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First Time PF Tek, need advice :) * 1
    #28643285 - 02/01/24 06:40 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Hi guys!

I started my PF Tek jars about 50 days ago. They've been a bit slow but I think the jars were packed a little too tight plus its winter, so I expected them to be a little slow. I think they're nearing about the time to start fruiting conditions. Ive never done this before and I feel like there's only so much you can learn from online forums. So to all those with experience - how do these look??? Some of the verm layer has started to fall as the cake has shrunk. There seems to be cotton ball esque masses of mycelium - are these good? Are these a sign that they need something more? I turned them over today in hopes that'll help colonize the bottom. I haven't spotted any obvious signs of contaminations in any of my jars, except one (not pictured) that has a very obvious grey cobweb mold. Let me know if you spot anything off! Thank you all for your endless knowledge!! Ignore my cat making an appearance
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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: dsl719]
    #28643310 - 02/01/24 07:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Tbh, I've only done PF Tek once but some of those don't look optimal and 50 days is quite long but like you say, it has been cold. As long as a jar is all white and has been for a week or more, go ahead and birth and soak. You didn't say how you were fruiting them but a water tub instead of a SGFC would be recommended. I wouldn't shred those to bulk because if there is anything riding along side them, shredding will only hasten the growth of the nasties. There is a chance you will get something but its time to start a new project now.

And welcome to the rabbit hole, keep with it and enjoy.

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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: dsl719]
    #28643313 - 02/01/24 07:13 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Good looking cat you got there.

I'll defer to others here, but I see pink in a few of those first pics which is not the color of healthy mycelium.

50 days and only half colonized is another sign you've got contaminants interfering with the fungus you do want to grow.

You want to keep your pf jars upright so as not to disturb your dry verm layer, whose job it is to deter contams. That ship has sailed at this point, but keep it in mind for future reference.


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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: DeviantTex]
    #28643318 - 02/01/24 07:16 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Yeah, 50 days and not fully colonized isn't good. The PF Tek works better with the short half pint jars.

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    #28643319 - 02/01/24 07:18 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Worth noting: it is entirely possible to fruit a contaminated jar, if you keep your expectations very low and you're mainly doing it in a desperate grab for some fruits to clone to agar so you can kick the syringe habit. I tossed a lot of moldy jars and started over before I gave up and fruited a couple that I KNEW were hiding trich inside. They didn't produce much, but it was enough to clone something, and my life is better now.

My jars are better, too, after Shroomery advised me my verm was likely too coarse to do its job well. I ground it finer, and currently have 16 mold-free jars to birth next week. And then put in a water tub, which is srsly the way to go.


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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: dsl719]
    #28643320 - 02/01/24 07:18 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Did you make or purchase the PF jars and what did you inoculate them with? 7 weeks is a long time for 1/2 pints, even tall 1/2 pints. What do the lids look like?
What actual temperature range is your grow space? Mine is 15-19 Celsius. Things grow slowly but I’m not in any hurry. My 1/2 pint wide mouth jars will pin in 5-6 weeks if everything is correct.
Post a picture of the very obvious grey mold.
Nice cat. Love the little beasties.

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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: dsl719]
    #28643370 - 02/01/24 08:25 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

They look Ok. Good enough to birth soon.

Couple things, the substrate looked too wet and compacted, which is likely why it took 50 days to colonize. It should only take about 30 days.

Secondly, dont flip your jars upside-down like that. Not a good practice to do, it can mess up the top filter layer.

Other than that, just be patient i guesd and wait for full colonization.


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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: The Tao] * 3
    #28643609 - 02/02/24 05:58 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

thanks for the advice. i’ll do water tub instead of SGFC. i’ve learned so much after starting the pf tek (i made them) and will probably from now on use grain and agar. when i first started i just looked up how to grow mushrooms and pf tek was the first thing i saw. it wasn’t until after starting these that i fell into the rabbit hole. since then, ive got a pressure cooker and a still air box and a better idea of what to do. these jars are yeti but i also have some golden teacher on an agar plate. and i wont flip the jars anymore lol. the jar with the grey mold is gone but it was definitely a grey mass in comparison with the white mycelium. the weather where i live is all over the place, like one night it’ll be below freezing and the next day 70 outside (25 ish celsius i think). i turn on the heat when its too cold but i’d say it’s probably average around 70 degrees F in my apartment. once again, thank you from me & my cat mr.benjamin

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Re: First Time PF Tek, need advice :) [Re: dsl719]
    #28643632 - 02/02/24 06:33 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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