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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69]
#28642690 - 02/01/24 07:49 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Can i use Crack's No prep Millet Tek for preparing red, unhulled millet?
He's using white millet which is softer compared to red, afaik.
I will use a pc that reaches 10 - 12 PSI max.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69]
#28642713 - 02/01/24 08:20 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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morningWood said: I was testing out an old lc. Had a lot of bacteria, slimy pools. But some mycelium grew. Is it safe to take transfers when the mycelium has grown over the bacteria??

Maybe. You can take leading edge sample and transfer but there's also a possibility that the bacteria can become enmeshed with the mycelium in an almost symbiotic nature. Ur dishes and jars will look ok but then when you try to spawn to bulk it just gets overrun with unhealthy mycelium and rots.
Thank you!!! This is what I was really curious about. I probably will try transferring, but this isn't something I really want to save.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: morningWood]
#28642719 - 02/01/24 08:36 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Plucked about 290g from this shoebox of B+ last Friday, I've been misting daily when I remember. Should I be seeing actual pins yet for flush 2? Are those more knots or am I just bugging? It's shrunk quite a bit in the box, so I'm not sure if it's just spent, or I'm not misting often enough. Did I fuck up letting it drop so many spores? With the last two boxes I made with APE spawn I got 3-4 flushes out of each one, and pins were popping up before I'd cleared the large fruit out.
  
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra]
#28642784 - 02/01/24 10:17 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Can i use Crack's No prep Millet Tek for preparing red, unhulled millet?
He's using white millet which is softer compared to red, afaik.
I will use a pc that reaches 10 - 12 PSI max.
Never mind, i won't use this tek.
Seems like soaking the millet prior to pcing is superior.
I found this in a 20 year old thread and it makes sense:
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If you just put dry seed and water into a jar, several things happen.
1. The water content is not evenly distributed. You have more moisture at the bottom and less at the top. Just shaking doesn't cause the dryer kernels to absorb more water, it just coats them in water.
2. You have dormant endospores (contams!) that may survive pressure cooking. These are tough grains and the super heated steam may not enter and evenly heat everything. A few endospores can spell disaster.
3. You have to thoroughly shake every jar in your attempt to even out the moisture content. This is a lot of work for many jars.
Soaking dry bird seed for 24-48 hours prior to PC'ng has the following advantages over the preceeding issues:
1. Water content is optimal and evenly distributed. Not worrying about measuring or getting ratios right.
2. You have germinated the majority of endospores that are now very susceptible to steam sterilization.
3. No shaking. Dump soaked grain into jars, PC, let cool, and you are ready.
Soaking the grain is the easiest method. Its not a matter of opinion. There are no downsides to it, other then the 24-48 hour wait.
What do you think?
Another question: Should i let the millet let dry after soaking or put it in the jars still wet?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
#28642793 - 02/01/24 10:27 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thank you SWBZA and the others that responded to my βhow to get LC to agarβ question.
SWBZA I appreciate your detailed response! I try not to use syringes. For me they arenβt simple to work with - too many things to maintain and have ready when needed.
A thought regarding the gush of liquid when you push the plungerβ¦ Iβve read in various posts to first pull back the plunger just a smidgen.
Maybe someone can explain HOW (to pull a plunger back before releasing the syringe contents ie, preventing that first gush). I would think there is a HOW to prevent the risk of contamination?
At any rate, give it a try.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28642815 - 02/01/24 11:00 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I use Yoshi's low prep for millet without any issues.
I think that #2 in those lists have been thoroughly debunked, but is still a persistent belief among cultivators. No shaking is nice, but adding 24 to 48 hours plus the required drying time to the process is a big fat nope for my work flow.
If you do not dry the seed/grain before it goes into the PC and it is also fully hydrated, you will get a ton of burst grain. That won't prevent healthy growth with clean spawn, but it makes shaking and breaking up spawn nearly impossible. Even in low prep/no prep, too much water will lead to that same issue.
Either way will work, I just prefer low prep and some of the reasons listed in that post are misleading.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28642823 - 02/01/24 11:12 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thank you!
I must have missed Yoshis tek, reading it right now.
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Threads2theSoul said: Thank you SWBZA and the others that responded to my βhow to get LC to agarβ question.
SWBZA I appreciate your detailed response! I try not to use syringes. For me they arenβt simple to work with - too many things to maintain and have ready when needed.
A thought regarding the gush of liquid when you push the plungerβ¦ Iβve read in various posts to first pull back the plunger just a smidgen.
Maybe someone can explain HOW (to pull a plunger back before releasing the syringe contents ie, preventing that first gush). I would think there is a HOW to prevent the risk of contamination?
At any rate, give it a try.
Cool, I like trying new stuff. I'll do some searching on the how as well because sucking in air does sound like a contam risk. Easiest solution is probably taking my thumb to the gym 
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
#28642878 - 02/01/24 12:22 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Got some really nice looking rhizo growth on this plate, but noticed just before putting it into my SAB that it has a nasty looking blue shit... You guys think its safe to take a cutting from the clean side? Nothing else is in the SAB.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
#28642879 - 02/01/24 12:24 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Should i do anything with the much bigger fruits to stop overcrowding or nutrients?? 
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28642908 - 02/01/24 12:54 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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@Yahra, I've been using Yoshis no prep for red and white millet with great results. Seems a pretty warm shake, ie a couples hours cool down in the PC, does a little better busting up the chunks but even if you cant get them all broken up it doesn't really matter. Once they colonize they will do fine, I've had to do some by hand when spawning but it all worked out good.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bajazly]
#28642913 - 02/01/24 12:57 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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How do these look? I had a nice first flush of golden teachers. These little ones I left alone. But theyβve been like this for a few days now. Should I remove them all and soak the substrate or something? Iβd like to get a couple more flushes.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HazMatt]
#28642923 - 02/01/24 01:09 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Yup. Looks like they are mostly aborts, but you have lots of primordia coming behind them. I would pluck them all and give it a heavy mist and watch for fresh pins in a few days.
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Blueberry Muffin said: Q: What is the minimum amount of spawn where one would consider a monotub instead of a shoebox for spawning to bulk?
I think five is around standard for a 50+ mono. I'm running two and three in 27qts.
You can get away with one in anything if spawning to coir with clean grains. But you'll get fewer and less full flushes and it will take longer to colonize. At which point a shoebox is better for the smaller footprint.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Changed] 1
#28642974 - 02/01/24 01:45 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Changed said: Got some really nice looking rhizo growth on this plate, but noticed just before putting it into my SAB that it has a nasty looking blue shit... You guys think its safe to take a cutting from the clean side? Nothing else is in the SAB.

That plates contam has sporulated so youβll want to be mindful to clean your SAB afterwards before another session. Your good to pull from the healthy other side for a transfer. May have to do more transfers if anything rides along to clean it up.
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It's better that jars aren't submerged in the water if you pc them, right?
I wonder which height my jars should have if my soon to arrive pc is 23cm in height.
I want to use a trivet in order to rise the jars above water level.
I can get 870ml jars which are 14.2cm tall and i can get 1053ml jars which are 17.7cm tall.
I think it's best to use the 870ml jars, what do you think? Or should i use even shorter jars?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28643018 - 02/01/24 02:08 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Yahra said: It's better that jars arn't submerged in the water if you pc them, right?
I wonder which height my jars should have if my soon to arrive pc is 23cm in height.
I want to use a trivet in order to rise the jars above water level.
I can get 870ml jars which are 14.2cm tall and i can get 1053ml jars which are 17.7cm tall.
I think it's best to use the 870ml jars, what do you think? Or should i use even shorter jars?
It doesnβt matter as long as the water canβt flow into the top where venting occurs. Technically speaking, a trivet is unnecessary as well although I use the .125in one that came with my presto to prevent hot spots and bouncing jars.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
#28643022 - 02/01/24 02:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I am confused. I've read that the steam sterilizes, not the water.
Did i fall for outdated information again?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] 2
#28643024 - 02/01/24 02:12 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Yahra said: I am confused. I've read that the steam sterilizes, not the water.
Did i fall for outdated information again?

Steam will enter your jars to transfer heat to whateverβs in it much more rapidly than air or water. The outside of the jar is fairly irrelevant. Thatβs why venting is so important.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: San Pedro Girl]
#28643031 - 02/01/24 02:15 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Ah, that makes sense. Thank you!
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