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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 13
#28642714 - 02/01/24 08:28 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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First TTBVI harvest. This is the tray that pinned along the edges.



Pretty nice for four cups of substrate.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Reishiman] 1
#28642745 - 02/01/24 09:06 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Great job tree frog! Thick stems.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 1
#28642756 - 02/01/24 09:20 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Well, after a few attempts, I decided to give pans another go after extensive reading and the success of others. I isolated some spores to agar of pan cambo Goliath and also got my hands on a few other cultures(TTBVI and Nec"d) and put them to wbs grain bags and jars. Surprisingly, my cambos were more aggressive to colonize the grain bag. So I did one 15q shoebox of Goliath and one NEC D. For substrate, I used 80 percent pasturized straw pellets and a grass lovers blend that I bought ages ago from a vendor that consisted of manure, coir, straw, vermiculite, and gypsum. Spawned at 1am sat night/Sunday morning. So, we are at 4.5 days now and I'm wondering how much longer I should wait to case these.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28642762 - 02/01/24 09:36 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stagger said: I wouldn't say I've had great results, but I've had some results using coir only on a few grows this past month. These were ttbvi, straw/manure on left, coir on the right
 And tropicalis, coir only, cased with verm/pumice

I searched the thread for pumice and found a post only 12 days old!
I was thinking of grabbing some course dental pumice to make casing. My thought was pumice has better evaporation rates and TTBVI is native to a volcanic island, so might prefer a volcanic glass for casing the way Tamps prefer sand.
What's your ratios/recipe? My current casing with peat/verm works fine, so I was thinking of just substituting half the verm for pumice. But you substituted for peat?
I'm also hesitant to use a lot of pumice in the mix, because the powdered dental stuff is expensive, and the garden stuff isn't the grain size I want. So, looking for a halfway point with it to start with.
tree frog, tbh I'm not sure what ratios I used of either on that casing. I'm not sure I'd even use pumice again actually and not really certain why I decided to try it in the first place. The vermiculite only casings were mostly tried just to see how lazy I can get away with being. I mostly stick to peat/verm/lime but I've began adding small amounts of perlite to that.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
#28642795 - 02/01/24 10:28 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks stagger. I already ordered some.
I think I'll play around with it in small amounts as a verm substitute. Like 50/45/5.
The grade I wanted wasn't cheap enough to be using as a replacement. But I am interested in its evaporative and mineral qualities, for BVI strains anyway.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 3
#28642933 - 02/01/24 01:14 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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CRUSHING MAN!!!
Beautiful.
Very interested in the pumice experiment 
2nd flush of Bama Magic

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MurphSmurf] 2
#28643207 - 02/01/24 05:00 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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does anyone know what these are? the mycelium on the plates turned yellowish like pan bisporus does but these fruits look nothing like pan bisp
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FriedEgg] 2
#28643228 - 02/01/24 05:27 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FriedEgg]
#28643361 - 02/01/24 08:06 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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does anyone know what these are? the mycelium on the plates turned yellowish like pan bisporus does but these fruits look nothing like pan bisp 
They could be starved for air and just getting spaghettified, second guess would be tamps but the caps and stems don’t really show that to me. I’ve had bisporus get all stringy with small caps like that before in low airflow spots. Got a picture of the mycelium?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] 2
#28643432 - 02/01/24 10:21 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Got myself a few tubs of TTBVI going, last few got a bunch of what I guess we call overlay, upped my casing lime ratio to almost double in the hopes of avoiding it this time and they’re actually worse, what the hell?!
 Even halved my spawn ratio as well, these things just don’t give a fuck “~”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 3.A.M] 1
#28643615 - 02/02/24 06:04 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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My overlay issue with them went away when I introduced exhaust to my Martha. Now you’re fruiting in a mono, so of course you can’t really do that. Only thing would be is offer more fae
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] 1
#28643636 - 02/02/24 06:42 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Is the mycelium on TTBVI pretty thick on grain? Im fairly sure these jars aren’t bacterial, just spawned one and it shook up and broke apart just fine and smelt fine. I’ve had bacterial jars in the past and they are an absolute nightmare to break apart, these just split apart as usual after a slight tap and shake. I’ve never seen this myc on grain, hence the reason for the question. If I’d never seen bispo myc on grains or a sub I’d swear it was mould but I know from experience the myc is light and whispy, almost like cobweb. Here’s a pic of one of the jars
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
#28643649 - 02/02/24 07:05 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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My most recent TTBVI looked similar to that on grain (millet). Had that amazing almond smell too upon spawning it.
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That was what I was thinking (hoping). Appreciate the input 
I’ve just spawned a quart so we’ll see what happens!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
#28643655 - 02/02/24 07:12 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I could get a comparison picture later if I remember. I have both on grain now. Ttbvi is definitely the exact opposite when it comes to mycelium haha
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] 1
#28643660 - 02/02/24 07:24 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Yeah if you could! I’m 99% sure it’s healthy but just not used to the way it is in grain or sub. Judging from an old plate it looks about right!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley] 1
#28643772 - 02/02/24 09:44 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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SwabMarley said: Is the mycelium on TTBVI pretty thick on grain? Im fairly sure these jars aren’t bacterial, just spawned one and it shook up and broke apart just fine and smelt fine. I’ve had bacterial jars in the past and they are an absolute nightmare to break apart, these just split apart as usual after a slight tap and shake. I’ve never seen this myc on grain, hence the reason for the question. If I’d never seen bispo myc on grains or a sub I’d swear it was mould but I know from experience the myc is light and whispy, almost like cobweb. Here’s a pic of one of the jars

I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but my bvi never pushed grain up on the glass like that. I would think that is bacterial. But I only have one tub of bvi under my belt, so it is not like I am any kind of expert.
  It was wispy, but grew all over the grains.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 2
#28643782 - 02/02/24 09:52 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Appreciate your input bud. Thats BVI though which VL debunked in an earlier post as one and the same as TTBVI. What I’m thinking though is TTBVI is a different culture/Pheno and looks completely different on myc and grain. I’ve seen it before in Mak cultures and also different APE cultures. I may just be holding out hope but as I said. It smelt fine, broke up as it should….My BVI certainly didn’t look like this though so it does beg the question. I’ve just spawned some to bulk though so I guess we will see.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 3.A.M]
#28643947 - 02/02/24 12:48 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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3.A.M said: Got myself a few tubs of TTBVI going, last few got a bunch of what I guess we call overlay, upped my casing lime ratio to almost double in the hopes of avoiding it this time and they’re actually worse, what the hell?!
 Even halved my spawn ratio as well, these things just don’t give a fuck “~”
Have you tried fruiting them at spawn yet with a lot of FAE right from the start so the surface is drying slightly in a few spots. That usually reduces surface colonization a lot ime but knots are still showing up. When you try it then push one tub to the extreme where you start thinking this is too much and then wait and see what happens.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley] 1
#28643957 - 02/02/24 01:04 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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SwabMarley said: Appreciate your input bud. Thats BVI though which VL debunked in an earlier post as one and the same as TTBVI. What I’m thinking though is TTBVI is a different culture/Pheno and looks completely different on myc and grain. I’ve seen it before in Mak cultures and also different APE cultures. I may just be holding out hope but as I said. It smelt fine, broke up as it should….My BVI certainly didn’t look like this though so it does beg the question. I’ve just spawned some to bulk though so I guess we will see.
Appreciate your outlook as always Rev 
Here's a TTBVI jar recovering from a shake. I don't know enough about different ways it can express. But the only mycelium I've seen get thick against the glass like that clean is oysters.

Also, mines setting pins again already. I harvested yesterday morning.

Stupid fast. This is a clone from Gordo's genetics. Which I was told is pretty stabilized.
Edited by tree frog (02/02/24 01:12 PM)
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