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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28634781 - 01/25/24 06:06 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I agree with all of that. People extend their playfulness as far as they extend their trust in the moment. Perhaps that's why things are sometimes "good in the beginning" because there were no personal level structural associations but rather a likable stranger who also conveniently knows almost nothing about them. In leu of causing trust issues it can still take a long time to develop it, mutually acknowledge it and enjoy it. Even in a best case scenario it can take more than a few months, or longer, to find that. It takes a long time to really get to know someone and people only trust what they know.

Bad drama seems better than no drama to some and in some curious manner of logic considering people trust what they know, bad drama can be more trusted than good drama.


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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz] * 1
    #28634797 - 01/25/24 06:16 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Rahz said:

Bad drama seems better than no drama to some and in some curious manner of logic considering people trust what they know, bad drama can be more trusted than good drama.




at a certain point I realized i was creating suffering in my life in lots of ways because my mind was conditioned in an environment of suffering, and there was familiarity in that. I would return to similar circumstances because I felt I knew how to navigate and protect myself in them, even though they were miserable.

It took a scary leap of faith to try new things, still does

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28634872 - 01/25/24 07:01 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Everything has a way it is properly expressed, even if in myriad ways.


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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
    #28634879 - 01/25/24 07:06 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

It is exactly time that people don't talk about when they talk about marriage. Sure, they may talk about "a lifetime," but do they talk about the actual lived time that they will encounter? Think of the person you have exchanged the most amount of words with. This is properly someone's spouse, how I see it. The time is what really makes it what it is. There comes a point... it is after months upon months of every moment together... Some people never experience this. My husband and I went 3 full years together every single day and night, never apart. This type of experience is... I'm not sure some people are ready for it. It is just like a psychedelic, really. Everyone goes into it all rainbows and giggles, and confetti... Then you get further and further... "Does this end? This is something unlike I could have ever imagined." I think you learn just as much about yourself as you do the other person. At least, if my experience is like what other people's experiences of marriage are like.

What is the difference between having shared 10,000 words and 2 million? Maybe more?


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
    #28634883 - 01/25/24 07:11 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

How much can you know someone else? I'd say you could only ever know someone as much as is possible if they love you, and you them.

A good time for this quote
Quote:


He who knows nothing, loves nothing. He who can do nothing understands nothing. He who understands nothing is worthless. But he who understands also
loves, notices, sees … The more knowledge is inherent in a thing, the greater the love.… Anyone who imagines that all fruits ripen at the same time as the strawberries knows nothing about grapes

Paracelsus







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I the music, not the bling
the Dutch gay purge & pogrom
𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28634936 - 01/25/24 08:13 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

This is what my signature means

Quote:

Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est



The deepest and widest truths are to be loved, so therefore it's necessary: the greatest thing is to be loved (amanda est)

(Clearly sexual, but also metaphorically true, as the greatest artists love their craft, and the greatest mathematicians, etc. Etc)

Quote:

pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus



Drained it may be, we know it best when it fills us to a point, here with the high it moves lowest

Quote:

Res maxima omnis amor



Love is the greatest thing of all

An echo to Virgil's
Omnia vincit amor, et nos cedamus amori

Potus sit is bene scimus can also mean "it may be a potion we know best"
Sitis means "of thirst"
"Potus sitis" would mean a draught of thirst ...
we know best a draught of thirst,
cum nos id adeo explet,
when it supplies us thus (so much)
Cum alto hic movet imus
When this most profound moves in the deep rooted
With the high the deepest moves here
This lowest with the high moves deepest

The thirst for knowledge. You know something the most when it affects you the most.

Movet means 'it moves/stirs/affects' it also means 'agitates.'

Potus sitis bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet
Drained of thirst we know it best when it fills us so much
Potus sit is bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet
It may be a potion, we know it best when it accomplishes, fulfills us... travels up and down to a certain point us

:wink:

It means a number of things

That is why I keep it on my signature. Just saying.

64 loving

Of the deepest and widest truths
They must eo ipso be loved,
so therefore it's necessary:
the greatest thing is to be loved.
We know best something of a thirst
when it fills us to such a point,
this inmost with depth arouses:
Love is the greatest thing of all

8 syllables per 8 lines

8 letter title


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I the music, not the bling
the Dutch gay purge & pogrom
𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28634960 - 01/25/24 08:30 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

1 more thing. "Potus sitis bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet"
Drained of thirst, we know it best when it (a drink) fills us to such a point
This is inspired by Epicurus who says water for the very thirsty is more pleasurable than when one is mildly thirsty. Knowledge at its best is in the same way. And just as with relationships. The intensity of love is proportional to the need.


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I the music, not the bling
the Dutch gay purge & pogrom
𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.
            mēns super rēs
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Edited by Blue_Lux (01/25/24 08:44 PM)

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 2
    #28635046 - 01/25/24 09:38 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

If stupidity is a form of assault, then this thread is a beatdown.

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: nooneman]
    #28635201 - 01/26/24 04:04 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

in passing, as I am travelling
marriage is an adventure and a construction project with potential pro-genitive functions and mutual support functions in our life cycles.
many animals pair for life.


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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28635232 - 01/26/24 05:14 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

many animals pair for life.

I love that - I truly want one (1) woman as my special soul/twin-flame potential partner. One that I devote most of my life to. :heart:

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28635388 - 01/26/24 08:46 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Quote:

Blue_Lux said:
It is exactly time that people don't talk about when they talk about marriage. Sure, they may talk about "a lifetime," but do they talk about the actual lived time that they will encounter? Think of the person you have exchanged the most amount of words with. This is properly someone's spouse, how I see it. The time is what really makes it what it is. There comes a point... it is after months upon months of every moment together... Some people never experience this. My husband and I went 3 full years together every single day and night, never apart. This type of experience is... I'm not sure some people are ready for it. It is just like a psychedelic, really. Everyone goes into it all rainbows and giggles, and confetti... Then you get further and further... "Does this end? This is something unlike I could have ever imagined." I think you learn just as much about yourself as you do the other person. At least, if my experience is like what other people's experiences of marriage are like.

What is the difference between having shared 10,000 words and 2 million? Maybe more?




Such things often don't happen in a mutual way. Being alone in one's vulnerability is one thing. Being hurt by one's object of affection in such a state is another, and that's where the boundaries are built.

The person I've loved the most, I felt the need to break things off with them. Sacrifice, compromise, understanding, patience, working on trust. At some point and it's not gradual the magic is gone. Love remains. It's not enough to carry on but it still holds value. Did I get manipulative? Was I progressively more needy? Did I get violent? Did I kill myself to spite her? Nope. I left her and that's what she needed. That's how she knows I actually love her, because I broke things off without being hurtful about it.

Another person I know is "prone to obsession". Doesn't want to be in love or have someone be in love with her. Was in love with a BF, got cheated on and took it very badly. Later she experienced a platonic obsession and was rejected by a friend. At that point she sought psychiatric help.

The first person I mentioned never had a chance. Her step-dad started molesting her when she was 3.

Lucky are those who fall in love and also love. Luckier are those who fall in love together and also love together.


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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
    #28640466 - 01/30/24 11:14 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Dutch man accused in Amanda Todd harassment case found guilty



Aydin Coban convicted of sexually extorting B.C. teen Amanda Todd



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"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
    #28640470 - 01/30/24 11:19 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

The Sextortion of Amanda Todd - the fifth estate



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28640512 - 01/30/24 11:54 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I don't know what was going on in her mind, but I've known multiple women who were used sexually who developed intense self hatred afterwards

I think its a huge issue with our culture of encouraging men to use women for pleasure

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28640580 - 01/30/24 01:01 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Human instincts go awry when it comes to both sex and food. Some people are conscious of nutrition. Others just eat for pleasure, disregarding nutrition. What's missing in people's lives is joy and thankfulness for nutritious food and right-relationship. That Aydin Coban is a perfect example of cunning-stupidity. It demonstrates how it's possible to be both cunning and stupid. As for Amanda Todd, she was too young to know any better, she did not have a relationship outside of the internet. I see an internet chat room addiction and a web cam / selfie addiction. When someone is hooked up to the internet and addicted to being online, then criminals can easily manipulate. I'm glad we have police to follow up on those kinds of relationships, to shed light on darker corners of society and see who is there.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28640585 - 01/30/24 01:09 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

how can someone caught up in degradation (of self or other) find wisdom and happiness?

Edited by Freedom (01/30/24 01:10 PM)

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28640597 - 01/30/24 01:15 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

"Rare and blessed is one whose desire to live, to enjoy and to know, has been extinguished by observing the ways of men." - Ashtavakra Gita


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
    #28640601 - 01/30/24 01:17 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Bullying Tragedy: Amanda Todd's Nightmare



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28640735 - 01/30/24 03:07 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Nice, positive affirmation, huh?

:thumbup:

:tellmeastory:

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28640754 - 01/30/24 03:22 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Cory Duchesne said:
"Rare and blessed is one whose desire to live, to enjoy and to know, has been extinguished by observing the ways of men." - Ashtavakra Gita





"Was there an age or time men existed without opposites? Leave the opposites behind. Be content with what comes. Perfection."

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