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stone14
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Manure pasteurisation, who's successful?
#28654954 - 02/11/24 02:50 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Looking for a successful method to prepare manure without tricaderma. So far I've not found a method that has been successful without tric still developing.
I want to try manure based substrate for natalensis and panaeolus.
Of there is no successful method for composted manure, I suspect commercial packaged pelet manure will be the product to use?
I do want to keep costs down where possible. But also looking for convenience, so composted manure may be too much of a hassle if pelet manure is easier to use. I just want to try it to compare to none manure myself.
Edited by stone14 (02/11/24 02:52 AM)
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stagger



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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: stone14]
#28654980 - 02/11/24 04:17 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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What is your process now?
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RoscoeReturns
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: stagger]
#28655002 - 02/11/24 05:18 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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I’m not a fan of pasteurizing large batches of substrate. Baby sitting a water bath is not my idea of a fun afternoon. For pans I mix manure, straw, coir and toss it in bags. Bags get sterilized in the PC and inoculated with grain spawn in front of my FFU. Could be done in an SAB, but would be a little more difficult. Once the bag is fully colonized I break it up and pour it into trays. Works well.
I hope someone with more experience pasteurizing will get you an answer, but I thought I would give you an alternative if you wanted to try something. Also you can pasteurize small volumes in your dehydrator. There is a link in my sig. if you wanted to try a small grow you could probably do enough for some cakes or a shoebox.
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: stone14]
#28655005 - 02/11/24 05:23 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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stone14 said: Looking for a successful method to prepare manure without tricaderma. So far I've not found a method that has been successful without tric still developing.
I want to try manure based substrate for natalensis and panaeolus.
Of there is no successful method for composted manure, I suspect commercial packaged pelet manure will be the product to use?
I do want to keep costs down where possible. But also looking for convenience, so composted manure may be too much of a hassle if pelet manure is easier to use. I just want to try it to compare to none manure myself.
Manure totally unneeded for Nats.
For Pans Many use Black Cow composted manure at ratio of 50/50 with coir.
As for pasteurizing I use my dehydrator to pasteurize mine but I don't do large quantities. Toss the manure in a baggie just under field capacity and 4 hours at 160 in the dehydrator.
As for Trich if you keep getting it I would look to your spawn rather than your pasteurization.
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AspectOfTheCreator
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: RockinRobot]
#28655033 - 02/11/24 06:17 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Franks proper pasteurization. Never had a problem.
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stone14
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28656362 - 02/12/24 04:29 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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RoscoeReturns said: I’m not a fan of pasteurizing large batches of substrate. Baby sitting a water bath is not my idea of a fun afternoon. For pans I mix manure, straw, coir and toss it in bags. Bags get sterilized in the PC and inoculated with grain spawn in front of my FFU. Could be done in an SAB, but would be a little more difficult. Once the bag is fully colonized I break it up and pour it into trays. Works well.
This sounds the most convenient way tbh. Thanks.
How long do you hit it at 15psi?
Edited by stone14 (02/12/24 04:29 AM)
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RoscoeReturns
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: stone14]
#28656366 - 02/12/24 04:41 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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stone14 said:
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RoscoeReturns said: I’m not a fan of pasteurizing large batches of substrate. Baby sitting a water bath is not my idea of a fun afternoon. For pans I mix manure, straw, coir and toss it in bags. Bags get sterilized in the PC and inoculated with grain spawn in front of my FFU. Could be done in an SAB, but would be a little more difficult. Once the bag is fully colonized I break it up and pour it into trays. Works well.
This sounds the most convenient way tbh. Thanks.
How long do you hit it at 15psi?
For substrate bags I run them for three hours.
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28656433 - 02/12/24 06:54 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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It only needs to be 140 or so degrees. I follow the Gordo tek and never had a problem. I put the sub in a bag and put a temp. probe in the bag and just keep the lid cracked on my PC so it wont make pressure. turn the burner off when it reaches 140 and then let it cool in the pot over night.
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: Tucky]
#28656501 - 02/12/24 09:13 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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<^ Tucky, I swear I've been to that lake... Marble Mountains, Trinity Alps?
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Tucky
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Re: Manure pasteurisation, who's successful? [Re: Generic]
#28657999 - 02/13/24 07:02 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Generic said: <^ Tucky, I swear I've been to that lake... Marble Mountains, Trinity Alps?
I have heard good things about the trinity alps but this is Alice Lake in Idaho.
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