughout Greece and Rome, was a scientific spirituality, and one interested in the expansion of consciousness, not closing consciousness off. That is its antithesis; exactly what is only understood with the letters together forming RELIGION today. People cannot fathom religion actually taking into account the depth of their lives, because the only religion anyone knows is for the sake of doing the opposite!


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I the music, not the bling
atissimæ profundæque
                              veritates amandæ sunt,
                              sic ideo necesse est:
                              res maxima amanda est.
                      potus sitis bene scimus
                cum nos id adeo explet,               
              cum alto hic movet imus:
                res maxima omnis amor.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28670415 - 02/21/24 08:36 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I think that derives from Spectacle.
and even cave painting was a spectacle.
chanting together was a spectacle.

doing things that are weird and fun are spectacle the first time.
repeating them is less amazing and starts being tradition or religious.

for many it is the same with psychedelics,

I like to find the spectacle in normal things too.


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28670481 - 02/21/24 09:17 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Curated spectacles even?

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28670627 - 02/21/24 11:20 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

yes, museums and art galleries!!!
my fave holy shrines!


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28671895 - 02/22/24 08:12 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Fake alien bodies?
Just like ancient Greek fake sea people/ mermaids, which they'd display to the public to control them.


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I the music, not the bling
atissimæ profundæque
                              veritates amandæ sunt,
                              sic ideo necesse est:
                              res maxima amanda est.
                      potus sitis bene scimus
                cum nos id adeo explet,               
              cum alto hic movet imus:
                res maxima omnis amor.

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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28672234 - 02/23/24 02:52 AM (4 months, 21 hours ago)

not in my museums


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Re: Favorite Unpopular Books to Read / Meditations on unpopular beliefs [Re: MomhunterAtaturk]
    #28672728 - 02/23/24 11:41 AM (4 months, 12 hours ago)



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