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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28564154 - 12/01/23 06:05 PM (5 months, 14 days ago)

Interesting.  Good for the jury.
Yea, four years for this crime is a joke.
I can't believe the prosecution psychologist agreed with the defense that she was in a marijuana-induced psychosis. 
I feel like something nefarious happened here, involving pro-drug-war government officials/police.

And yea, you're right, she chose to listen to the voices and kill.

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28564267 - 12/01/23 07:20 PM (5 months, 14 days ago)

Update ...

Bryn Spejcher found guilty in cannabis-induced killing of man she dated
December 1, 2023 - vcstar.com

After deliberating for less than four hours Friday, a jury found Bryn Spejcher guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the 2018 killing of Chad O’Melia of Thousand Oaks.

When the verdict was read, Spejcher dropped her head to the table and cried quietly. She later broke out in loud sobs after her lawyers asked the jurors to confirm their unanimous verdict, one by one. The panel had heard evidence and arguments since Nov. 9.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge Anthony Sabo denied a motion by prosecutors to have Spejcher remanded into custody. She left the courtroom with her lawyers and her family.

Spejcher, 32, will be back in court Monday for a separate hearing on four enhancements to the manslaughter conviction, including allegations that she used a deadly weapon and that her crime involved great violence. She will be free on bail until that hearing is complete.

She waived her right to a jury trial on the enhancements, so that portion of the case will be decided by Judge David Worley, who presided over Spejcher’s jury trial. Worley was unavailable Friday so Sabo filled in for the verdict.

Involuntary manslaughter typically carries a sentence of up to about four years in state prison, though the enhancements could increase Spejcher’s sentence.

On the night she killed O’Melia, stabbing both him and herself repeatedly with kitchen knives, Spejcher was in what both defense and prosecution experts agreed was a severe psychotic episode triggered by marijuana she smoked from O’Melia’s bong. Prosecutors reduced the charge against her from murder to manslaughter due to those expert opinions about her mental state.

O’Melia was 26 when he was killed. He was from Santa Clarita and had graduated from Chico State University. He lived in a condo in Thousand Oaks with two roommates and his dog and was working at an accounting firm and studying to be a certified public accountant.

He met Spejcher at a dog park in the spring of 2018. They had been dating for a few weeks when she came over on the night of May 27. She stabbed him to death a little after midnight.

Sean O’Melia, Chad O’Melia’s father, attended the entire jury trail and many pretrial hearings. He said he was grateful for the hard work that prosecutors and police put in but wouldn't call the outcome “justice.”

“I just want my son back, and that’s not going to happen,” he said outside the courtroom after the verdict was delivered.

Spejcher’s defense revolved around the idea that she was “involuntarily intoxicated,” and she claimed O’Melia had pressured and intimidated her into taking the last bong hit. The jurors did not agree.

“Ultimately, there are only people that have taken a loss here. There’s no winning here,” Sean O’Melia said. “At the same time, I think the first impact to me and my family was the loss of our son, and the next thing that occurred was what we had to go through listening to … all the derogatory remarks about somebody that we had just lost.”

Sean O'Melia filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Spejcher in 2020. It has been on hold until the end of her criminal case.

Two pictures of Bryn Spejcher

The jury's swift verdict arrived on the first day of its deliberations. The day before, jurors heard closing arguments from the prosecutor and from Spejcher’s attorney.

The prosecution portrayed Spejcher as a callous, narcissistic party girl who just wanted to get high the night she killed O’Melia, while the defense described her as “a very responsible young woman” who had no idea smoking pot could trigger violent psychosis.

With no disagreement about whether she killed O’Melia or whether her psychosis was real, the trial revolved around the question of whether her cannabis intoxication was voluntary.

Under California criminal law, people are responsible for their actions when impaired by alcohol or drugs unless their intoxication was involuntary. According to the jury instructions in Spejcher’s trial, “involuntary intoxication” could mean she took the drug unknowingly, took it due to “force, duress, fraud or trickery" or took it without knowing it could produce such intoxicating effects.

Robert Schwartz, Spejcher’s defense attorney, argued to the jury Thursday that multiple legal definitions of “involuntary intoxication” applied in this case. He said O’Melia pressured Spejcher to take a second, oversized bong hit and she did it because she felt intimidated by him, though O'Melia didn’t threaten her or use physical force.

Schwartz also said Spejcher couldn’t have known the weed would cause a psychotic episode because she had only consumed cannabis a handful of times in her life and had only gotten mildly high once. And he said “trickery” applied as well because she had no idea what exactly was in O’Melia’s bong when he put in front of her face, full of smoke.

There were no drugs other than marijuana found in O’Melia’s condo. Tests from 2018 of the marijuana that was found, both in a container in his bedroom and as burned residue in the bong, were not conclusive as to its concentration of THC, the psychoactive compound in cannabis.

Spejcher’s attorneys argued the cannabis she smoked was probably the same stuff O’Melia had ordered from an unlicensed medical marijuana delivery service about a week earlier: a strain called OG Kush with a THC content of 31.8%. That’s a relatively high level of THC, and on its website, the now-defunct delivery service warned potential buyers that strain was meant for “high tolerance patients only.” Spejcher’s defense team also called expert witnesses who testified that a concentrated form of cannabis could have been added to that weed, making it even stronger.

“Who knew the contents of the bong? Bryn didn’t know. Chad knew,” Schwartz told the jury. “Who purchased the marijuana? Who loaded the marijuana? Who prepared the marijuana? It was Chad. … She had no reaction at all to the first bong hit, so why in the world would she expect that when he pressured her to take another, that anything different would happen?”

In her closing argument, prosecutor Audry Nafziger called Spejcher’s contention that she didn’t like marijuana and didn’t want to get high that night “a false narrative.” Nafziger pointed to texts between Spejcher and her friends from the months leading up to O’Melia’s death, which included multiple texts from Spejcher about being drunk and once missing a morning of work due to a hangover. There were also texts from Spejcher about consuming edible forms of cannabis.

“This is a young woman who was living a lifestyle of getting drunk, passing out, missing work, and her decision to become intoxicated on May 28 resulted in the vicious and violent death of Chad O’Melia,” Nafziger said.

Nafziger told the jury there is no evidence O’Melia put anything other than “regular old marijuana” in the bong he prepared for Spejcher. She also said it’s implausible that O’Melia “made her” inhale from the bong, because Spejcher is a strong, assertive, professional woman — she holds a doctoral degree and worked as an audiologist — and was “the boss” in her relationship with O’Melia.

“She was not afraid of Chad O’Melia,” Spejcher said. “Her newfound fear is fabricated. She’s trying to save her own skin. … Anyone can point the finger at someone else and say, ‘He made me do it.’ She’s very good at blaming other people for her problems.”

Nafziger also said Spejcher didn’t show any remorse when she testified in her own defense on Tuesday.

“What we saw on the witness stand was narcissism on full display,” Nafziger said. “It was the ‘me, me, me’ show. … She had tears for herself, but none for Chad, no remorse, no compassion.”

Schwartz called Nafziger’s description of Spejcher “character assassination” and an attempt to “dirty up” the defendant. Character witnesses described her as honest and nonviolent, and she devoted her career to helping people who have hearing loss, as Spejcher herself does.

“The person who’s been depicted to you by the prosecution would be unrecognizable to anyone who knows her well,” Schwartz told the jury.

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 2
    #28565282 - 12/02/23 01:22 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)

Og kush didnt kill tht dude.  She did


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28565526 - 12/02/23 04:26 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)

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I’m not the person who did a crime. I don’t have to prove it.
You’re the person making claims that you believe the psychiatrist. You should prove to me that she actually did go insane from marijuana. Because those psychiatrist can’t.
It does not matter to me that they were on opposite sides of the room. That would make even more sense. This would be a better attempt to further legitimize the false claims being made.

How do you not understand how bribery and lobbying works?

Her charges were reduced because she’s a white woman…

I’m not gonna prove that one for you either so don’t ask me too.

If that person had been any other color. I guarantee she would not have gotten her charges reduced.

This is propaganda of the lowest possible tier.
I can’t believe you’re trying to defend it this hard.

There is no such thing as marijuana induced psychosis.
There never was!
Marijuana madness is a marketing tool used by a racist government.
It also does not exist!

They are the same. How do you not know that?
They are the same Fake boondoggle nonsense propaganda tool that has been used since the early 60s to combat peoples personal freedoms.
:fuckthisshit:
I like my freedom!
I’m not letting some psychopath take it away from me.




You got some real patience.  Generic hero is just that, generic.. I’ve seen this “prove it” “I love science” shtick many a time.  Don’t even waste your energy


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie]
    #28569214 - 12/05/23 03:17 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

'Psychotic' killer remains free, gets to spend Xmas and New Year's with family. Sentencing set for January 23rd ...

Thousand Oaks Woman Convicted In Cannabis Killing Will Remain Free Pending Sentencing
December 4, 2023 - KVTA

Updated--A Thousand Oaks woman will remain free pending sentencing over the objection of prosecutors after the judge found that two of the five special allegations and enhancements against her were not true.

A jury Friday convicted 32-year-old Bryn Spejcher of Thousand Oaks of involuntary manslaughter in the cannabis-induced killing of 26-year-old Chad O'Melia on Memorial Day 2018.

Several special allegations and enhancements were not decided by the jury and were decided Monday by the judge in what's known as a "court trial" where the judge acts as the jury.

The judge found the special allegations of use of a deadly weapon and that the crime was a serious felony were not true.

The judge however found true that it involved great violence and that the defendant engaged in violent conduct, and was armed with and used a weapon.

His decisions will determine where and for how long she might be locked up.

The judge set sentencing for January 23rd and again rejected a request by the prosecution that she be jailed now pending sentencing.

She remains free on bail.

Both sides in this case agreed that she acted under the influence of a cannabis-induced psychosis and so the killing was involuntary manslaughter.

But the prosecution maintained that even though the marijuana made her unaware of what she was doing, she bears some responsibility for having used it in the first place.


Video below from NewsNation ...

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie]
    #28569684 - 12/05/23 10:36 AM (5 months, 10 days ago)

I think that’s one of the first time I’ve heard of a violent murderer getting to spend New Year’s with their family.
I guess we just get to Hope she doesn’t escape. Because this would definitely be the perfect opportunity to do that.
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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
    #28570260 - 12/05/23 05:28 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

This story makes me absolutely sick.
The judge found she didn't use a deadly weapon?  How the FUCK are knives not a deadly weapon?!

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28570291 - 12/05/23 05:43 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

I bet her ex-boyfriend would think it’s a deadly weapon…

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28570706 - 12/05/23 09:37 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

This judge has a lifetime, 15 or 10 year job impunity to free murderers? The corruption in the USA is so thorough.

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: DonJuan7]
    #28589210 - 12/19/23 12:43 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

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Okay, so ALL of the evidence is the following:

1. Tested positive for THC
2. Video of her acting possessed.
3. Psychological interviews/testing that concluded in her having psychosis.

Did I word #3 correctly?  Did the interviews/tests conclude general psychosis or a more specific marijuana-induced psychosis?
What is the "nitty gritty" you speak of?  Her actual answers to the questions on the tests/interviews?




i don't know what all of the evidence is. i don't know the specifics beyond what i've already stated. the nitty gritty would be something like the doctor's notes and the specifics of whatever tests she was put through. we do know the result of this testing and interview process. "the state made the controversial shift in charges based on the scientific opinion of their expert" https://lawandcrime.com/crime/woman-who-became-acutely-psychotic-after-smoking-marijuana-and-then-stabbed-a-man-108-times-before-trying-to-kill-herself-is-convicted-of-involuntary-manslaughter/


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Obviously, you need to never touch marijuana or shrooms or any psychedelic drug unless you want to end up like the girl in this story.  I wonder if the girl in this story was like you in that she knew weed made her feel weird, yet she used it anyways?




"Schwartz also said Spejcher couldn’t have known the weed would cause a psychotic episode, because she had only consumed cannabis a handful of times and had only gotten mildly high once."


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I have ADHD, depression and anxiety. It is not widely known but "just" depression and anxiety can cause people to have transient psychotic symptoms and/or delusions when under high levels of stress or other risk factors. (Of which marijuana is a well known one -- I can cite sources for this if you doubt it.)




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Yes, let's see those sources.



i got you.
"There is no one cause of psychosis. Psychosis appears to result from a complex combination of genetic risk, differences in brain development, and exposure to stressors or trauma. Psychosis may be a symptom of a mental illness, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or severe depression. However, a person can experience psychosis and never be diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other disorder."

from same article:
"Other possible causes of psychosis include sleep deprivation, certain prescription medications, and the misuse of alcohol or drugs. A mental illness, such as schizophrenia, is typically diagnosed by excluding these other causes." "A qualified mental health professional (such as a psychologist, psychiatrist, or social worker) can provide a thorough assessment and accurate diagnosis." https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/understanding-psychosis

here's another source
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3283146/



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Seriously, one of the psychologists you linked is Kris Mohandie, the guy that worked on the high profile OJ Simpson trial? They are workin on this case too?

So in other words, the crazy girl will get off practically scott free just like OJ the murderer, and write a book about how she stabbed him over a hundred times in 15 years? WTF, lol. Ok yeah, then that is an even bigger conflict of interest..




sigh... kris mohandie is not listed as a member of the defense in the oj simpson trial. he was the negotiator that got oj to surrender. oj is said to have gotten off because the defense played to the anti-lapd feelings of the "majority black" jury. https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1995/11/dunne199511

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Since the jury came back with a guilty verdict so quickly, I don't think they bought any of the defense's BS. Soon we'll find out what the sentence is. Even if she gets the maximum four years, she is getting off way too easy. It's possible she could get less, but I doubt that.

But even if someone hears voices telling them to kill, that doesn't mean they have to listen to them. She had a choice, and chose to kill.





"What does the term psychosis mean?

Psychosis refers to a deficit in reality testing—the ability to differentiate self-generated stimuli (e.g., thoughts, imagery, and feelings) from external stimuli (i.e., perceptions) and assign appropriate meaning to experiences—with a lack of insight regarding the deficit." Joshua J. Rodgers, Benjamin L. Weinstein, in Neurology Secrets (Sixth Edition), 2017

people with depression don't have to be depressed, they just need to make the choice to not be depressed. ezpz

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You got some real patience.  Generic hero is just that, generic.. I’ve seen this “prove it” “I love science” shtick many a time.  Don’t even waste your energy




interesting, i've seen the ""prove it" "i love science" shtick"" shtick many a time.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero]
    #28589216 - 12/19/23 12:51 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

:havesomescience:

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28632250 - 01/23/24 03:52 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

Update. A complete travesty of justice ...

No prison time for Bryn Spejcher, 100 hours community service and two years probation for killing her boyfriend
January 23, 2024 - VC Star

After a jury found her guilty in December of involuntary manslaughter in a killing triggered by cannabis psychosis, Bryn Spejcher was sentenced Tuesday to two years probation and no prison time.

The sentence drew sobs of relief from Spejcher and her loved ones while family members of the victim, 26-year-old Chad Melia of Thousand Oaks, exclaimed in shock and anger. “Oh my God!” they said.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge David Worley said his decision was based on the lack of culpability, asserting the “senseless” killing early the morning of May 28, 2018, was propelled by the psychotic episode that experts for the prosecution and defense attributed to the bong hits of marijuana Spejcher and O’Melia smoked.

“From that point forward, she had no control over her actions,” Worley said before announcing probation and a suspended prison sentence of four years. The incarceration could be imposed if Spejcher, who turns 33 on Thursday and lived in Thousand Oaks at the time of the crime, violates probation. The sentence also includes 100 hours of community service focused on raising awareness about the effects of marijuana-induced psychosis.

Moments after the verdict, the victim’s father, Sean O’Melia, accused Worley of bias and said the ruling set a dangerous precedent.

“He just gave everyone in the state of California who smokes marijuana a license to kill someone,” he said.

Spejcher’s father, Mike Spejcher, declined comment. Her lawyer, Bob Schwartz, said he was happy for the family.

“Judge Worley did the right and courageous thing,” Schwartz said.

Spejcher and O’Melia initially met at a dog park and had been dating for just weeks before they smoked marijuana together at his apartment in Thousand Oaks late the night of May 27, 2018. Testimony showed that under the influence of the psychotic episode, she stabbed O’Melia more than 100 times with different knives, also stabbing herself.

When law enforcement arrived shortly after midnight, O’Melia was covered in a pool of blood. Spejcher was screaming hysterically and holding a knife she plunged into her neck. Law enforcement officers used a Taser and several baton blows to disarm her and then called for paramedics in actions her family said saved her life.

Spejcher’s lawyers said during the trial that she was “involuntarily intoxicated,” and claimed O’Melia had pressured and intimidated her into taking the last bong hit. Under California criminal law, people are responsible for their actions when impaired by alcohol or drugs unless their intoxication was involuntary.

The jurors rejected the defense’s argument. They deliberated for less than four hours before finding her guilty of involuntary manslaughter on Dec. 1.

During the trial, the prosecution portrayed Spejcher as a callous, narcissistic party girl who just wanted to get high the night she killed O’Melia. At the sentencing hearing, her parents and others painted a dramatically different picture, focusing on her hearing impairment and her work before the crime as a licensed audiologist.

“She has worked her whole life helping others,” her father, Mike Spejcher, said.

Bryn Spejcher also spoke during the sentencing, noting she had been accused repeatedly of showing no remorse. Sobbing, she repeatedly apologized to Sean O’Melia.

“My actions have ripped your family apart,” she said. “I am broken and aching inside. I hurt that you never see Chad again.”

The hearing was held in a courtroom so crowded spectators sat in the jury box and others stayed in the hallway, tuning into a livestreamed broadcast. The hearing was punctuated by drama too with Sean O’Melia jumping to his feet to interrupt Spejcher’s attorney and then minutes later walking out of the courtroom in frustration.

The day before the hearing, family and friends of Chad O'Melia marched in front of the county government center, urging a sentence that included prison time. They carried signs that said, “108 Stab Wounds Is A Serious Crime,” and “Judge Worley, Do The Right Thing.”

O’Melia was 26 when he was killed. He was from Santa Clarita and had graduated from Chico State University. He lived in a condo in Thousand Oaks with two roommates and his dog and was working at an accounting firm and studying to be a certified public accountant.

He was kind, motivated and everybody’s friend. He owned a laugh that drew people to him, friends and family members said during the sentencing. They talked too about Michelle Larrivee, Chad’s mother who died in a diabetic coma less than two years after her son's death. Her friends said the death was caused by a broken heart.

Family and friends urged Worley to impose prison time on Spejcher.

“There is no winner in this tragedy,” said Brendan O’Melia, the victim’s brother. “There can be, however, accountability.”

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28632295 - 01/23/24 04:21 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

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“He just gave everyone in the state of California who smokes marijuana a license to kill someone,” he said.





This is the only takeaway from this that makes sense.
The justice system has failed horribly and has allowed the public to be endangered with this murderer allowed free.

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28632313 - 01/23/24 04:34 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

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“He just gave everyone in the state of California who smokes marijuana a license to kill someone,” he said.





This is the only takeaway from this that makes sense.
The justice system has failed horribly and has allowed the public to be endangered with this murderer allowed free.



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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: oursoulsinmotion] * 2
    #28632412 - 01/23/24 06:09 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

They are basically saying he forced her to smoke it. As if he held her down or threatened harm.. 

Why does the 100 hours of community service have to be focused on marijuana psychosis awareness? Thats a huge red flag. So like, she gets to spend those hours writing that book I was talking about, like OJ did? 

This whole story has MK ultra or crisis act psyop vibes all over it. Just too ridiculous to actually be true..

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero]
    #28633388 - 01/24/24 02:09 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

As a fatalist, I have never once seen someone undergo a complete transformation of personality, regardless of hard drug use or their own mistreatment.

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She was an accomplished person apparently.




I blame social promotions, in which a lifetime worth of red flags were overlooked.

There is a hypothetical middleground, in which a schizo effective person is triggered by some stressful event, whether it involves her being pressured to smoke oregano or pencil sharpener shavings.

I believe it was predictable, as all people, everywhere, are eventually predictable to the nth degree.

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28633409 - 01/24/24 02:29 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

She’s now the flag child of marijuana psychosis.
Something there is still no evidence of.
She is walking the streets right now because of people that are trying to push the propaganda campaign that marijuana can make you lose your mind and stab someone and that is completely the drugs fault.


Something that happened over 50 years ago. Yet we are still letting people bully us into having this be a narrative.

Marijuana of all things.
Not PCP. No no no. The marijuana.
That’s the one that’ll make you go into a psychotic break and stab someone 108 times. That’s on record now.
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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie]
    #28635627 - 01/26/24 01:27 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28642351 - 01/31/24 07:54 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/29/us/california-mojave-desert-six-dead-arrests/index.html

These guys should get off pretty easy then eh? It was the weeds fault right?

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: PsillySeeEms] * 1
    #28642806 - 02/01/24 10:44 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

From my neck of the woods.

The gangs have police affiliation, and the police have gang affiliation, just like in other failed countries where the avocado is a blood commodity.

Like historical examples, from around the world, where strongmen just arbitrarily assume the color of authority, and it is the job of some emperor figure to unify all the little, fragmented city states, doing their own thing, under one collective banner.

Some fascist figure is going to ask future generations if they would prefer the 'anarchy of former days'.

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