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Misha86
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Pls help newbie!!!!
#28651564 - 02/08/24 11:09 AM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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I'm a new grower I got this kit from zamnesia and it's been 15 days and they don't seem to be growing right the first one to pin is now the smallest! I don't know what to do pls help
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Misha86]
#28651579 - 02/08/24 11:29 AM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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There seems to be a lot of information missing here unless you stumbled across a strain that spawns and pins in 15 days.
We need better pics of the fc and all steps leading up to the current picture in order to give you sound advice.
However based on the little I do see I suggest giving it more FAE
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Mwj12977]
#28651611 - 02/08/24 12:13 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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Please remove the vendor name as a courtesy.
It looks like you have some mold growing on there but due to the picture quality its hard to tell.
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It looks like your fruiting chamber is quite dry, as is your substrate. I would heavily mist with distilled water and hope for the best.
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Misha86
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Mwj12977]
#28652381 - 02/09/24 12:24 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I got the kit delivered 3 weeks ago I followed the instructions sprayed every day till the first pin, first pin showed then I stopped still fanned twice a day now it's been just over 2 weeks and first pin is Tiny then I have weird ones!
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Mwj12977]
#28652385 - 02/09/24 12:27 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Misha86]
#28652388 - 02/09/24 12:30 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Store bought sets are often a bit fried out when arriving, remove the cardboard and give it some air and in the future, you can take a plastic container or bag from www.zamnesia.nl buy a spore syringe and waste no more money on store bought kits.

See its easy to do and usually more effective than buying them ready made. But I would go with the TC answers, I sp the PF TEK, which is the TEK used to create your growkit.
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Well I seem to have made the same mistake as the OP with the name, but that makes no difference if hes buying something legal, a growkit isn't legal but verm and a container plus brown rice is and the best part is you are European I can tell send me a PM if you want to talk, I am from Sweden.
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Misha86
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How do I pm? I'm so new to this site and the growing I don't understand most of the terms used, I just want to learn to grow shrooms I have ADHD and they help but I can't just buy them
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Misha86]
#28652401 - 02/09/24 12:54 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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You need like 50 posts to PM I think..Ill send youu one at the top of the menu there is a button called "messages", it will show up there..
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Misha86
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Please what is all the abbreviations mean ??
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Misha86]
#28652458 - 02/09/24 04:13 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Click on the persons name you want to message and at the bottom of the screen it says “send private message”
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Mwj12977]
#28652683 - 02/09/24 09:01 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Is this supposed to be psilocybe cubensis? It looks almost like a sclerotia producer like Mexicana or Tampanensis.
What exactly did you order OP?
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Quote:
elasticaltiger said: Is this supposed to be psilocybe cubensis? It looks almost like a sclerotia producer like Mexicana or Tampanensis.
What exactly did you order OP?
FWIW I think it's got the shit flakes syndrome as in you can't tell wtf they're even using for the substrate sometimes. Looks like large flattened flakes of dry verm or something to me, I've seen quite a few around like those.
This vendor's instructions IIRC tell you to dunk the kit in the fridge for 12 hours and then put into fruiting conditions (open bag and stuff). They're made for being shipped around and dried out from what I gather so they probably changed the mix a bit to accomodate. AFAIK these kits aren't the worst performers on the market also.
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: MrJong]
#28652789 - 02/09/24 11:43 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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they put fucking perlite in them
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Yeah, those kits cost more than doing 8 BRF half pints, they are not really worth it. I also got one in the beginning, just for instant gratification, and really they do perform well for what they are. I got the pan cyan kit btw!
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Skropi] 1
#28652833 - 02/09/24 12:25 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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thats basically my point, it takes a month or two to learn this stuff and the first thing to learn is the BRF TEK. If people lack understanding of how mycelium behaves, they cant control it. Also there is no need to coldshock cubes, there is no need for perlite in the susbtrate except I can imagine they use it to cut some corners. I am sick to death with vendors pushing dicey kits on new growers who often never invest any time or space to learning. Just look at our top growers, they have like cellars and tacks and racks of this stuff but took them a long time to learn and they usually wemnt with the PF TEK first.
You can get whatever easy recipe from anywhoo but lacking understanding of the mycelial life, its circle of life and its properties never ends in fruits, just poor old growers who wont give themselves a second chance.
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I agree with you mate. I just think that kits do have "some" value, but yes, the negatives outweigh the positives by a huge margin.
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Skropi]
#28653543 - 02/09/24 11:15 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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A growkit has value according to me, to someone who knows how it was made. Growkits in general are a bad idea due to the fact that the mycelium contains small amounts of psilocybin/Baeocystin and therefore are illegal.
But sure, growkits are a fun way to start but they cost 45 Euros a pop incl shipping. I myself go caught at customs for ordering a growkit although they dropped the charges.
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Re: Pls help newbie!!!! [Re: Cakewonder]
#28653577 - 02/09/24 11:56 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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Quote:
Cakewonder said: A growkit has value according to me, to someone who knows how it was made. Growkits in general are a bad idea due to the fact that the mycelium contains small amounts of psilocybin/Baeocystin and therefore are illegal.
But sure, growkits are a fun way to start but they cost 45 Euros a pop incl shipping. I myself go caught at customs for ordering a growkit although they dropped the charges.
Here it's more expensive when we include shipping. I didn't know they could actually check the packages. Good thing I didn't plan to order any more kits. My main reason for cultivating is that I just don't like to rely on others. There is nothing hard about PF Tek, and even cloning so as to avoid going back to spores all the time. Some simple PF Tek, some agar work if the fancy strikes, and I can have way more shrooms than I can possibly consume. I mean, I already have more than enough for months, and my first ever cakes still have some life in them. I am now planning to create a huge outdoor patch of cubes, I would love to see them growing outdoors, and maybe even get to spread everywhere.
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