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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#28642278 - 01/31/24 06:39 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Funny how you sit on the opposite side of the table but still in the same chair
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28642283 - 01/31/24 06:44 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Your opinion is shaped by disinformation campaigns designed exactly for dumb people like you.
speaking from experience here.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28642289 - 01/31/24 06:49 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Sounds like the USA is finna go on a big military response any day now against Iran for their drone that killed 3 American soldiers.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ashfiken]
#28642291 - 01/31/24 06:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I have shared zero misinformation, but it's not like it matters to people who don't care about what's true or not. Hamas deliberately targeted unarmed civilians at a rave and you're pretending Israel needs to invent things to make them look bad. The shit they actually did is so heinous that it seems over the top. Regardless, your brain is full of worms so it doesn't matter.
You require zero evidence to believe something and just the same to call it bullshit. How true something is for you is how true you want it to be. I repeatedly asked for examples of these IDF lies that were proven wrong that I'd believed. To nobody's surprise, there were none. Just clowns saying, "To my knowledge, its all fake!" Yes, to your knowledge, this non-existent collection of information. The sole arbiter of whether something is worth believing or not is if you want to.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#28642310 - 01/31/24 07:13 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I repeatedly asked for examples of these IDF lies that were proven wrong that I'd believed. To nobody's surprise, there were none.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/another-israeli-witness-confirms-israeli-tanks-killed-own-citizens-on-oct-7/3079514#
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
#28642321 - 01/31/24 07:28 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Stable Genius said: The Jews were given a place to live. What a pity they couldn’t have shown the Palestinians the same courtesy. And here we are. The hatred is too complete now, Israel won’t stop until it has stolen the entire Palestinian State. And people wonder why Oct 7th happened… ffs

wtf are you talking about? The fact that you unironically think this is anywhere close to accurate is unreal. Jews weren't "given a place to live", they returned to the place they were the ones driven out of, through the lawful purchase of land agreements. They stole zero land, but were attacked by multiple Arab countries, who were soundly defeated. Boo-hoo.
Nobody wonders why 10/7 happened, dude. Most people without brain injuries understand that inbred religious maniacs purposely killed a bunch of civilians, including little kids and babies. I know you think that's totally fine since you're of the same ilk.
Also, checkout this open air prison I keep hearing about:
Bless those freedom fighters. Life was so cruel for these Gazans! Open air prison! Dehumanized! Apartheid state!
Stable Moron,
Where did the IDF lie about that incident? And where did I post that lie? I don't remember saying that hostages weren't accidentally killed when dealing with your terrorist buddies. I did ask the Wolf clown: "Are you also one of those embarrassing conspiracy nuts who believe the IDF killed like half of their own with friendly fire?" I'm referencing the actually debunked disinformation that you just posted as real 20 minutes ago. 
You 100% have worms for brains. I'm not even concerned you can actually read. Do you think that accidental friendly fire while trying to rescue civilians makes some other lie involving friendly fire is true, too? It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that's how you think this works. You might as well reference something from another conflict or training videos or even a movie. 
I guess I can't expect much from terrorist sympathizers.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] 1
#28642333 - 01/31/24 07:36 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I repeatedly asked for examples of these IDF lies that were proven wrong that I'd believed. To nobody's surprise, there were none. Just clowns saying, "To my knowledge, its all fake!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/30/israel-forces-disguised-women-medics-storm-hospital-jenin-west-bank?CMP=share_btn_link
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#28642357 - 01/31/24 07:59 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: It's the same completely juvenile take that parrots "ethnic cleansing" and all the other buzzwords that show how little a person knows.
It helps if you read the articles, by the way
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I repeatedly asked for examples of these IDF lies that were proven wrong that I'd believed.
Israeli government ministers calling for ethnic cleansing https://x.com/wr_jr71/status/1752064861897658497?s=46
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28642363 - 01/31/24 08:06 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: They stole zero land
Stable Moron
You 100% have worms for brains.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28642383 - 01/31/24 08:26 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I have shared zero misinformation, but it's not like it matters to people who don't care about what's true or not. Hamas deliberately targeted unarmed civilians at a rave and you're pretending Israel needs to invent things to make them look bad. The shit they actually did is so heinous that it seems over the top. Regardless, your brain is full of worms so it doesn't matter.
You require zero evidence to believe something and just the same to call it bullshit. How true something is for you is how true you want it to be. I repeatedly asked for examples of these IDF lies that were proven wrong that I'd believed. To nobody's surprise, there were none. Just clowns saying, "To my knowledge, its all fake!" Yes, to your knowledge, this non-existent collection of information. The sole arbiter of whether something is worth believing or not is if you want to.
There has Been much talk about evidence in this thread... you may need to review the first 100 pages.. the op had/has the biggest problem with that if you should happen to purview. The evidence is exactly what you make of it. Exactly what you seek out. And seeing things for what they are. A tiny community with hate for Babylon bred into their ugly impoverished life. Being decimated by a us backed colonizer. Don't be coy and act like "it's war" Guaranteed American bred tool Only military to drop nukes cuz "it's war" "Has no prob with overzealous destruction violence and killing, bc it's war" I wish ppl like you would remember vietnam And a 3rd world population that hid in tunnels and trees and fought off the "soldiers of freedom and democracy"
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ashfiken]
#28642385 - 01/31/24 08:30 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Take it up with them when they get back tomorrow.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: ashfiken]
#28642440 - 01/31/24 09:29 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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ashfiken said: There has Been much talk about evidence in this thread... you may need to review the first 100 pages.. the op had/has the biggest problem with that if you should happen to purview. The evidence is exactly what you make of it.
This OP sounds like a legend. Tell us more.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds]
#28642479 - 01/31/24 11:04 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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What do you think about the 16 cemeteries the IDF mulched? No actual evidence of tunnels underneath the cemeteries provided.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28642536 - 02/01/24 01:04 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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For the last time this isn't a war this is a routine peace-keeping operation necessary for defense and security. That's why it was necessary for them to send covert military sanctioned commandos on special operations to neutralize or capture terrorist and other agitators because this type of enemy never follows the rules. Where were they found oh right hiding in a hospital where they were otherwise untouchable but still actively conducting terror operations. I don't know how folks can argue against that and then in the next breath say there's no evidence of them using human shields. There's your evidence genius. How stupid are you people?
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A 'routine peace keeping operation' 
If you're trolling great job, if not
What do you think about the 16 cemeteries that got mulched with no actual evidence of tunnels underneath them provided?
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What evidence exactly? Israel hasn't provided any evidence of the alleged planning of an attack.
If this isn't a war, then Israeli police have a duty to arrest those accused of crimes - not assassinate while sleeping.
If it was a military operation, then disguising combat troops as medical workers is an offence on par to using hospitals as a staging ground for military attacks.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28642551 - 02/01/24 01:31 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I dont know anything about it but I'm willing to bet there's more to the story than israel bombed a cemetery for laughs just to do it as that makes zero sense after about a second of rational thought.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28642552 - 02/01/24 01:31 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Respectfully, I would argue it’s not on par. It’s not using people in hospital beds as a blanket cover for yourself. Your infiltrating an enemy position to take out targets in wartime.
I’m not defending what they did. But that’s not apples and oranges.
If they had murdered several hospital staff to carry out that operation. Then I’d say we’re getting closer.
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The CIA used a vaccination program in Pakistan to covertly collect information in their search for Bin Laden.
This negatively affected the ability for legitimate healthcare NGOs to operate in the region, setback ongoing vaccination campaigns worldwide, and resulted in dozens of healthcare workers being murdered out of suspicion.
It undermines medical institutions in the same way that using hospitals to launch attacks does - that's why I consider it comparable.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-cia-fake-vaccination-campaign-endangers-us-all/
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I dont know anything about it but I'm willing to bet there's more to the story than israel bombed a cemetery for laughs just to do it as that makes zero sense after about a second of rational thought.
The claim was there were Hamas tunnels underneath the cemetaries, but no evidence of tunnels being under the cemetaries were provided.
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Israel claims a tunnel ran through this Gaza cemetery it destroyed. A visit to the site raised more questions than answers
A week after a CNN investigation found that the Israeli military damaged or destroyed at least 16 cemeteries in Gaza since the beginning of the war, the Israeli military invited CNN into Gaza to explain why it partially destroyed one of those cemeteries.
But Israeli commanders failed to prove their claim during a three-hour visit to the Bani Suheila cemetery and the surrounding area.
KHAN YUNIS, GAZA - JANUARY 17: A view of a damaged cemetery following the Israeli attacks near the Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, Gaza on January 17, 2024.
On Saturday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) took CNN into a tunnel near the Bani Suheila cemetery and into an underground command center that the military said was below the cemetery.
However, IDF commanders declined to show reporters the tunnel shaft they said emerged inside the cemetery, claiming there was sensitive machinery underground and that the structure was unstable.
“The whole thing can collapse,” said Brig. Gen. Dan Goldfuss, the commander of the IDF’s 98th Division. “You have to walk to the edge. The edge is not secure, it can collapse.”
A spokesman for the Israeli military said they would provide video of the tunnel shaft in the enormous hole, but never did.
Instead, the IDF provided drone footage that showed two other tunnel entrances – one of which CNN entered – near the cemetery. CNN geolocated the tunnel entrances using footage filmed on the ground, as well as satellite imagery, and found that neither was in the cemetery grounds.
The Israeli military stood by its claims, insisting in a press release that a tunnel ran directly through the religious site.
But that press release also undermined Goldfuss’ claim that the underground command center was directly below the cemetery. A map released by the military placed the command center outside the graveyard.
Goldfuss also told CNN that his troops repeatedly came under fire from the area of the cemetery.
“My forces – at the beginning we tried to flank this area – were fired from this area, again, and again,” Goldfuss said. “They couldn’t understand why. Once we… found the military compound underneath the graveyard, we took all the measures to attack that compound.”
The Israeli military subsequently bulldozed and excavated the western section of the cemetery, where dozens of graves once stood.
Pressed on how his forces dealt with dead who were buried there, Goldfuss said, “We try and move them aside as much as we can, as much as possible.”
“But remember, this place, when you’re fighting here and your enemy is flanking you again and again and again using these compounds to hide in, there’s not much you can do,” he added.
Goldfuss maintained that the heavy damage to the cemetery was necessary to uncover what he claimed was a tunnel beneath its surface.
The IDF has also damaged at least one cemetery and disturbed bodies in its search for hostages, with a previous CNN investigation earlier this month finding bodies removed from gravesites.
Medical staff at Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza have also alleged that Israeli soldiers used bulldozers to dig up bodies buried in the hospital’s courtyard, after concluding a raid in the hospital.
According to international law, an intentional attack on a cemetery could amount to a war crime, except under very limited circumstances relating to that site becoming a military objective.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/29/world/israel-cemetery-bani-suheila-intl/index.html
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