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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Winston Smith] 1
#28643910 - 02/02/24 12:11 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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... so you lied then.  Not a good look, Winston.
I personally think reading the Wiki would be a good place to start to research and understand it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: ... so you lied then.  Not a good look, Winston.
I personally think reading the Wiki would be a good place to start to research and understand it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
Edit: flame removed 
Not a good look, lifeis.
Your new nickname is NASA. Y'know...never a straight answer lol
Edited by ballsalsa (02/02/24 01:30 PM)
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28643929 - 02/02/24 12:29 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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sudly said: The bombing doesn't destroy the tunnels anyway, just the surface stuff.
It gives them access and takes out areas for them to launch rockets and store weapons, which they do. Why do we even need these threads? One side is always going to be unreasonable because you think Israel has zero obligation to exist and needs to leave or die without fight.
How does a statement that bombing the surface doesn't necessarily destroy the tunnels end up with an accusation that 'Israel has zero obligation to exist'?
That's an absurd statement, a strawman at its best. Made up shit.
I think a two state solution is something to strive for.
I'm hesitant to believe that every strike the IDF has conducted has been at a legitimate military target. No country could say 16 cemeteries were legitimate targets, then not show any tunnels underneath them and be believable.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Winston Smith] 1
#28643930 - 02/02/24 12:32 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: ... so you lied then.  Not a good look, Winston.
I personally think reading the Wiki would be a good place to start to research and understand it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
So you're ignorant 
Not a good look, lifeis.
Your new nickname is NASA. Y'know...never a straight answer lol
That is a strange reply to my last message. You seem to be looking for drama.  You're starting to lose my interest...
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick] 1
#28643977 - 02/02/24 01:22 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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chopstick said: US airstrikes to begin within 48h. Either this will be a nothing burger or it's gonna be severe enough to get us into war with Iran.
My bet is a nothing burger. Still though, the resistance should respond by targeting more US soldiers. Just to show off how utterly pointless and futile our response actually is.
I don't think the Biden regime can afford a huge war with Iran during election year.
Just get outta the fuckin' middle east already, you imbeciles.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
#28644106 - 02/02/24 02:39 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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The USA appears to have finally responded with military in response to 3 Americans killed earlier this week by that drone attack.
https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1753533250146824348?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Edited by lifeiswhatyoumake (02/02/24 02:40 PM)
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28644260 - 02/02/24 04:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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sudly said: The bombing doesn't destroy the tunnels anyway, just the surface stuff.
It gives them access and takes out areas for them to launch rockets and store weapons, which they do. Why do we even need these threads? One side is always going to be unreasonable because you think Israel has zero obligation to exist and needs to leave or die without fight.
How does a statement that bombing the surface doesn't necessarily destroy the tunnels end up with an accusation that 'Israel has zero obligation to exist'?
That's an absurd statement, a strawman at its best. Made up shit.
I think a two state solution is something to strive for.
I'm hesitant to believe that every strike the IDF has conducted has been at a legitimate military target. No country could say 16 cemeteries were legitimate targets, then not show any tunnels underneath them and be believable.
THEY SHOWED THE TUNNELS, DO YOU EVEN BOTHER RESEARCHING ANYTHING BEFORE MAKING SHIT UP? Losers like CNN who defend everything Hamas does saying the entrances aren't in the cemeteries, as if that's the distinction needed It's embarrassing.
There will be no 2 state solution with Hamas. If you want to strive for that goal, actively root for Hamas to be destroyed. If you don't want cemeteries desecrated, don't run your terror tunnels through them. You think Hamas built their tunnels AROUND them and AROUND hospitals and AROUND schools and AROUND literally fucking EVERYTHING? The IDF could just blindly fire a missle at something and the tunnels would be underneath because they have spent their aid BUILDING TUNNELS.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Tulipslave] 1
#28644275 - 02/02/24 05:01 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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chopstick said: I saw the 48h number thrown around on both twitter and legacy media this morning.
If it doesn't happen in this timeframe, then it may be they are having second thoughts.
In any case, it's strange it's taking them this long.
Because it couldn't be that the "sources" are just making shit up......
The attacks just happened today a few hours after I posted. So no, sources weren't wrong.
As predicted, it did not involve attacks on Iran but was a bigger-than-usual attack on Iraq and Syria. The Pentagon stated they hit 85 targets. The targets included the Iraqi PMF headquarters, random ammo dumps and fuel depots, at-least one Syrian army base, and suspected IRGC infrastructure.
Human casualties were light due to the advanced notice but a fair bit of equipment was probably destroyed. I have heard that at-least 3 Syrian NDF soldiers and a few Iraqis were killed. That's not much for a fairly large attack like this.
So it turned out to be a nothing burger afterall. Thank God.
The main problem of course is that as long as we have troops in Iraq and Syria, they will be targeted. Next time more US soldiers are killed, the pressure to attack Iran directly will be greater than it was this time. Because obviously it "wasn't enough" last time so it will be argued that we need to go further and further with each escalation.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] 4
#28644278 - 02/02/24 05:04 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Lol. Why not just show some evidence to prove your point instead of throwing a fit?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
#28644310 - 02/02/24 05:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Why not use logic before stating completely stupid things to defend terrorists? Why not just Google yourself the 2 keywords you'd need to find something out before claiming it's bullshit? Sorry, mod who banned me for calling someone stupid, but allows them to call me a cunt, maybe I just get sick of people who don't bother doing a modicum of research before spreading lies about shit?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
#28644312 - 02/02/24 05:26 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Initial reports say 85 targets destroyed and minimal loss of life....yeah, nothingburger

Everything that I have read states that this will be a "tiered response". On what end of the tier, this action lays, is anyones guess...seems like more to come.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] 3
#28644326 - 02/02/24 05:40 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Why not use logic before stating completely stupid things to defend terrorists? Why not just Google yourself the 2 keywords you'd need to find something out before claiming it's bullshit? Sorry, mod who banned me for calling someone stupid, but allows them to call me a cunt, maybe I just get sick of people who don't bother doing a modicum of research before spreading lies about shit?
You're the only one here with the burden to support your claims. Either do it or don't, but you should expect to be disregarded at minimum if you just talk out of your ass without any supporting links.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Enlil]
#28644349 - 02/02/24 05:58 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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No, that's not how it works. IDF made the claim and supported it with pictures. The claim that the tunnels aren't there and it's BS is the claim of the conspiracy nut terrorist sympathizers, not mine. It's well established that they have tunnels throughout Gaza, which nobody but people ITT seem to dispute. You should evidence of something being bullshit before calling it such, especially when Google is available. Type of "hamas cemetery tunnels" into the Google machine and voila!
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28644360 - 02/02/24 06:03 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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sudly said: The bombing doesn't destroy the tunnels anyway, just the surface stuff.
It gives them access and takes out areas for them to launch rockets and store weapons, which they do. Why do we even need these threads? One side is always going to be unreasonable because you think Israel has zero obligation to exist and needs to leave or die without fight.
How does a statement that bombing the surface doesn't necessarily destroy the tunnels end up with an accusation that 'Israel has zero obligation to exist'?
That's an absurd statement, a strawman at its best. Made up shit.
I think a two state solution is something to strive for.
I'm hesitant to believe that every strike the IDF has conducted has been at a legitimate military target. No country could say 16 cemeteries were legitimate targets, then not show any tunnels underneath them and be believable.
THEY SHOWED THE TUNNELS, DO YOU EVEN BOTHER RESEARCHING ANYTHING BEFORE MAKING SHIT UP? Losers like CNN who defend everything Hamas does saying the entrances aren't in the cemeteries, as if that's the distinction needed It's embarrassing.
There will be no 2 state solution with Hamas. If you want to strive for that goal, actively root for Hamas to be destroyed. If you don't want cemeteries desecrated, don't run your terror tunnels through them. You think Hamas built their tunnels AROUND them and AROUND hospitals and AROUND schools and AROUND literally fucking EVERYTHING? The IDF could just blindly fire a missle at something and the tunnels would be underneath because they have spent their aid BUILDING TUNNELS.
Everyone in this thread understands there are tunnels under Gaza, personally I think it’s a great idea 👍 Your claim was there were HAMAS bases under hospitals. Prove it.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28644372 - 02/02/24 06:10 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Sorry, mod who banned me for calling someone stupid, but allows them to call me a cunt,
Who called you a cunt?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] 3
#28644374 - 02/02/24 06:12 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Hello, and welcome to the forum.
The burden of proof is on you, since you made the claim. Telling people to Google it, doesn't cut da mustard.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28644411 - 02/02/24 06:36 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28644418 - 02/02/24 06:41 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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sudly said: The bombing doesn't destroy the tunnels anyway, just the surface stuff.
It gives them access and takes out areas for them to launch rockets and store weapons, which they do. Why do we even need these threads? One side is always going to be unreasonable because you think Israel has zero obligation to exist and needs to leave or die without fight.
How does a statement that bombing the surface doesn't necessarily destroy the tunnels end up with an accusation that 'Israel has zero obligation to exist'?
That's an absurd statement, a strawman at its best. Made up shit.
I think a two state solution is something to strive for.
I'm hesitant to believe that every strike the IDF has conducted has been at a legitimate military target. No country could say 16 cemeteries were legitimate targets, then not show any tunnels underneath them and be believable.
THEY SHOWED THE TUNNELS, DO YOU EVEN BOTHER RESEARCHING ANYTHING BEFORE MAKING SHIT UP? Losers like CNN who defend everything Hamas does saying the entrances aren't in the cemeteries, as if that's the distinction needed It's embarrassing.
There will be no 2 state solution with Hamas. If you want to strive for that goal, actively root for Hamas to be destroyed. If you don't want cemeteries desecrated, don't run your terror tunnels through them. You think Hamas built their tunnels AROUND them and AROUND hospitals and AROUND schools and AROUND literally fucking EVERYTHING? The IDF could just blindly fire a missle at something and the tunnels would be underneath because they have spent their aid BUILDING TUNNELS.
Cite the tunnels underneath the cemetary if it's THAT EASY.
Ahh there you have it, there will be no 2 state solution, is that a statement or an aspiration? I don't believe every military target the IDF is striking is Hamas. I don't buy the excuse, for some occasions sure, but certainly not all, and not for 16 cemetaries.
I haven't seen proof that all 16 cemetaries had tunnels underneath them.
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The IDF could just blindly fire a missle at something and the tunnels would be underneath because they have spent their aid BUILDING TUNNELS.
If your statement was true, that would be an infinite excuse to bomb anything in Gaza. A telling statement if you ask me.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] 1
#28644461 - 02/02/24 07:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Stable Genius said: Israel has destroyed every university in Gaza, I guess they were all HAMAS bases too?
How’d they manage to plant all the explosives to do the controlled demolition if these were HAMAS bases?
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-israel--pulverizing-gaza-quarters-outside-its-aspired--buff#:~:text=The%20initial%20bombings%20targeted%20the,of%20the%20Israeli%20occupation%20forces.
They better hurry up and destroy all the farms too. Could be Hamas hidin in dem tater-holes
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Tulipslave]
#28644469 - 02/02/24 07:31 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'd be surprised if they have room for farms in Gaza.
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