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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] * 2
    #28654015 - 02/10/24 10:37 AM (11 months, 11 hours ago)

parafilm is overpriced and difficult to use, try cling wrap or(my favorite) grafting tape.

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Re: B positive [Re: normalperson]
    #28654117 - 02/10/24 12:15 PM (11 months, 10 hours ago)

Yeah I saw them fellas on YouTube using that grafting tape on trees and making mention of wrapping plates. Now when you do the Glad wrap do you wrap the whole plate like you're wrapping a sandwich or do you just cut it down to where you're wrapping the edge of the plate. And thank you for that encouragement because to be honest with you we're all leaning towards glad wrap around here. I've also read go with the Glad wrap name brand that it has the best manufacturing and is allows the plate to breathe without allowing contamination to pass through, excellent response much appreciated.

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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] * 1
    #28654301 - 02/10/24 03:04 PM (11 months, 7 hours ago)

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Funfarm said:
Yeah I saw them fellas on YouTube using that grafting tape on trees and making mention of wrapping plates. Now when you do the Glad wrap do you wrap the whole plate like you're wrapping a sandwich or do you just cut it down to where you're wrapping the edge of the plate. And thank you for that encouragement because to be honest with you we're all leaning towards glad wrap around here. I've also read go with the Glad wrap name brand that it has the best manufacturing and is allows the plate to breathe without allowing contamination to pass through, excellent response much appreciated.



Buy a roll of clingwrap at the market, and cut into usable size rolls, It is only necessary to wrap the outside edge to keep nasty guys out. I use a PVC cutter to cut mine, some use razor knives, whatever is easiest for you to work with.
If you do decide to join team clingwrap make sure you wear the badge of honor so we know your a boss team clingwrap member! :rockon:


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Re: B positive [Re: meta_mmxxii] * 1
    #28654404 - 02/10/24 04:07 PM (11 months, 6 hours ago)

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Bags are notorious for getting pinholes when used for grain, the grain can actually pop through the bag and cause a tiny pinhole that you can't see with the naked eye and will allow contaminations in, but appear to be sealed.




Wut?  Bags are the typical approach for all mushroom growers that aren't growing cubensis.  I've never heard of, or experienced grain poking holes in a bag.  If your grain is properly hydrated, it's too soft to poke a hole in a PVC bag. Even if you're doing a no-prep run, there isn't a lot of force against the bag to make this happen. 

The failures I've had with bags have been due to a poor seal, or bad filters from a bad vendor.  When they work, they are more efficient than jars, and take less room.  I make three jars worth of grain per bag (a little over 2 full quarts), and can run 6 bags per PC run, so 18 jars worth per run.  You need a good sealer and good bags.

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Re: B positive [Re: OldManRiver]
    #28654610 - 02/10/24 07:25 PM (11 months, 2 hours ago)

I said I was going to pitch the bag in the dumpster but I'm still holding it. It's taped up in a brown paper bag, in a spare bathroom, underneath the sink, in the vanity. I just looked at it, there's some spots of mysilly coming out of the berries and some spots of slimy Orange berries. I'm thinking it's not coming back, but I'll give it a chance, I mean why tub it anyways.
  I just peeled on the edges of the fae and injection port patches. I did look over the bag surface, all looks good, perhaps the actual fae micron? Dunno
I applied for the cling wrap plate seam sealers badge and I'm waiting for it to come in the mail. :smile:  I appreciate the lead on how to cut the wrap. The PVC cutter sounds the easiest to use as I know they kinda clamp and hold the tube not allowing it to roll when cutting, so that's what I'm going get. This shroom farming sure leaves us with some odds and ends doesn't it?
Maybe someone can give me a lead on what's the best item to use to look at plates magnified. I was thinking a simple magnifying glass but wasn't sure what other folks out there are using to look at Agar with especially if one has a skull full of old eyeballs.
 
Edit: I think Im going to try a 10x magnifying glass from the Wally world of wonders. It's like 8 bucks and in stock, maybe a good start?

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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
    #28655828 - 02/11/24 05:35 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

Uhhh gross, put the 10x mag glass on the bag with a led. The bag is in the trash. Thread is dead, my fault.

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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] * 1
    #28656303 - 02/12/24 01:24 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

Im just curious why you opened the 5lb bag and threw in the 1lb bag? In the open air? Get a folding table and a SAB atleast, and do this in a closed room and lock the door if you have to, but with that being said... dont open the sterile bags lol

I would be scared to do that in a SAB or even a flow hood because once its sterile I dont like to open it until its colonized.

IMO i think the bag would have been fine, as long as the needle was still sterile from the package when you inoculated it.

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Re: B positive [Re: johney89]
    #28656350 - 02/12/24 03:56 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

Yes thank you, I agree 100%, your absolutely right. Never opening a bag again. Sab work is hard for me physically due to limitations. However, I do think a larger tub in the 100+ quart range would accommodate a sealer and larger bag of rye.

Edit: Forgot to answer your question, the answer is stupidity to put it bluntly. I was attempting to go from a 5 pound rye to 15 pounds sub mix ratio, increasing over a 6 pound rye to 20 pounds sub mix in the attempt to achieve a 5" tall cake in a 66qt tub. It was foolish and by doing so I killed a perfectly good sterile bag of colonizing rye and culture specimen. I have done g2g xfer several times with success but this was the first bout with wet orange peel. Furthermore I found a 5" cake is not so imperative like I thought it was. I currently have a a slopping uneven cake that gets as thin as a couple inches on one corner and yet it was the best yielding field of the whole cake, go figure. This whole search for the golden goose led me to nothing but bacteria, capital loss, time lost, and frustration.

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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
    #28664022 - 02/17/24 02:20 PM (10 months, 24 days ago)

I was torn last week between ordering another B+ barrel or a PE one. I went PE to see if I can capture a fat bratwurst that I missed on first take of a harvest. However, I am excited to share that when I return from a short trip next week I am considering a B+ barrel for some more bathroom inoculation. Im not going to believe this thread failed with toilet bowl work, I'm confident it was issues related to moisture content in a smaller than norm bag.

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