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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#28643965 - 02/02/24 01:12 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Ok fellas, I got one pin from my bispo tub. Any tips? I have no clue what I’m doing.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
#28643966 - 02/02/24 01:13 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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V.L said: TTBVI are same as BVI, I sent one of my BVI print to Gordotek and as I explained him it was a guy named TamarindTreeBVI who found wild specimens and did the first wild prints Gordo called them TTBVI (so BVI = TTBVI even like any multi-spores some variations can occurs…)
That makes sense! I know BVI had been round a while and then suddenly this TTBVI pops up. I thought the story was it was found under a Tamarind tree or something.
Good to know though V.L. Thanks for dropping the knowledge!
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SwabMarley said: Appreciate your input bud. Thats BVI though which VL debunked in an earlier post as one and the same as TTBVI. What I’m thinking though is TTBVI is a different culture/Pheno and looks completely different on myc and grain. I’ve seen it before in Mak cultures and also different APE cultures. I may just be holding out hope but as I said. It smelt fine, broke up as it should….My BVI certainly didn’t look like this though so it does beg the question. I’ve just spawned some to bulk though so I guess we will see.
Appreciate your outlook as always Rev 
I was confused and had to do some digging and rereading. I have been trying to figure this out as well. Now I think I get what you are saying. They are the same species and "variety", but the ttbvi presents with very different phenos. Correct?
I was going on the assumption that it was all the same and the "tt" name just included a source info distinction. But it is more like a unique variety of cube that is genetically the same species but presents very differently like golden teacher versus TAT. Or Great Danes and Corgies. Right? I appreciate the clarification, because this one has been bugging me.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28643970 - 02/02/24 01:15 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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How long did it take? It could be an early pin.
Mine took two to four weeks to fruit.
Your surface conditions look good. Are you having to mist? How's your evaporation on the surface?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28643971 - 02/02/24 01:16 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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tree frog said: How long did it take? It could be an early pin.
Mine took two to four weeks to fruit.
Your surface conditions look good. Are you having to mist? How's your evaporation on the surface?
Not having to mist. It kept the same tiny little beads the whole time. Do they like a little more air?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28643972 - 02/02/24 01:17 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah, they really need some evaporation occuring is my understanding.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28643974 - 02/02/24 01:18 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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tree frog said: Yeah, they really need some evaporation occuring is my understanding.
Ok gotcha. I’ll let them breathe a little more 👍
Thanks!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] 1
#28643975 - 02/02/24 01:20 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Smellyhobbit said: Ok fellas, I got one pin from my bispo tub. Any tips? I have no clue what I’m doing.

Looking good in there 
I'd leave it at this stage and see how many more pins are popping maybe a bit more FAE.....have you flipped the lid yet?
....too slow, it's all said already.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#28643981 - 02/02/24 01:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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As of rn I’m a lid flipping fool
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] 3
#28643982 - 02/02/24 01:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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tree frog said: Yeah, they really need some evaporation occuring is my understanding.
Ok gotcha. I’ll let them breathe a little more 👍
Thanks!
For sure!
They're something else. I was reading yesterday they have a lot more norbaeocystin than other species. Like 7.5% vs 3% for potent TTBVI.
People have also posted fruits that hit 4% psilocybin on those hometests. So they're still very potent on that end.
The subjective effects for me has been more auditory, deeper, and less interest in the visuals. I don't tend to get auditory on any other psychedelic unless it's from anxiety (more psychosis like than interesting).
Going to test TTBVI today or tomorrow. Probably start at 0.5g. And I haven't tried Semps.
But for internal meditative work, I'm really liking Bisporus right now.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 3
#28643987 - 02/02/24 01:32 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Can anyone else confirm that bisporus are more fragile than the other pan species? I mean pans are all on the delicate side but the bisporus I grew so far are breaking as easily as psathyrella mushrooms. They also were falling over a lot. Mine grew really fast too and got quite big.
This gif I posted earlier in POTD was taken over the course of 48 hrs

A third of the mushrooms in the gif are falling over later on but I had to cut it short due to file size restrictions. I'm just amazed that the fruits are getting pumped up so fast while they are taking longer to pin initially. Makes it feel like they are even faster than the others.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28643993 - 02/02/24 01:36 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Mine were much less fragile than Tamps (your's remind me of how Tamps do me). And less fragile than TTBVI (which were fine compared to my Tamps, just sensitive to water drops).
But they stayed short and fat.
Also, they got a lot of fae and humidity. And were very small scale grows.
I wouldn't be surprised if they got taller and more fragile in a different environment.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28643998 - 02/02/24 01:37 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Well I’ve been hearing a lot of loud noises about how this new ‘TTBVI’ has a massively high reading on the scales of stuff and things.
I questioned its “familial line” if you would from just your run of the mill BVI aka and let’s give it its proper title British Virgin Island. A very reputable source (link and scuff because I’m lazy). Look, I’m REALLY fuckin wasted but will do a write up bwah
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
#28644000 - 02/02/24 01:40 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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VL said they were the same
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L] 1
#28644003 - 02/02/24 01:43 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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V.L said: TTBVI are same as BVI, I sent one of my BVI print to Gordotek and as I explained him it was a guy named TamarindTreeBVI who found wild specimens and did the first wild prints Gordo called them TTBVI (so BVI = TTBVI even like any multi-spores some variations can occurs…)
Found it. Suck my balls. Sorry
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley] 3
#28644007 - 02/02/24 01:45 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah, I think this TTBVI business is a bit blow up out of proportion and more of a hype.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28644011 - 02/02/24 01:47 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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The whole I think is sickQuote:
Baba Yaga said: Yeah, I think this TTBVI business is a bit blow up out of proportion and more of a hype.
TTVI blew off mah ballls and was very gentle….
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28644023 - 02/02/24 01:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Sorry, Quote:
Baba Yaga said: Can anyone else confirm that bisporus are more fragile than the other pan species? I mean pans are all on the delicate side but the bisporus I grew so far are breaking as easily as psathyrella mushrooms. They also were falling over a lot. Mine grew really fast too and got quite big.
This gif I posted earlier in POTD was taken over the course of 48 hrs

A third of the mushrooms in the gif are falling over later on but I had to cut it short due to file size restrictions. I'm just amazed that the fruits are getting pumped up so fast while they are taking longer to pin initially. Makes it feel like they are even faster than the others.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley] 5
#28644037 - 02/02/24 02:03 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I’ll be curious to see if the hype is warranted, I tend to err on the side of skepticism. Have ttbvi on grain as well I’ve eaten BVI several times. Thing is I did not think BVI had more potency than bisporus I’ve had hplc tested at 2.6%. Obviously pans are different but even in type localities of cubes potency isn’t seemingly varied by enormous factors except in the case of extensive work. Eg I’m not comparing variance between say b+ and PE but relative variance between batches of b+ or PE. I will be curious to see where ttbvi compares to BVI or tested bisporus.
Then again the comparison of cube potency variability is likely complete rubbish as well considering if I recall correctly pans employ a different pathway to psilocybin production, don’t quote me as I’m likely misremembering something or not expressing it in the correct manner. The home tests have shown to be on par within reason, with hplc testing though so who knows, some of those tests showing 6-7% just seem absurd to me… but I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28644096 - 02/02/24 02:34 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Have not noticed it being extremely fragile.. over multiple isolates and genetic lines and that only happened once(tipped over) - it produced a very large bisporus; i saved that isolate with thoughts of back crossing into it -the yield was horrid.. Fresh bispo fruits seem more brittle/ easier to break ttbvi, but not to an extreme degree.

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Baba Yaga said: Can anyone else confirm that bisporus are more fragile than the other pan species? I mean pans are all on the delicate side but the bisporus I grew so far are breaking as easily as psathyrella mushrooms. They also were falling over a lot. Mine grew really fast too and got quite big.
This gif I posted earlier in POTD was taken over the course of 48 hrs

A third of the mushrooms in the gif are falling over later on but I had to cut it short due to file size restrictions. I'm just amazed that the fruits are getting pumped up so fast while they are taking longer to pin initially. Makes it feel like they are even faster than the others.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28644128 - 02/02/24 02:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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3.A.M said: Got myself a few tubs of TTBVI going, last few got a bunch of what I guess we call overlay, upped my casing lime ratio to almost double in the hopes of avoiding it this time and they’re actually worse, what the hell?!
 Even halved my spawn ratio as well, these things just don’t give a fuck “~”
Have you tried fruiting them at spawn yet with a lot of FAE right from the start so the surface is drying slightly in a few spots. That usually reduces surface colonization a lot ime but knots are still showing up. When you try it then push one tub to the extreme where you start thinking this is too much and then wait and see what happens.
All my pans I’ve introduced fruiting at spawn, some that are stacked at the back of my space I’ve opened up a little more due to lack of air flow and a couple I opened up even more once I noticed it happening, every single one is a carpet of myc, my nec d is doing the same thing just not to the same degree, my casing must be wrong somehow, I was pretty pedantic about the measurements though, sigh, idk.
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