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niall_b73
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#28655450 - 02/11/24 12:23 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Hi all, I have just done a few jars of liquid culture using the following technique:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5238137
Hopefully all has went well anyway I'm left with one question the whole in the lid of my jar would I be able to pot a synthetic sterile mesh filter paper sticker over the whole I would that be trouble in case it got wet. If not what is the best option to do with the whole apart from leaving foil over it

Many thanks, niall_b73
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Spores shot into honey water in open air....i predict 100% failure. LC does not need ge, plug the hole with rtv and start over with a tek that's only 5 or 6 years old (or newer).
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niall_b73
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normalperson said: Spores shot into honey water in open air....i predict 100% failure. LC does not need ge, plug the hole with rtv and start over with a tek that's only 5 or 6 years old (or newer).
I used a sab

I also done this Tek many years ago without a sab and it worked 100%. No contams and I grew from the culture made. I actually think I done a post on it, I will see if I did in my history.
Anyway thanks for your input
niall_b73
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niall_b73 said:
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normalperson said: Spores shot into honey water in open air....i predict 100% failure. LC does not need ge, plug the hole with rtv and start over with a tek that's only 5 or 6 years old (or newer).
I used a sab

I also done this Tek many years ago without a sab and it worked 100%. No contams and I grew from the culture made. I actually think I done a post on it, I will see if I did in my history.
Anyway thanks for your input
niall_b73
Deviating from that 18-year-old tek was a smart move, keep us updated with pics, please.
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Still spores to lc is a bad idea, regardless if you use a SAB or not.
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niall_b73 said: Hi all, I have just done a few jars of liquid culture using the following technique:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5238137
Hopefully all has went well anyway I'm left with one question the whole in the lid of my jar would I be able to pot a synthetic sterile mesh filter paper sticker over the whole I would that be trouble in case it got wet. If not what is the best option to do with the whole apart from leaving foil over it

Many thanks, niall_b73
You should probably stop following 18 year old teks.
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HappinessStan said:
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niall_b73 said: Hi all, I have just done a few jars of liquid culture using the following technique:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5238137
Hopefully all has went well anyway I'm left with one question the whole in the lid of my jar would I be able to pot a synthetic sterile mesh filter paper sticker over the whole I would that be trouble in case it got wet. If not what is the best option to do with the whole apart from leaving foil over it

Many thanks, niall_b73
You should probably stop following 18 year old teks.
Probably but we will see. If it worked then why would it not work now ?
niall_b73
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Why?
I quote a sentence from this tek:
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This method is not technically completely sterile, but if you have a clean Spore print/spore syringe, and follow the steps exactly, you should have no problem.
Emphasis mine.
Problem is that there is no such a thing as clean spores. They're inherently dirty.
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Re: liquid culture [Re: Yahra]
#28655772 - 02/11/24 04:43 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Why?
I quote a sentence from this tek:
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This method is not technically completely sterile, but if you have a clean Spore print/spore syringe, and follow the steps exactly, you should have no problem.
Emphasis mine.
Problem is that there is no such a thing as clean spores. They're inherently dirty.
Granted, that said and like I said before I have done this before many years ago and had no problem it worked fine.
I have been away from this for some time and only just getting back at it obviously I have some homework to do to catch up.
Still will be curious to see how this pans out tho
niall_b73
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ItsLinkNotZelda
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Next time I would use high temp silicon on the hole before sterilizing your jar, to make a self healing injection port.
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As others have said when inoculating LC you (must) use a clean culture and not spores.
Can't blame you if spores have worked before because that eliminates the need for knowing how to use agar. We are just urging you to use methods that are more effective.
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normalperson said: LC does not need ge
Since when does it not need any GE? Not saying youโre incorrect but can you please link a Tek or evidence to back this up? Iโve recently moved from modified jars to unmodified media bottles but have been only filling them halfway for GE per BabaYaga
-------------------- ABCD stands for Always Be Collecting Data
โI don't know anything about anything, but I know enough about everything to know that you don't know what the fuck you're talking aboutโ
Edited by MushroomMommy (02/11/24 10:16 PM)
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Re: liquid culture [Re: niall_b73] 1
#28656260 - 02/11/24 11:15 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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niall_b73 said: If it worked then why would it not work now ?
If something has a 10% chance of working and you land into that 10% first and second tries, you're going to hate your life when everything fails all of a sudden on your third/fourth/fifth
When aside from that we have time-proven techniques that allow for 99% success rates for not much more effort
You can shoot spores into LC if that's all you care for, we're just trying to make you infinitely more efficient, ultimately it's your call
We moved from those techniques for a reason
Edited by MrJong (02/11/24 11:25 PM)
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Re: liquid culture [Re: MrJong]
#28656764 - 02/12/24 12:48 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Ok, so all that said what is the best method for making liquid culture from spores then.
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#28656766 - 02/12/24 12:49 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Look into agar. Agar is used to cleanup spores.
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Re: liquid culture [Re: Yahra]
#28656793 - 02/12/24 01:04 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Look into agar. Agar is used to cleanup spores.
Any chance you could point me in the right direction, I have been browsing but can't find a proper instruction for it
Thanks niall_b73
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I don't do LC since i am a noob.
The first thread on LC which uses agar i could find is this one:
Blenderless Liquid Inoculate
Not sure if there are better teks.
You might want to look into SSLC as well, i heard that's the hottest shit nowadays.
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niall_b73 said: Ok, so all that said what is the best method for making liquid culture from spores then.
niall_b73
You should never make LC from spores. You make LC from clean agar cultures.
All the links you really need are in the Hitchhikers guide thread but here is a good Agar thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023
Once you have CLEAN cultures on agar you can use This link to make your LC
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24740168
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MushroomMommy said:
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normalperson said: LC does not need ge
Since when does it not need any GE? Not saying youโre incorrect but can you please link a Tek or evidence to back this up? Iโve recently moved from modified jars to unmodified media bottles but have been only filling them halfway for GE per BabaYaga
i should have been clearer. LC lids do not need a hole for GE nor do they need to be loosened. With only a little headroom, an unmodified lid tightened down, will keep the LC viable for months or years. a loosened lid or a GE hole will allow the LC to lose moisture over time.
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