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APE all in one bag question.
    #28653496 - 02/09/24 10:26 PM (11 months, 1 day ago)

I've heard APE's are slow so rather than tie up a tub I figured I'd give an all in one bag a shot.  This is my 1st all in one as well as first attempt cultivating apes, and I'm not sure if they're just really slow or dead.

Timeline:

11/13 - Inoculated bag with LC
11/19 - First signs of myc growth
Break & shake in here somewhere
12/20 - fully colonized block, rubber band around it, cut a slit across the bag for FAE.  noticed a bluish green spot.  Swapped with sterile qtip, nothing came off, assumed bruising.
1/11 - bag seems to have moisture but bruising continues to spread.  Qtips staying clean, still assuming bruising, but no pinning or signs of growth.  Figured humidity and temp might be low, so I pulled it out of the bag and moved it to my tent where I grow culinary & medicinal shrooms. 
2/1 - still no pins, still very bruised and feeling very light.  Cut a few slits with a sterile blade, soaked in water for almost 24 hours, then back in the tent.
2/9 - still nothing.  The slits I cut closed up, so the myc seems to still be growing, but still seeing a lot of bruising, though the bruising isn't spreading anymore.

Are APEs really just this slow, or is this block just aborting on me?



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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: mushroomman2276]
    #28653568 - 02/09/24 11:47 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

Was the LC made from multispore?

I never had luck with APE until I used a culture that pinned on agar and I initially tried two different syringes from two different vendors. Until I took the time with the agar i was in the same boat you are.


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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28653574 - 02/09/24 11:51 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

No.

The LC came from a well known online vendor.

I'm new the this forum, not sure if naming vendors is frowned upon.

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: mushroomman2276]
    #28653582 - 02/10/24 12:03 AM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

I started out doing grow in a bags. APE was the only one that never worked. I too, got a syringe from a well known online vendor. Probably the same one. Rhymes with Smnokulate the Schworld. I’ve ordered a lot of stuff from them and that was the only one that didn’t work. I just got another one from them the other day with a lot more syringes. I’m going to inoculate grain bags and spawn to tubs. For the APE, I’m going to put a little bit onto some agar plates and inject the rest. See how that goes.

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: HazMatt]
    #28653587 - 02/10/24 12:14 AM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

Just looked at the picture again. That block is really dry. I'd give it a dunk and then look into proper surface conditions to make sure it's not drying out again.


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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: HazMatt]
    #28653805 - 02/10/24 07:55 AM (11 months, 14 hours ago)

I’m doing pe7 and having the exact opposite problem. I was waiting to do some g2g with this bag and my rye got delayed a few days. Now I’m stuck with 4 bags that have hundreds of pins. I suggest the isolated pe7 next time.

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28653951 - 02/10/24 09:48 AM (11 months, 12 hours ago)

Quote:

elasticaltiger said:
Just looked at the picture again. That block is really dry. I'd give it a dunk and then look into proper surface conditions to make sure it's not drying out again.




Dunked it about a week ago and my tents not perfect but hangs around 90% humidity.

Any other options?

I've been debating breaking it up, mixing with some coir at field capacity and moving it to a shoe box.

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: mushroomman2276]
    #28654675 - 02/10/24 08:28 PM (11 months, 2 hours ago)

Try putting it in a water tub, cake on a rack in a tub with an inch or two of water in the bottom.

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28655249 - 02/11/24 10:12 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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Bajazly said:
Try putting it in a water tub, cake on a rack in a tub with an inch or two of water in the bottom.




So the cake physically in the water, or just above the water line?

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: mushroomman2276]
    #28656918 - 02/12/24 02:23 PM (10 months, 29 days ago)

I have APEs in tubs and in the same boat. Been fully colonized for 3 weeks, not a pin in sight!

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Re: APE all in one bag question. [Re: ShroomsLoveU]
    #28657318 - 02/12/24 07:08 PM (10 months, 29 days ago)

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ShroomsLoveU said:
I have APEs in tubs and in the same boat. Been fully colonized for 3 weeks, not a pin in sight!




You're hopefully still in the waiting game.

8 more days and it'll be 3 months since this was fully colonized.

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