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Lsd difference in visuals?
#28653448 - 02/09/24 08:56 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Hello, so to be honest I have taken lsd for over 300 time in past 6 years and i noticed that some of them had more body load and some of them less, also that some had like more pixel visuals, some of them had fractal visuals, some of them had everything is alive visuals etc.. Although 80-85% of acid I have was street acid so i really never know what type of lsd was it(i know lsd is lsd but as far as i know there are few families of lsd which as far as i know give some different effects) and in those 15-20% I have ordered it from ---------. One time i had some mickymouse 100ug which was needlepoint, second time i ordered was 250ug(advertised) but they were acctually arround 150 but i ordered because it was the cheapest at the time(I dont know which "type" it was), third time I have ------- "Hoffman meets ET" 275ug(which i would say by doing my research was white fluff, and fourth time I have ------ some 300ug blotters (which I would say it was needlepoint).
Soo Mickymouse was to be honest goos trip with 200ug but almost 0 visuals Those cheap ones on 450ug were a lot of different visuals during the trip but at the end(comedown) everything was alive visuals (if I need to guess it was white fluff) Hoffman meets ET on 825 (I have taken tab every 1 hour) i have had those everything is alive visuals (also if i need to guess they were white fluff) On 300ug blotters which when I tested I took 150ug to see how strong they are since before ordering i mostly took half tab/tab(250ug) and after 30min i saw colorful net in the air and my first words were "this is the best acid I have ever taken", but when i took 1050ug(and 2.5tab through the day)soo 1800ug even though it wad the best acid I have ever taken i have had almost none visuals..
I know difference between white fluff(95-98%) and needlepoint(99+%) but is there any real difference between them(like in bodyload, headspace(I know set and settings play the role but as someone who had tried alot of different lsd blotters I would say it's not the only thing.. There is some difference in acid even though it's the same chemical), and the most important thing in visuals? I have read that on needlepoint you get geometrical/fractal visuals and i have also read that there is less visuals(which is strange because it is purest form of lsd) And I have read that on white fluff you get more like melting visuals and that is more visual than needlepoint(I guess that everything is alive visuals are from white fluff)
Anyway I need help... Since I started smoking weed I was interested in visuals and I like to enjoy in them more then almost anything and visuals that I most enjoy and admire(someone who tripped alot will literally understand the feeling that I am trying to explain) are that alive visuals, I was wondering if anyone who tried to investigate difference between white fluuf and needlepoint can tell me acctuall difference between needlepoint and white fluff since I was just tripping and never acctually went to explore differences, what are acctuall differences between those two types of crystals (and don't tell me that it is molecule structure)... I mean bodyload, headspace, visuals.. And if someone knows is it needlepoint(atleast from my experience there was no visuals as far as I can remember because I know that mickyies were needlepoint and I compared feeling and visuals with those 300ug) that it gives alive visuals or white fluff? Because I have not tripped for about one and half or even more years and i would like to experience something that I would enjoy in visual meaning and not have experience where I will take lets say tab or two and for most of the trip wanting visuals that I want and I can't get.. I know I should just experience trip and be like wave and allow it to go on its own course but I have passed dark night of the soul, healed my emotional traumas, have more than 1000h of meditation, did alot of introspection in past 5 years so basicly I don't need trip to work on myself but to enjoy it like I have never enjoyed before.. And most of all enjoy in visuals(if possible those alive ones because they are something that makes my mind experience orgasm) So If anyone can help me about their visual experiences with white fluff or needlepoint i would be really grateful Thank you ❤️
Edited by LogicaL Chaos (02/18/24 11:40 PM)
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28653469 - 02/09/24 09:48 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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WoW!
Of all that in the past, sure, have some perspective to this doses.
I always tripped on idea of a Self Cosmic Calendar. This human body one complex brain that has so many variants in reception of energy. To consume LSD and think the visuals going to be because of certain acid is very narrowing to the LSD trip.
I’ve eaten acid and fallen asleep into day dreams of living a life that is all a dream as awake from the acid trip. Same acid would dose and stay awake to watch the houseplants be of faces, see black and white strobe beings present. Now, that same beings seen years later to completely different acid.
I’m not one to bid that this crystal gives more a body load and this one gives more visual. I’ve eaten my share of different crystals. You can work with whatever crystal you have and get into so many matters of perspective where could be stuck with minor tryptamine body buzz or you can have experiences in the spirit realm.
I have seen, it was a ten pack, eight were liquid of alcohol and two were distilled water. One of the distilled water recrystalized into vial as image to a helix like of choppy angled crystal formation. My friend complaining of how is he supposed to eat this, it just be eating raw crystal.
Acid is a trip. Dose, kick back and get out of body. What’s a body buzz when there is no body?
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28653476 - 02/09/24 09:59 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Have you’ve ever eaten Foxy Methoxy or Moxy? Those two some of the most, if not the most constant, always incredibly visual trytpamines to eat, more so than acid. Dose at 77mg Foxy or the 45mg Moxy and the trip is nothing but the most visual display to see. Really is.
The Foxy crystals look like little flat, size of about a Sharpie pen marker dab to paper, broken mirrors.
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28653482 - 02/09/24 10:08 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Interestingly enough. There are no pictures of LSD crystal online.
I’ve only seen about an eight ball of fluff powder and that recystalized LSD in vial dropper.
No pics online.
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28653491 - 02/09/24 10:20 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Well it its true that every trip is different buz i simply dont undestand how i was full concious and no visual on 1800ug and lets say on some lower doses i knew to went in dreamlike state.. Anyway I have maybe seen that that substance in corner of my eye somewhere on internet but acctually never heard anyone mentioning it until you now.. Well anyway as I said, I have never really thought about that that different types of blotters can have different bodyload, headspace or visuals till maybe few days ago, I was just tripping and was letting myself go in trips
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28653498 - 02/09/24 10:27 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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You have tolerance on 1800 mics ?
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1] 1
#28653500 - 02/09/24 10:28 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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I found that the exact same LSD can have a whole range of different psychological and physical effects and visuals. Initially before I figured that out I was disappointed I couldn't recreate trip types by saving different acid for different occasions. That lead to me blind dosing acid and trying to guess which one it is, and never being able to get it right. I begrudgingly accepted that then, despite it going against what I had previously believed about LSD.
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28653503 - 02/09/24 10:34 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Probably.. if I remember correct i was tripping week before that on 2 or 3 tabs... But even though i had some tolarence when i took 3.5tab as start it kicked me as something as I have never expirienced before in like 10-15min.. Best to describe would be that the first effects and intensity of that 1050ug was like 400-500ug after 2-3h
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28653509 - 02/09/24 10:37 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Also what would be your opinion on liquid? I have tried it maybe 3 or 4 times and as I can remember(I have memory of 2 trips) one was on about 70-80ug and it was decent but the other one was on 200ug+1tab of 1p-lsd(100ug) and it hitted me in like 20min with some crazy visuals.. And as far as I can remember, the feeling was much more pure(I dont know how else I can describe it) then with blotters
And yeah also why I didnt have any visuals from needlepoint tabs(mickymouse)? I think that those 300ug(1800ug expirience) were also needlepoint and as I wrote some people claim that they have almost none visuals on needlepoint and on white fluff they are full blown away with them
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28653575 - 02/09/24 11:51 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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It sounds like a lot of what you're describing is more differences in dose, meaning ug's, and set and setting than differences in Xtal... unless you're actually testing them all?
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#28653580 - 02/10/24 12:01 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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If you over do it too much it can reduce the amount of visuals you get I think.
I did mushrooms a lot years ago and ended up ruining my visuals for a while. Seems to have reset now after a relatively long break.
Not sure about LSD but I could imagine it might play into it a bit.
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Northerner] 1
#28653682 - 02/10/24 04:08 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
Northerner said: I found that the exact same LSD can have a whole range of different psychological and physical effects and visuals. Initially before I figured that out I was disappointed I couldn't recreate trip types by saving different acid for different occasions. That lead to me blind dosing acid and trying to guess which one it is, and never being able to get it right. I begrudgingly accepted that then, despite it going against what I had previously believed about LSD.
the drug just promotes temporal frame stacking or layering, but what you see depends upon who you are, how you have been feeling recently, where you are, how much you took etc.
so if you can imagine a four sided figure without rigidity, you can imagine the different shapes it would take in different situations, and rarely if ever would it be square.
there are so many dependencies, including what you are attracted in the moment to and what you are reflecting on, and how long you have been paying attention to that.
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I know that but I just dont understand hiw different blotters give different results.. I remember when i had only alice in wonderland 250ug and I had like about 50 of them, they gave me specific kind of visuals and then I somehow managed to get some white ones 300ug but i only took half so 150ug and everything was alive and some other people said that also... After that I had that alice's but I couldn't get that kind of visuals.. And after like 2 minths I again got that white one and again had same type of visuals on them like the first time.. And trust me I have eaten like 10 different prints in that over 300 times that i took acid(so I eated every print alot of times) and literally every print gave different results in bodyload and visuals.. but when I took same print over and over trip was different ofcourse but bodyload and visuals remained the same
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28654016 - 02/10/24 10:37 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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the most pure "needlepoint" lsd has the least visuals and bodyload, just everything sharper.
less pure lsd has more visuals, more bodyload and more brain fog
don't ask me why but there are differences and i have felt them on countless occasions regardless of my expectations
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: epilectric] 1
#28654041 - 02/10/24 10:52 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Finally someone who understands what I am talking about
As I have read on multiple sites most people preffer white fluff over the needlepoint I guess because of the visuals
Anyway what is your opinion on white fluff... Its only few percentage less clear than needlepoint so I guess there shouldn't be much if bodyload as I can guess(Because I never acctually had something that was labeled as white fluff, it's just my guessing that it was) And also what are the real differences betweed liquid and blotters(lets say both are white fluff and 200ug)?
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28654051 - 02/10/24 11:00 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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yes, i had some "grateful dead fluff" that was very pure with no bodyload, but still it had obvious fractal rainbow visuals
needlepoint on the other hand just make things sharper, also mentally. so i can see why some prefer fluff, it's more fun i guess
blotter vs liquid.. i had some impure liquid with lots of bodyload and some very clean feeling blotters
right now i have blotters where my dealer drops his liquid on
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: epilectric]
#28654067 - 02/10/24 11:18 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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I have found a guy that makes his own crystal and it's white fluff but from my expirience I once had a liquid(I dont know hoe pure it was) and i hitted me like a train on only 200ug+1plsd 100ug..much faster than blotter would hit.. Also as I said I had that pure feeling and visuals were alot different than with blotters... In one moment I saw hoffman surrounded by hundreds of eyes on the wall also first visuals that came up were like neon squares coming up and down from floor it was like one neon square then empty space then a little smaller neon square then again empty space etc.. Until it came to the middle with ladt neon square and floor was full of them, they were just bouncing up and down... After like 250 trips that was the first time I saw visuals like that.. Anyway I have option between buying 25 drops of 100ug liquid or 10x300ug blotter (same crystal) and I'm in dillema between those two... Because from my past expiriences a liquid was slightly better than blotters but I never had chance to test same crystal of those two varieties
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: Sapeone1]
#28654085 - 02/10/24 11:37 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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really no difference in this case if it was freshly dropped..
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Re: Lsd difference in visuals? [Re: epilectric]
#28654218 - 02/10/24 02:06 PM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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Whole story sounds made up to me.
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#28654340 - 02/10/24 03:31 PM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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And why is that? I acctually have my reasons why I was doing acid almost every few days and to be honest it was long and slow ride but it helped me alot with problems I had in that time thr My mistake which I later realised was that I was overloading my brain with alot of informations every few days which eventually had negative effect like I went nuts because I was tripping constantly and didn't allow myself to integrate leasons that I have learned but instead I was doing it again and again and again.. Maybe I thought I went nuts.. I just know that I was living and working in coffe bar that me and my familly owned in small village where literally everyone is normal(maybe 2 or 3 people were smoking weed) and me as someone who got some lets call it forbriden knowledge well it was hard to be with them and to be honest it was hard to be alone with myself sometimes... I had clinical deppresion, alot of anxiety and I was going through depersonalization and derealization which to be honest was nasty.. Anyway beside that every normal person would say don't trip if something bad is going on in your life but I was the guy who tried it and I saw that even sometimes it can result in bad trips which are people so afraid of but those bad trips after integration had positive outcome on whole situation so I decided to do more acid... And after 3 years of tripping everyting became good in my life.. From understanding myself better, breaking thinking patterns, emotional growth, spiritual growth which isn't only sunshine and flowers, going through dark night of the soul(where I had noone to talk about it because noone understood it), understading spiritual world, knowing spiritual world, understanding how 5th dimension works to understanding how everything is connected to understanding syncronisation, understanding that you can learn from literally every moment and not only from something bad, I came to the point where I had question in my head about something or someone and I got answer in next moment(altough I was sceptical and I was thingking that I am tripping and didn't know if I am getting right or better to say correct and true answers but after sometime I was proven in alot of situations that every answer I recieved was correct), came to the point where I developed telepathy and clairsentience.. Anyway situtation in caffe bar was okey because village crew accepted me for who I am regardles of what I was doing and regardles of that they didnt understood me most of the time.. In some point I came to the point where I needed to learn how to function in a normal world again.. Well alot of thing happedned in past few years but the main reason why I did so much acid is simple.. I liked it and to be honest I preffer to have bad trips then happy ones, simply because from bad ones you can learn much mire then from happy ones... I have tried I would say alot of different supstances and acid is supstance that I liked the most... Literally every time I take it at the point when it starts to kick in i have big smile on my have because I am simply happy that it's starting to kick in.. I know that that may sound stupid because I am saying that i am happy that drug is taking effects but its true.. And to be honest I dare to say that I have mastered acid world and it's effects because more than 80% of my trips i didn't do it just to trip.. I acctually had intentions to work on my depression and later to explore acid world.. And everyone can learn to master the trip(I dare to say even after 40 trips on mushrooms it's not even 10% same like on acid.. Mushrooms are unpredictible if you ask me) well what I wanted to say is that after lets say 5-10 trips even though every trip is different there is something that is common in every trip and when you figure that out, you can expect more controle of your trips and when you do it 100 times you can have control of yourself regarless of what is happening in your head during the trip.. And after that many trips almost become like normal life where everything is magnefied.. I had one expirience 2 and half years ago on 1250ug all by my own when I worked as waiter on season and even though it was full blast of with visuals (I couldnt destinguish what is floor what is sky what were walls) I had complete control of what was happeining in my head
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