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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: christopera]
#28646613 - 02/04/24 04:15 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I'll just add when I checked through alibaba the shipping cost for a 4x2 ffu was crazy. Like $500 plus the $500 for the unit. Then I ended up slowing down before I bought one but if I had to get one now I'd probably try to find one local or atleast that ships from within USA. If you know alot of people that would buy one you can get cheaper shipping by buying like 6 at once but I keep this hobby to myself and the fine folks on this board.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: WyoMX]
#28646633 - 02/04/24 04:34 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Shipping on the one I linked to is $10. So even with face value it's $560 to get a fairly big hood.
It takes a half hour to assemble. I definitely wouldn't say it's "lab" grade but it does the job. I spent months looking for used units in driving distance and I realized I had so much time looking I should have just bought one.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: christopera]
#28646663 - 02/04/24 05:18 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I value the information here very much but one thing I just need to ask:
It was mentioned before but I think it wasn't answered properly. In Gordo's video he demonstrates via Flame Test, that the airflow or if his (possibly stolen) TEK is not turbulent when dialed in correctly. I'm not saying it is perfect laminar flow, although it sure looks like it. At least the flow hood in our lab shows the same effect on a flame...
Additionally he demonstrates at the end of the video that the particle count is 0 when inside the range of the "blowhood". Once he moves the tester out of its range, count goes up.
I would really like to know what arguments OP or other experienced growers can give with regard to these two facts. After all, we want non-turbulent flow and a particle count of 0 from our flow hood, right?
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r]
#28646965 - 02/04/24 11:44 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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It's not a "stolen" tek. He mentions he didn't invent it. And the guy who did obviously didn't want publicity. And Gordo teaches how you can DIY. And he isn't selling anything, you are the one accusing someone else partly because you didn't read or listen carefully.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: laughingdog]
#28647146 - 02/05/24 03:26 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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laughingdog said: It's not a "stolen" tek. He mentions he didn't invent it. And the guy who did obviously didn't want publicity. And Gordo teaches how you can DIY. And he isn't selling anything, you are the one accusing someone else partly because you didn't read or listen carefully.
That's why I wrote "(possibly stolen)". Sry, English isn't my native language... I read in this thread that somebody said he might have stolen it, that's why I said possibly.
Even if it were true, he made a great video about it, which is a lot of work and I'm grateful for that. Not to mention all his other videos. So again, sorry if that seemed like critique from me, it wasn't intended.
Anyway, I'm really interested to hear valid arguments against using that self made box.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: AcidRex]
#28647529 - 02/05/24 11:42 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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christopera said: I paid $500 for my 4'x2' hood. I bought it new. It's saved me more than enough time to have paid for itself in a like one month of use. I just work so much faster and more reliably with it. No regrets.
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fungalfrontier said: So I recently bought this 2x2 ffu off Amazon. I've been wondering if I should build more of a cabinet on the front. I've seen some people say it doesn't really matter. I haven't had contam issues really but it's only been a short time. Haven't even got my first fruit.
I picked up a 18x24x6 filter for free (slightly used i think, should I just get a new one?) And was thinking of maybe building one of the wooden box flow hoods I see online. Besides the fact that I like the aesthetic, are those style flow hoods superior to these ffu style ones from Amazon.
I mean I see people charging 2000 dollars for one when you can get a 4x2 ffu for half that. Any input appreciated.

Hi so where did you get that from exactly can u post a link ? How much was it and keep us updated if the ting actually works. If its just bullshit I will stick to my SAB until I can afford a real Laminar Flow Hood from Alibaba for 500$ or 350$ still waiting on shipping costs. But have sent them an inquiry.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mushroom-desktop-clean-work-bench-laminar_1600128716386.html
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-class-100-horizontal-laminar-air_1600479649335.html
oh and what do you call those little shelves that is standing in front of your flow hood ...would liek something like that also for my SAB
This is the link to the unit. It's 375 bucks or something after tax.
Fan Filter Unit Laminar-Flow-Hood Yzzwer - FFU HEPA Filters for Class 100/ISO 5 Cleanliness Clean Room Mycology and Mushroom Room Work 110V (Include HEPA Filter) https://a.co/d/7SVszsM
I saw alot of people ordering another model Amazon that's a little over 500 and I took the chance on this. It's kind of a pain to get a pre filter on the back the way its shaped. Sort of a bulging circle. I ended up buying merv13 filter fabric (don't buy pleated like I accidentally did ) and used some super strong little tac style fridge magnets to secure it around the opening.
It passes the lighter test at 6" , but I notice it's not laminar all the way across. Basically where the pleats come to a point is where the air seems to leave the hepa. Is that normal ?
I haven't had issues with pouring my agar plates in front of it. Leave my mason jar sitting open right in front of it while I set out new plates and everything. Probably about 75-100 plates poured.
The things sitting in front are stackable cooling racks like for cookies. I want to get a stainless steel table for all my stuff but I'm working with what I got for now. I extended my work space out with some melamine coated shelves, less than ideal but I'm not dropping anything behind my dresser on accident anymore and I actually have room for the racks and a shoebox now.
Super excited about that. Just did my first spawn to bulk, and my all in one bag is near ready to fruit. also got some pf cakes going. Waiting on an order of genetics so I got everything prepped this weekend for that. Trying out a little of everything see what I like best.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: AcidRex]
#28647574 - 02/05/24 12:20 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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AcidRex said: Great Write up....
So I was in the clear about the principles of a still air box....but not so clear about keeping everything of the ground level of the box....I always wiped it down with alcohol and then spraid alcohol mist inside and let it all come to rest thinking the alcohol mist will capture solids like bacteria or spores suspended in the air and make the air more pure. To be honest I haven't even cut holes in my box but just kept it hanging over the edge of the table, always thinking hmm thats probably not the best to introduce my hand from below and over the edge of the table to box is standing on. So yeah I have the box upside down over the edge of the table so i can enter from there. I also wear a corona mask ffp2, latex gloves, a plastic apron, sanitize and wipe down everything all the time between each plate etc. only place I have problems with a bit of contam is in agar work. I haven't messed around with making my own liquid culture as i feel that is probably most prone to contam and best achieved with a laminar flow hood. But it seems to be possible also with SAB. SO I will finally cut some hand holes into my still air box i guess. Even though I did have reasonably good results, most contam was problems with grain water over under saturation or too liquid agar. Still probably working through holes and moving slowly will probably improve my contam rate further. I did achieve also results without a pressure cooker. In my first grows I Used a large pot no pour tek and tindalization over three days, same thing with grain spawn quart glasses and stuff. So pressure cooker had greatly improved everything immediately. Those days I was achievieng success only by changing the odds by making huge quantities of everything and repeating processes. This way I also gained lots of experience and when stuff failed I red up on that step alot. reading reading reading and youtube tutorials for on hands visual info. Had absolutely no money for equipment at the time just enough to buy a still air box. and some monotubs. Wrecked the whole first batch of grain spawn cause i loaded the tubs with alfalfa coco coir coffee or something like that ...way to nutritious and the whole thing went to shit.. .. uhm I mean mold.
Anyway what I am trying to say is yes one can achieve success in growing with the most simple teks and if you make big enough batches of everything with faulty teks chances are you will be lucky at least once. If you are working with teks going in the right direction then you will heighten your efficiency and if you then actually gain knowledge through trial and error what works and what doesn't and which are the important stages where clean work is most vital and important. So once u have an understanding of where the important things are for example if u have no way of working cleanly a nutritious substrate is not necessary and even counterproductive. Grain has all the energy they need for some nice flushes. Well sterilized grain (better harder grains than softer grains as the sweet spot of mushiness to firm but fully hydrated is much smaller in soft grains. I started out with brown rice which is easily overhidated and turn very mushy during tindalization  Not even PC sterilization. I a found whole wheat and or rye to work super good bit for colonization and hydrating to the right level whcih is absolutley vital. It is easier to hit the larger sweet spot with harder grains.
So a good understanding of what you are doing will heighten your success rate with simple budget equipment. 1. Still Air Box works perfectly fine if you are careful. 2. Agar is super valuable to be sure to have clean cultures and it is not harder to do than your grain work. 3. Well hydrated grain will not contaminate that easy. U can make smaller gars to start out your grain cause a smaller quantity will be faster colonized from one agar wedge which is shaken in the reclosed sterilized grain glass. Then expand to two a little bigger glasses etc. Later you can expand 1 quart to four quarts. this way you are not inoculating a large amount without many inoculation points but inoculating a small amount with multiple points further reducing the chance of any contams having time or place to grow. Agar is key as a filter for reducing contam in grain cause the mycelium is already growing and cleaned as opposed to spores which need to germinate first. 4.And finally using pasteurized non-nutritious substrate like coco coir with maybe a bit of manure or a bit of coffee a bit of eggshells or lime as an acid buffer not the hydrated superpotent one but the other one. And you will have absolutely no big problems with contam . I just work in open air in a clean environment with the clean grain spawn monotubs and the bulksubstrate. And I have really stretched the grain spawn sometimes making boxes needing like 3 weeks sometimes to fully colonize but then producing two fine flushes. So in the first batches I made I just made sure I would never kill every live mycelium culture I had or all grain for that matter but always having a sample of every stage of the project to restart from if things went south. Aditionaly I knew if I was working with very suboptimal equipment so I just hightened my chances buy always making 4 transfers per transfer so that at least one would come out clean etc.
So to sum it up, sometimes the simplest setup works. And it definetely works without laminar flow. Laminar flow is definetely a game changer as I have worked in a real lab during my Biology Bachelors and we hardly ever had any contam there. Everything else except laminar flow or still air does not make sense, apart from a clean room @
The science seems to be clear about that. SO either you have achieved laminar flow or something close to it and that's great. For most people on a budget the still air box is probably still the better choice choice cause sufficient yields can be easily achieved if you know what you are doing. A deep understanding can be probabyl achieved by lots of trial and error and refining techniques and sharpening the blade of knowledge. and experience. Building a working flow box requires a whole different set of skills and has lots of additional potential errors to be made in building it. Seals, Airflow, Filters etc. Anyway you can buy one for I guess 500$ from Alibaba, which might be well worth your and my while of you are wanting to get into the Hobby a bit more seriously and growng medicinal and gourmet mushrooms next to the psychedelic medicine. Maybe even semiprofesionaly but first I will see how well it ges except for copelandia and Cubes. I have a Lions MAne Grow Kit ion the way and am gonna be cloning the oysters in my fridge. Maybe also the portobellos.
Greetings
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: fungalfrontier]
#28647587 - 02/05/24 12:28 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hey Dude where did you get thet flow box and for how much ?? Is it thotoughly tested and aproved ?? Like leaving samples open in front of it for like 10 minutes or so ??? And then checked for contam a few days later and a week later ??
Greetings
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r]
#28647675 - 02/05/24 01:56 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Gordo's DIY box passes the lighter test up to 7", has zero particle count (measured with a professional particle detector) in the flow and left Petris open in front of it for 5 minutes without any contamination...
I just don't get why his TEK not ok according to this thread... Instead of paying 500 bucks and shipping fees if another 3-500, I'd think his TEK is a really good solution for homegrowers.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r] 1
#28647680 - 02/05/24 02:09 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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m3ist3r said: Gordo's DIY box passes the lighter test up to 7", has zero particle count (measured with a professional particle detector) in the flow and left Petris open in front of it for 5 minutes without any contamination...
I just don't get why his TEK not ok according to this thread... Instead of paying 500 bucks and shipping fees if another 3-500, I'd think his TEK is a really good solution for homegrowers.
$300-$400 gets you a slim, light, non-DIY FFU shipped to your door from Amazon these day. That’s way better than anything I could build for the same price, so that’s another great option.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r]
#28647774 - 02/05/24 03:28 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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A SAB is also a fine solution for homegrowers, and can pretty much achieve the same success rates without spending another 80+ dollars on the parts. The gordotek filter is kinda small too, and probably has less of a working area than inside a SAB would. That's the only real reasons I can see why anyone wouldn't want to be using one. Can't argue with the tests though. If its working for you, who cares what anyone else thinks right? I think you could do better with a little more money though. If you used solid wood instead a cheap tote for example. Then it will look more like a normal DIY FFU, and no one will give you crap about it.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: San Pedro Girl]
#28647787 - 02/05/24 03:39 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Also, on the Hobbie Level I think you can achieve low contam rates with a sab and if you know what you are doing. Very well. Don't know I am going to try to grow Lions Mane cloning it from a grow kit that I have ordered next and also was gonna clone some oysters from the supermarket. SO agar work is probably way more efficient in front of laminar flow. But also I think I am just sloppi and still always can clean up at least one of my transfers. Lets see how the work with other species goes, but I am guessing it is actually all fairly similar. Like Oysters should not be hard ...figure out how to make bulk substrate for them, figure out if i wanna grow in bags or tubs, right temperatures and moisture and apart from that same as what we are doing here I guess. Anyway ,I think even as a PSychedelics Grower it is fairly easy to obtain the funds for extra equipment. I mean if you dont wanna take money for these kind of things just ask all the friends that you are providing for to chip in once and tada theres the good Laminar Flow Hood from China for like a 1000$ bucks including shipping. Or at least those things from amazon that seem to work also according to the experience of people in the forum. But I think actually good still air boxes and careful work might just have the same results. Than anything non real laminar flow. Seems the logical conclusion to me.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: PsillySeeEms]
#28647863 - 02/05/24 04:39 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Oh man . I am also Replying to Myself. Just found these through an advertising banner on the Forum.
https://funguyequipment.com/collections/flow-hood

Seem Great and I guess should end the discussion, for me at least it does if u can such a good deal on a working LMH. I mean 150 to 250 for the biggest one. And free shipping to Germany. I think you cant find a better deal, and if it really reduces the chance of contam signifiacantly which I believe they actually will if they are partners of shroomery advertising on there. Plus they look nice. No way I would make better version or bigger version than that a now way a hobby lab need anything bigger than those. So I have found my Laminar Flow Solution if I do get more serious about this and I am still fighting contams. So I will check out how my cloning of Lions Mane, Pleurotis (Oysters) and Treffels goes on agar. iF i AM REALLY CAREFULL how little contam I can achieve with a flowbox.
I do build surfboards and was thinking about somehow growin mycelium inside a surfboard template hmm maybe even bulksubstrate in the a surfboard template somehow get it to be fully colonized by dense mycelium would make up a great surfboard...some kind of fiber wrapped around it and some natural or sustainable maybe even decomposable resin to finish it. Oooops , just thinking out loud.
What I wanted to say is I do like DIY approaches but with a laminar hood i just want to get something that works and put all my effort in growing and expanding my knowledge on that end. Get into different species, medicinal, gourmet and active ones. Outdoor actives. There is so much that I personally would rather do in this Hobby than constructing a good working laminar flow hood if it is so economically available to me and I can actually achieve super great success with only a SAB.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: San Pedro Girl]
#28648395 - 02/06/24 03:11 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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San Pedro Girl said: $300-$400 gets you a slim, light, non-DIY FFU shipped to your door from Amazon these day. That’s way better than anything I could build for the same price, so that’s another great option.
I'm not so sure about that. Especially for people in Europe...
All I could find were the ones with vertical flow and in the range of about 400 Euros without shipping.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r]
#28648397 - 02/06/24 03:14 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Check Amazon, I shipped one to South Africa.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: PsillySeeEms]
#28648403 - 02/06/24 03:17 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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PsillySeeEms said: A SAB is also a fine solution for homegrowers, and can pretty much achieve the same success rates without spending another 80+ dollars on the parts. The gordotek filter is kinda small too, and probably has less of a working area than inside a SAB would. That's the only real reasons I can see why anyone wouldn't want to be using one. Can't argue with the tests though. If its working for you, who cares what anyone else thinks right? I think you could do better with a little more money though. If you used solid wood instead a cheap tote for example. Then it will look more like a normal DIY FFU, and no one will give you crap about it. 
That's right regarding the SAB. And for stuff like cleaning contamed petris it is even better suited...
Yeah, working area is a really good argument, didn't think about that. I guess with a fan that can be regulated one could choose a greater filter though.
As I have already built one, I'll have to stick with it and see what my results are... I'll discover if it works soon 
If only I had the time and woodworking skills to make a good case
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said: Check Amazon, I shipped one to South Africa.
I wouldn't want to order from US Amazon. There are many reasons. Shipping costs, shipping duration, customs, maybe nosey federal agents in my country, etc...
Ordering stuff between European countries is much less of a hassle. It's just that US Amazon seems to have more products for mycology available.
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: m3ist3r] 1
#28648408 - 02/06/24 03:27 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Shipping cost is negligible when you consider the price of buying a hood locally here. Shipping time? I received mine in 6 days from China delivered to my door in South Africa.
Customs is covered when you place the order with Amazon. Federal agents? It's an ffu not a bomb or drugs, people buy products daily from Amazon without concerning themselves with the federal agents.
Anyway, your choice
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: AcidRex]
#28648410 - 02/06/24 03:32 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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AcidRex said: Oh man . I am also Replying to Myself. Just found these through an advertising banner on the Forum.
https://funguyequipment.com/collections/flow-hood
Seem Great and I guess should end the discussion for me at least if u can find a good deal on a working contraption.
I do build surfboards and was thinking about somehow growin mycelium inside a surfboard template hmm maybe even bulksubstrate in the a surfboard template somehow get it to be fully colonized by dense mycelium would make up a great surfboard...some kind of fiber wrapped around it and some natural or sustainable maybe even decomposable resin to finish it. Oooops , just thinking out loud. What I wanted to say is I do like DIY approaches but with a laminar hood i just want to get something that works and put all my effort in growing and expanding my knowledge on that end. Get into different species, medicinal, gourmet and active ones. Outdoor actives. There is so much that I personally would rather do in this Hobby than constructing a good working laminar flow hood if it is so economically available to me and I can actually achieve super great success with only a SAB.
I agree with you, I'd also love to have the money for one of those nice 1000+ flow hoods and not have to build a mediocre one myself.
Regarding that funguyequipment.com site (awesome name btw ) I would take care. The prices are in Hungarian Forint and you can't find anything on it about where they're located. The hoods look nice and are damn cheap... I'd say too cheap. Just think about what the filter costs. Then the fan, the walls, the lights, the power supply etc.
Also, I'm quite sure they're 3D printed (they are made of PETG) by some dude in Hungary, so still no "professional" flow hood with calculated geometry, pressure and stuff. Just saying...
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Re: Box fan flowhoods, Glove boxes, Positive pressure boxes and Automated Mono-Tubs [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28648414 - 02/06/24 03:39 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Shipping cost is negligible when you consider the price of buying a hood locally here. Shipping time? I received mine in 6 days from China delivered to my door in South Africa.
Customs is covered when you place the order with Amazon. Federal agents? It's an ffu not a bomb or drugs, people buy products daily from Amazon without concerning themselves with the federal agents.
Anyway, your choice
On Alibaba shopping cost for a bulky flow hood from China to Europe is currently around 500-800 Euros.
Customs is covered from their end. I once bought some electronics from a seller in China. It took 4-5 weeks to arrive. My country wanted additional taxes on it, paperwork, driving to customs offices filling out forms, bringing papers from my bank account to prove the amount I paid etc... Not funny.
I'm not afraid of being arrested for buying a flow hood, but keeping as low a profile as possible is not stupid these days... If I were them, I'd ask myself: "Why would some random dude need a professional flow hood for hundreds of Euros"
Even selling edible mushrooms can make you problems because you have to pay taxes on those sales...
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