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Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs
    #28644319 - 02/02/24 05:31 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/overdose/decriminalization

Didn't know about this(not every drug legal like the video says)


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 4
    #28644352 - 02/02/24 05:59 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

And now the downtown Eastside looks like Kensington in Philly. The results have not been overly positive. Zombies everywhere, no repercussions for openly using and being fucked up on fentanyl, but no increased help or resources. Crime will rise, and this experiment will end.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus]
    #28644371 - 02/02/24 06:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

There would obviously be downsides to it like you said people nodding out everywhere but most people probably don't know about the law therefore not changing much.


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 1
    #28644423 - 02/02/24 06:45 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

It's been bad there since the 80s, but reports are it's getting much worse. They know the laws, it's just being flaunted openly now.


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus]
    #28644431 - 02/02/24 06:56 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I see....


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28644434 - 02/02/24 06:59 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Don't get me wrong I'm all for decriminalization, but there needs to be other things in place to try to help the people. These skid rows in cities are just zombie lands now people sleeping standing up hunched over it's fucked.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus]
    #28644437 - 02/02/24 07:03 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Yeah it's good not putting people in jail for drugs.


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28644449 - 02/02/24 07:17 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Tour of my neighborhood. Vancouver Islands worst. I thought buddy filming was gonna get beat up at first. Wouldn't catch me over there pointing a camera at everyone. :grin: They have security guards at the McDonald's there and one got bear sprayed the other day when I was there. It's been like this for decades but the homeless population is bigger than ever. We have the first in BC safe inhalation station there and a safe injection site.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Mystikal]
    #28644466 - 02/02/24 07:28 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

We got homeless all over the place here on Oahu too I'm sure the other islands here are the same.


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus] * 1
    #28644483 - 02/02/24 07:48 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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And now the downtown Eastside looks like Kensington in Philly. The results have not been overly positive. Zombies everywhere, no repercussions for openly using and being fucked up on fentanyl, but no increased help or resources. Crime will rise, and this experiment will end.



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Don't get me wrong I'm all for decriminalization, but there needs to be other things in place to try to help the people. These skid rows in cities are just zombie lands now people sleeping standing up hunched over it's fucked.






So sad too because the nuance of your second point gets lost in the knee-jerk 'tough on crime' reaction that seems to naturally occur after failed experiments like this. Drug addiction is a health issue that needs to be treated like one, but I agree that decriminalizing drugs and taking harm reduction measures like safe injection sites seem like incomplete solutions that can make things worse rather than better without other measures.

That said, I've lived in Philly and it doesn't really matter whether drugs are decriminalized and safe needle sites exist or not. Places like Kensington are gonna Kensington - they are a reflection of some of our deepest and most systemic issues in society and unfortunately things are an utter mess right now.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #28644499 - 02/02/24 08:01 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)



I like this guy in Vancouver BC. Dana Larson. He is an advocate for total legalization and runs dispensaries and a drug checking service. He mailed mushrooms and coca leaves to every member of parliament.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: pirate-blues]
    #28644529 - 02/02/24 08:18 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Good points for sure. And honestly I don't know the solution, or if there is one that is at all feasible or realistic.

It's interesting because there's a documentary from the 90s called Through a Blue Lens. It's about a few compassionate cops in the downtown Eastside Vancouver neighborhood talking to the skid row addicts, getting to know them, trying to help, etc. It looked pretty grim back then, but now it just looks like a zombie apocalypse. As the drugs get worse, so do the conditions and the surroundings. The 90s heroin addicts look so quaint compared to the xylazine fueled dope fiends.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus]
    #28644574 - 02/02/24 08:58 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Vancouver can kiss my balls

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Mystikal] * 1
    #28644602 - 02/02/24 09:19 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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I like this guy in Vancouver BC. Dana Larson. He is an advocate for total legalization and runs dispensaries and a drug checking service. He mailed mushrooms and coca leaves to every member of parliament.




He got rich profiteering off drugs, whilst acting like the good guy. I can't say what I want to, I'm not a snitch. There is a reason he can afford to run that drug checking service. Above and beyond the 300 dollar cactuses and overpriced microdoses.

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Things are worse since decrim, you can shoot up in a playground and the police cannot stop you. Its important to note before this was the law it was rare to get charged for possesion anyway, leaving it up to officer discretion was working just fine. They created this law and didnt make it illegal to do drugs in public. Now its everywhere you can blow fent smoke on children, legally. You have to walk thru a cloud of death just to go to the corner store.

Now there is talk of government issued cocaine and meth because those drugs are being laced with fentanyl. I think what we need is some fent blotters to go around. I can't even express how insane i think it is to legalize the shit drugs, while all the good drugs are still illegal. Everything this government is doing is turning the public against legalization because they just keep making it worse for non users.

The whole thing has been a huge fail. The outside of every legal shooting gallery looks like this 



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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28644607 - 02/02/24 09:21 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Rob Ford was the mayor of Toronto what does he have to do with Van?

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: Rukus]
    #28644612 - 02/02/24 09:25 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Rob Ford is a personal hero of mine and the spirit of Toronto how dare u sir that has everything to do with Vancouver and metropolitan Canada wake the fuck up bud :youseethisshit:

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28644658 - 02/02/24 10:20 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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Rob Ford is a personal hero of mine and the spirit of Toronto how dare u sir that has everything to do with Vancouver and metropolitan Canada wake the fuck up bud :youseethisshit:




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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: viraldrome]
    #28645002 - 02/03/24 09:22 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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I like this guy in Vancouver BC. Dana Larson. He is an advocate for total legalization and runs dispensaries and a drug checking service. He mailed mushrooms and coca leaves to every member of parliament.




He got rich profiteering off drugs, whilst acting like the good guy. I can't say what I want to, I'm not a snitch. There is a reason he can afford to run that drug checking service. Above and beyond the 300 dollar cactuses and overpriced microdoses.

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Things are worse since decrim, you can shoot up in a playground and the police cannot stop you. Its important to note before this was the law it was rare to get charged for possesion anyway, leaving it up to officer discretion was working just fine. They created this law and didnt make it illegal to do drugs in public. Now its everywhere you can blow fent smoke on children, legally. You have to walk thru a cloud of death just to go to the corner store.

Now there is talk of government issued cocaine and meth because those drugs are being laced with fentanyl. I think what we need is some fent blotters to go around. I can't even express how insane i think it is to legalize the shit drugs, while all the good drugs are still illegal. Everything this government is doing is turning the public against legalization because they just keep making it worse for non users.

The whole thing has been a huge fail. The outside of every legal shooting gallery looks like this 








In Ottawa they've been hassling mushroom dispensaries of all places - luckily they seem to be lawyering up successfully because they haven't been able to shut any down long-term despite attempts. It is so backwards.

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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: pirate-blues]
    #28645103 - 02/03/24 11:10 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

I don't have kids but I'm pretty sure if somebody was shooting up in a kids park and I or somebody else went up and spartan kicked the shit out of them that nobody would say anything about it.


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Re: Vancouver canda no criminal charges for small amounts of certain drugs [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28645138 - 02/03/24 11:32 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

I'd hope they're not doing it a park but I'm sure there's plenty who are.


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