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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28642567 - 02/01/24 01:58 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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So it sounds like more propaganda bullshit. Looks like they proved there were tunnels but because they had already blown them up and shit CNN couldn't confirm they actually went under the cemetery and then someone from freepalistine.com or something wrote a deceptively worded article about it. Doesn't make sense what does make sense is that apparently they've been launching rockets from cemeteries for years and that the idf stated weeks and weeks before they were raised that they kept coming under fire from that exact cemetery and that when they dug the new cemetery they would use it as an opportunity to hide tunnels in there. Then when the IDF finally secured the area the Palestinians could go look they desecrated our bodies like you know they planned the whole time. It's all bullshit what don't you people get? It doesn't end.
https://scrippsnews.com/stories/mapping-the-destruction-of-cemeteries-in-gaza/
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28642570 - 02/01/24 02:02 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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A clandestine infiltration with disguises is not something that should influence opinion about healthcare. But I don’t know if it won’t.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: So it sounds like more propaganda bullshit. Looks like they proved there were tunnels but because they had already blown them up and shit CNN couldn't confirm they actually went under the cemetery and then someone from freepalistine.com or something wrote a deceptively worded article about it. Doesn't make sense what does make sense is that apparently they've been launching rockets from cemeteries for years and that the idf stated weeks and weeks before they were raised that they kept coming under fire from that exact cemetery and that when they dug the new cemetery they would use it as an opportunity to hide tunnels in there. Then when the IDF finally secured the area the Palestinians could go look they desecrated our bodies like you know they planned the whole time. It's all bullshit what don't you people get? It doesn't end.
https://scrippsnews.com/stories/mapping-the-destruction-of-cemeteries-in-gaza/
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Scripps News has analyzed these visuals and found military vehicle tracks in the razed cemeteries. And satellite images highlight a pattern for some of these cemeteries: Clearance efforts begin as IDF vehicles approach, and those vehicles enter the graveyards shortly after they're cleared.
Multiple cemeteries throughout Gaza have been either partially or fully destroyed as the IDF has cut a path through Gaza City and Khan Younis.
Israel has blamed Hamas for launching rockets from cemeteries in Gaza, including an incident in October that landed near the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital.
In December, a video shared on social media purported to show a rocket launch site buried in a Gaza graveyard. Still, it doesn't explain why large portions of cemeteries have been cleared by the IDF.
The IDF reportedly declined the New York Times' request for comment about multiple cemeteries' destruction.
Visual evidence shows the practice is continuing.
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Specifically, some were disguised as doctors and nurses. Can you not see how that will create distrust in legitimate healthcare workers?
Why undermine the institution at all when civilian disguises should have been sufficient?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28642582 - 02/01/24 02:38 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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If you can't understand that hiding tunnels and rocket launchers in a cemetary makes it a legitimate military target than idk what to tell you. Did they then go overboard in destroying the Graves and then park the vehicles on it. Probably.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28642586 - 02/01/24 02:46 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I absolutely can see how that can make people not trust healthcare workers. “What if this doctor is secretly an assassin?” I’m not trying to diminish what they did. It was espionage during wartime.
They needed access with no questions. Civilians are under more scrutiny.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: If you can't understand that hiding tunnels and rocket launchers in a cemetary makes it a legitimate military target than idk what to tell you. Did they then go overboard in destroying the Graves and then park the vehicles on it. Probably. 
It's amazing how anyone can think 16 cemeteries are legitimate military targets, or areas for the idf to setup a base camp. Especially when the tunnel claims are unsubstantiated.
I guess that's the difference here though, everything the IDF claims is a military target, you seem to accept, no matter what, and the same excuse is used in every case and accepted as true in every case no matter the circumstances. It's wild.
I have no doubt there are numerous legitimate military targets, but not 16 cemeteries, and not nigh on every building in Gaza.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly] 1
#28642904 - 02/01/24 12:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Secretary Austin just held a press conference. It looks like the retaliation attack will start soon.
This shit is just so dumb. Your troops are illegally occupying Syria. The Iraqi government asked you to leave, and you ignored them. Of course people are going to attack them. And the attacks will keep happening even after your retaliation.
And they have the gall to complain about the Houthis while they give Israel cart blanche to slaughter as many as they like, and supply them the weapons to do it.
The only way out is to leave Iraq and Syria. We will be forced to do this eventually in any case.
It's all just so stupid. We're close to reaching rock bottom with our foreign policy at this point.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28642963 - 02/01/24 01:36 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: When asked what Biden’s message to Arab-American voters in Michigan will be, Press Secretary responds “Israel has a right to defend itself.”
https://x.com/halalflow/status/1752802130740588813?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw
Do these people even want to win elections?
Obviously not. Their efforts are more focused on cancelling elections than winning them.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28643006 - 02/01/24 02:03 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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We know Hamas has built tunnels under some hospitals, so why wouldn't they build them under cemeteries and under areas that are "off-limits"? It's their brand.
"Biden sanctions Israeli settlers accused of attacking Palestinians and peace activists in West Bank"
https://www.kiro7.com/news/politics/biden-sanctions/JL6FZWIWDRY3KZ3POTPYR34DQM/
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28643037 - 02/01/24 02:17 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Obviously not. Their efforts are more focused on cancelling elections than winning them.
What elections are being cancelled ?
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: We know Hamas has built tunnels under some hospitals, so why wouldn't they build them under cemeteries and under areas that are "off-limits"? It's their brand.
"Biden sanctions Israeli settlers accused of attacking Palestinians and peace activists in West Bank"
https://www.kiro7.com/news/politics/biden-sanctions/JL6FZWIWDRY3KZ3POTPYR34DQM/
It's weird to unilaterally generalise the idea of tunnels to mulch even cemeteries, especially when there isn't evidence of tunnels being underneath the cemeteries, let alone terrorist command centres.
Imagine if the US made these claims in Iraq, it'd be as see through as ever.
And nice link?
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Biden sanctions Israeli settlers accused of attacking Palestinians and peace activists in West Bank
WASHINGTON — (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday issued an executive order that targets Israeli settlers in the West Bank who have been accused of attacking Palestinians and Israeli peace activists in the occupied territory, imposing financial sanctions and visa bans in an initial round against four individuals.
Those settlers were involved in acts of violence, as well as threats and attempts to destroy or seize Palestinian property, according to the order. The penalties aim to block the four from using the U.S. financial system and bar American citizens from dealing with them. U.S. officials said they were evaluating whether to punish others involved in attacks that have intensified during the Israel-Hamas war.
Biden's order is a rare step against America’s closest ally in the Mideast who, Biden says, has the right to defend itself. But the Democratic president has pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to show greater restraint in its military operations aimed at rooting out Hamas. Netanyahu denounced the U.S. penalties.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
#28643100 - 02/01/24 03:13 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Obviously not. Their efforts are more focused on cancelling elections than winning them.
What elections are being cancelled ?
Democratic primary election.
They are also actively trying to throw the Republican frontrunner off the ballot. Where have you been at?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28643104 - 02/01/24 03:18 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: If you can't understand that hiding tunnels and rocket launchers in a cemetary makes it a legitimate military target than idk what to tell you. Did they then go overboard in destroying the Graves and then park the vehicles on it. Probably. 
It's amazing how anyone can think 16 cemeteries are legitimate military targets, or areas for the idf to setup a base camp. Especially when the tunnel claims are unsubstantiated.
I guess that's the difference here though, everything the IDF claims is a military target, you seem to accept, no matter what, and the same excuse is used in every case and accepted as true in every case no matter the circumstances. It's wild.
I have no doubt there are numerous legitimate military targets, but not 16 cemeteries, and not nigh on every building in Gaza.
The cemeteries are open spaces in an otherwise dense urban area. It makes sense that they might be used as rocket launch sites. There are only so many good places to do that. I somehow doubt this was some fiendish plot to desecrate all their cemeteries. That seems kind of pointless.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28643149 - 02/01/24 04:09 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Obviously not. Their efforts are more focused on cancelling elections than winning them.
What elections are being cancelled ?
Democratic primary election.
They are also actively trying to throw the Republican frontrunner off the ballot. Where have you been at?
Because he shouldn’t be allowed to hold an elected position. He instigated an insurrection. That’s why he has been removed from the ballot in multiple states. He had an electors plot that was being carried out in those states. You cannot put somebody who has tried to steal the Democratic process away from its voters on the ballot.
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GenesisCorrupted said: Because he shouldn’t be allowed to hold an elected position. He instigated an insurrection. That’s why he has been removed from the ballot in multiple states. He had an electors plot that was being carried out in those states. You cannot put somebody who has tried to steal the Democratic process away from its voters on the ballot.
Trump didn't "instigate an insurrection". That "insurrection" didn't even rise to the level of a full blown riot.
I don't believe Trump will actually be off the ballot in any of those states, when all is said and done, anyway. Either way, the point still stands, Democrats would rather take their opponents out of the race, than try to beat them. That goes for the primary, and the general election.
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#28643164 - 02/01/24 04:19 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Bruh, people died. A retired cop gouged an active cops eyeball out with his thumb. They erected a gallows and then tried to go in and get some people to hang. Just because they were really bad at it doesn't mean they didn't try. I'm not even saying that insurrection is inherently wrong or bad or whatever but that was for sure an insurrection.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
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#28643169 - 02/01/24 04:35 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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GenesisCorrupted said: Because he shouldn’t be allowed to hold an elected position. He instigated an insurrection. That’s why he has been removed from the ballot in multiple states. He had an electors plot that was being carried out in those states. You cannot put somebody who has tried to steal the Democratic process away from its voters on the ballot.
Trump didn't "instigate an insurrection". That "insurrection" didn't even rise to the level of a full blown riot.
I don't believe Trump will actually be off the ballot in any of those states, when all is said and done, anyway. Either way, the point still stands, Democrats would rather take their opponents out of the race, than try to beat them. That goes for the primary, and the general election.
Enough Republicans disagree with you that they got together and sued to get trump off the ballot. And at least one court agreed with those Republicans, and removed trump from the ballot.
Those damn Democrats, not stopping Republicans from suing to keep trump off the ballot.
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