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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#28641745 - 01/31/24 10:44 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Blue_Lux] 3
#28641748 - 01/31/24 10:48 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Attack the post, not the poster. You should know better by now. You can't just flame people because you wrote it in latin
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Blue_Lux] 2
#28642067 - 01/31/24 03:58 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: College is still the best strategy to build wealth. Education always is. Even with the relatively higher cost.
Other strategies to build wealth exist, but none are as reliable or as universal as getting an education. Plus, education makes you better at...whatever you do.
Of course education has value to individuals and society beyond building wealth but...we need money to live in this society and plenty of folks find, once they've finished with their education, that there aren't enough jobs in their chosen field of expertise to get one.
There aren't enough jobs in any chosen field nowadays. But a college grad will in 99% of cases do better than a non-college grad. Some trades might touch college grad pay, but tradesmen tend to look 60 in their early 40s, and get sized for a pine box by 60.
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Kryptos said: People overlook the value of just kinda hanging out with your young adult peers while real life waits by the sidelines. I think that's one of the major purposes of college. Exposure to others. It's not all books and specifically tracked and marketable skill sets.
Especially because we are rapidly moving towards a world in which the only truly valuable skill is entertainment, which requires a strong interpersonal foundation.
And that made sense when you could go to UCLA for just the cost of your books, back before Reagan fucked that all up but hanging out with your bros and playing beer pong shouldn't cost 200k
It shouldn't cost it but now it does. It's part of the monetization trend--as people spend less money on luxuries, as they cannot afford them, the prices of basics are raised to ensure proper wealth transfer to the rich.
Still a pretty valuable experience, and while the cost may be steep, there isn't really any other equivalent in modern society. I'd even go so far as to say that college is becoming one of the last third spaces left.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
#28642121 - 01/31/24 04:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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In the news right wing paid faces like Tucker Carlson say "you won't be a slave if..." People are already.
They select personalities they know people will be likelier to listen to. They harvest artists. Most people don't question what they sense from others. They have trust. It is pure evil how manipulated people can be by merely having trust in art and media. Everything must be kept at a distance. People have always been seduced by orators, speakers, artists, poets. This is why Plato wanted it all completely controlled by the state, because there will always be people who use it as the effective means it really is - to seduce and implant in people what they then can be judged according to, which is already set up for them to make certain mistakes and decisions, and is already set up to punish them and direct their lives.
All kinds of popular music implants feelings in people, and much of it is deliberately sculpted for specific responses that are in accordance with other aims--and have nothing to do with just creating art for people or something. That isn't how that works. People are hypnotized by art into perceiving reality a certain way at the expense of the actual reality. And in this they can do utterly illogical things. This is why Plato said it should be controlled by a wise, benevolent, small group of philosopher kings. People like to play this, but it really requires being massively rich and exploitive.
There are plenty of talented people who never "make it." You don't 'make it' anymore. There is so much programming into people that goes under the guise of 'art' or 'creativity'... It has to do with money and making people into something. They need creative people so they can seduce people with fancy images and stories and sounds. That is the only reason people see, really, the majority of 'art.'
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He’s like those dudes in college that got into communism and only wore Che Guevara T-shirts
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#28642126 - 01/31/24 04:57 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I wanna be seduced by a poet
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 1
#28642130 - 01/31/24 04:59 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Don't slander me like that. I never wore tshirts, and certainly not with some slogan. I like to have a formal/casual style. I don't advertise anything on my body or clothing, except for a mushroom perhaps, likely not noticeable, and that's rare.
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It’s an analogy. Don’t take it literally.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#28642142 - 01/31/24 05:06 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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You already probably have. It isn't wrong to give into the seduction of any artist or writer or creative person... there is nothing wrong with art itself, and poetry, philosophy, etc. These things, however, can be deliberately crafted, and principles can be used, such as principles about how people react emotionally to different sort of musical instruments, notes, chords, sequences, keys... There is a science to understanding how music affects people, and this is what I'm talking about. This is where the seduction comes in, because people really have no choice very often, because etiological necessity is used, and implicit associations which register subliminally. It pierces directly to a person and changes them without their consent or knowledge. Precisely because they trust what they (think they) are seeing.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 2
#28642148 - 01/31/24 05:08 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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He’s like those dudes in college that got into communism and only wore Che Guevara T-shirts
Giving him way too much credit
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No I literally want a poet to pick me up at a reading or something and go behind the stacks
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He’s like those dudes in college that got into communism and only wore Che Guevara T-shirts
Giving him way too much credit
Were you the Che guy?
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ℌ𝔦𝔠 𝔞𝔢𝔳𝔬 𝔳𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔰 𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔞 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔪𝔬 𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔬𝔯𝔞 𝔳𝔲𝔩𝔤𝔞𝔯𝔲𝔫𝔱 𝔭𝔩𝔲𝔳𝔦𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔟𝔲𝔰 𝔢𝔡𝔦𝔱𝔞 𝔣𝔲𝔫𝔤𝔦𝔰.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Blue_Lux] 1
#28642240 - 01/31/24 06:22 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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This is getting cringy
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#28642275 - 01/31/24 06:38 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Scisne quem significantem isti?
Lol okay I had enough fun. Just had to show I'm still serious.
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That was never in doubt
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Blue_Lux said: Just had to show I'm still serious.
more cringe.
nobody cares.
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Baby_Hitler said: AKA non-degreed adults.
oh you mean me?
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