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OfflineJutah
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Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration
    #28639235 - 01/29/24 11:15 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)






Hi All! I keep running into the same issue. Above you’ll see a clean colonized tray. Up until this point everything is going smooth and looks very nice. When it comes time fruit I keep running into the same issue. The tray sits in a monotub receiving FAE and misting as needed to maintain surface conditions. I begin to see a tremendous amount of knots forming and then….I’m getting blobbing which begins on the edges, along with brown/yelloy discoloration. The fruiting Room has FAE every hour from outside, hepa filter running 24/7 and humidity control. It’s been a several trays, Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: Jutah] * 1
    #28639339 - 01/29/24 12:39 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Im by no means a expert on this and hopefully someone who is can help. I know some of the PE genetics tend to blob up more but im not sure that is related to your problem, and that discoloration seems kind of odd. I dont think you need or want FAE from outside air every hour, or a heppa filter running 24/7. They should be fine with just being fanned/misted once or twice a day depending on your climate. Outside air contains a lot of contaminants so im not sure its something you want to introduce a lot of, especially if your not filtering it. Some people like to use hepa air filters in grow areas but i have not noticed a difference using them and i think that most contamination comes from your spawn or substrate and not your environment. Hopefully someone here can help you out, good luck :heart:


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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: farmerboy]
    #28639373 - 01/29/24 01:01 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Not an expert either, but I come with a couple of questions!

What variety is this?

Do you have a picture of your spawn? More often than not, dirty spawn is the culprit.

It looks like the sub is in a completely opaque container (a restaurant dish tub). What do you have covering the top opening? Does it allow light to pass through?

How are you controlling FAE?

It looks like you're so close to having some awesome flushes!

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: Jutah]
    #28639392 - 01/29/24 01:11 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

The discoloration and blobbing seem to be related to each other. Two main things that can cause blobbing is fruiting a substrate before its fully consolidated and a subtrate that is too nutritious. What kind of spawn mix ratio did you use?


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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28639590 - 01/29/24 03:48 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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main things that can cause blobbing is fruiting a substrate before its fully consolidated




This kinda goes against everyone using fruiting conditions at spawn no? Which most of us do now.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: WyoMX] * 1
    #28639793 - 01/29/24 06:09 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

What you have at least used to be a sought after mutation called Dino eggs according to the search engine here.  Rare and very potent.  I am growing my first PE and I will be using a tek called beefs beefy tub tek.  The pressure from compaction and the top layer is how I will encourage shrooms instead of blobs.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, Dino Egg blobbing & discoloration [Re: WyoMX]
    #28640059 - 01/30/24 12:56 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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main things that can cause blobbing is fruiting a substrate before its fully consolidated




This kinda goes against everyone using fruiting conditions at spawn no? Which most of us do now.




This is true, introducing fruiting conditions after mixing your spawn is the new standard. However, i might argue that delaying fruiting for mutant strains such as this rare "Dino Egg" might be a good idea to avoid such extreme mutant types. It might be worth a try.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: OctopusDisco] * 1
    #28640327 - 01/30/24 09:09 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Sorry left out some important details.

Type: Jedi mind fuck

The black tray sits in a clear monotub, with FAE holes. It’s hit with the proper lighting for 12on 12off. I

I use a 1 to 1 ratio.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28640339 - 01/30/24 09:16 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

To get an idea of when I start fruiting is from the top picture. That tub is in colonization and once the mycelium covers the sun/dirt spots on the left, is when I would begin fruiting.

The spawn it’s self, always looks great. Bright white and with the 1 to 1 ratio colonize that black tray with 7-8 days. I’m growing about 20 trays in fruiting at a time. I have grown this exact type, with the same ratio before and had great success. It’s just now, everything looks awesome all the way up til fruiting. And even in fruiting the surface conditions are maintained nicely but within the first week my knots are shifting to the blobs.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: farmerboy]
    #28640345 - 01/30/24 09:24 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I phrased that terribly. The black trays sit in a clear monotub. Standard drilled holes around it, blocked off or micro taped as necessary.

The room I am fruiting in I try to control the best I can. I have the outside air being pulled through a filter first and then dumped in. Only runs 1 min an hour. The hepa filter runs constantly on a low setting. I have an air ionizer which runs when the Fresh air is being brought in. Temp is controlled at 72-75 degrees and a humidifier holding the room at 45ish percent.

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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: Jutah]
    #28640427 - 01/30/24 10:30 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Are these all the same tray at different stages?


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Re: Can’t get it Right! Help, blobbing, discoloration [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28640448 - 01/30/24 10:49 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

3 different trays

Picture 1 -different (colonizing)
Picture 2 and 3- same (blobs/color)
Picture 4-different (knots)

This has been the theme with all the fruiting trays the last couple weeks.

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