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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #28637701 - 01/28/24 07:48 AM (19 days, 7 hours ago)

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Romulan is a name I haven't heard in a long time.  Nice to see people still growing the old school strains.




I learned about it from the podcast Growcast. Someone who goes by "temple grower" was on an episode talking about the early medical cannabis scene in Canada. He mentioned several times that romulan was a popular medical strain at the time and I became intrigued. It's fun to grow something with a bit of history in my opinion.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: keylime123]
    #28637802 - 01/28/24 08:57 AM (19 days, 5 hours ago)

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Can anyone tell me where to find a clone or fem seeds of mint trees?



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: JustAnotherAsshole] * 1
    #28637878 - 01/28/24 10:00 AM (19 days, 4 hours ago)

I prefer seedfinder.eu

Most other strain maps are direct rips of this original and not compiled of individual user experience like seed finder is.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 9
    #28637933 - 01/28/24 10:48 AM (19 days, 4 hours ago)




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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: JustAnotherAsshole]
    #28637945 - 01/28/24 10:59 AM (19 days, 3 hours ago)

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Can anyone tell me where to find a clone or fem seeds of mint trees?



Check out strain Finder



I tried. No luck.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28637968 - 01/28/24 11:16 AM (19 days, 3 hours ago)

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Looks amazing brother!!!
I’ve been thinking about building a small greenhouse in my back yard for vegetables and some pretty flowers!


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW] * 1
    #28638613 - 01/28/24 06:55 PM (18 days, 20 hours ago)

I didn't realize blue ona gel smells like urinal cakes lol. That's what I get for just selecting the default option without reading anything.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: PizzaWizard] * 2
    #28638658 - 01/28/24 07:24 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

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Romulan is a name I haven't heard in a long time.  Nice to see people still growing the old school strains.




.....He mentioned several times that romulan was a popular medical strain at the time and I became intrigued. It's fun to grow something with a bit of history in my opinion.





:werd:

I used to get Romulan a lot back around 2005 to 2010-ish...there were so many good classics around back then and the quality I got was always top tier in every way (from friends that were small-stuff "dealers"), tho prices were considerably higher I really do miss the herb I was getting back then.

I haven't had Romulan in years, around 2010 was likely the last time. I hadn't even heard about it going around since about then too. Over the last several years tho I've been hearing about it again here & there and seeing some new crosses with it. "Romulan Genetics" is who "brought it back" in recent times.

The story about it...

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https://www.romulangenetics.com/about

"Romulan Genetics started in 2017 with a single mission in mind; to bring our beloved family grown strain, Romulan, back to the growers and cultivators who sought her. That mission stemmed from conversations held with well respected cannabis farmers, who told us that Romulan was always a strain they wish that they could get back one day, but they feared she had been lost to time. And those conversations were all started when word was spread that our founder, Jake, was growing a cut of original Romulan. While the mission that Romulan Genetics sought out to achieve was fairly quickly realized, it was evident that there was more we could do on our end instead of just giving clones of our cut away in the hopes that it would spread out eventually. So the mission evolved into hunting for a Romulan male from our old seed stock, that was worthy of breeding with and creating regular seeds. That has been our main focus and goal here.. to bring Romulan back. But many have asked us, "How is that even possible?!"

Well, it starts with a unique connection to this particular strain. Our founder grew up in California in the late 70's and early 80's. His father was US Navy Veteran, and also a well connected drug dealer during the 1960-70's. He was, more importantly, also a grower of cannabis. And starting in the late 1960's, his father began a business relationship with a certain motorcycle club. Which soon flourished into him being a main supplier of cannabis, cocaine, and LSD to some of the larger chapters of this club in California. This was the beginning of a loose collection of growers and cannabis breeders, who were all also military veterans and connected to motorcycle clubs from California to British Columbia. They met during camping trips up and down the PNW, and traded seeds, stories, and did their business with their families in tow all while camping out in the woods.

This was eventually how Romulan came to be, but it was first known by a very different name: Port Alberni Pinebud. In California, it was called Pine Mtn. bud among a few other names. But it was all coming from the same source, that group of veterans who grew and met during camping trips together. They started meeting up, and eventually working together on the cannabis they were breeding. It started well before Jake's father got involved, with veterans returning home from the Korean war. They brought back seeds from an amazing strain they had sampled, called Thai. The Korean Thai seeds were grown back home in the BC area, and Norcal area but these veterans found it very difficult to grow in those regions. Eventually when Jake's father and other veterans got involved, they introduced a Mexican sativa into the mix. And later a Colombian landrace was added, most likely Colombian Red, in the late 1970's. Eventually an Afghani Indica was bred in, but they did not like the results entirely, so they back crossed it with the Colombian Red again before they found what they were looking for. This original set of F1 seed stock are what brought P. Alberni Pinebud, P.A. Purple, and other notable strains to come from that region at that time. It was also at around this time, that Federal Agencies began to crack down on this groups members and their activities. This forced them to no longer meet together, and pushed the resulting strains and growers into more remote areas.

But that still doesn't cover how it became Romulan. "Romulan Joe" is who brought the strain to the masses initially. Most everyone knows that part of the story. The Romulan we grow here, is something very similar to the famous Joe's Romulan, but not the exact same thing. Rather it is a slightly different version than what Joe had, and should be thought of as closer to Vic High's Romulan cut. Our's is a pure original Romulan that has not been crossed with anything else.

​That leads us to 2015, when our founders father passed away in his sleep. And shortly after his close friends began to pass as well. Eventually Jake found himself the caretaker of this plant he had grown up around his whole life. He had minimum growing experience, but being a USMC Veteran himself, he felt a debt of gratitude to the men who had created this plant. It wasn't just his father and his involvement, it was all of them working together for decades to create what they felt was perfectly suited for their unique needs. Any Veteran with PTSD will tell you, that you simply cannot explain what its like to be in their head. And Jake himself felt that Romulan, uniquely over any other strain, brought him to a feeling of being centered and in control of his life. All of this mounted up, and drove Jake to attempt to give clones away to any who wanted them. He sought out large breeders, growers, and licensed cannabis providers all in an attempt to give clones freely and spread her back around again.

He was immediately met with hesitation, and he had no idea what he was actually getting into. People told him that they had heard stories before. That others came before him with fantastic claims. That proof was required, and an explanation was demanded. So he calmly explained his story, and one by one they all agreed that Jake knew things he should not know, if he wasn't somehow telling the truth. Friendships were made, partnerships were started, and eventually Romulan Genetics became a full fledged cannabis breeding company. Determined to bring the medicinal benefits of Romulan to all of those who need it. To bringing a strain back from the shadows. And to eventually make our own strains, tailored to those with medical issues and mental conditions.

We may not have been any part of creating Romulan, but we will be a part of keeping her around for years to come."








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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: PreparationH] * 4
    #28638666 - 01/28/24 07:29 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

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Should I top now or wait a few more days?




You could top them now, just pluck the two little leaves coming out the top. That’s it.

I normally wait until the 5/6th node then pluck, then the rest of the Time I just LST and maybe a few super crops if the plants asking for it…
Here’s mine, I think I’ve found 7-8 females at least so far, I just flip them to 12/12 so it’s about to be jumping!
Gotta get the jungle room together for flowering and root a few cuttings.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind] * 1
    #28638708 - 01/28/24 07:55 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

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openmind said:I used to get Romulan a lot back around 2005 to 2010-ish...there were so many good classics around back then and the quality I got was always top tier in every way (from friends that were small-stuff "dealers"), tho prices were considerably higher I really do miss the herb I was getting back then.

I haven't had Romulan in years, around 2010 was likely the last time. I hadn't even heard about it going around since about then too. Over the last several years tho I've been hearing about it again here & there and seeing some new crosses with it. "Romulan Genetics" is who "brought it back" in recent times.

The story about it...

https://www.romulangenetics.com/about

-OM

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Yeah from my research Romulan Genetics and Next Generation Seeds are the two most "legit" sources of romulan seeds. They both claim to have cuttings from romulan joe they use for breeding. I went with next generation because I also wanted to try their blue dynamite strain which has won some awards. They also have some romulan crosses for sale as well.

https://nextgenerationseedcompany.com/product/romulan/


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: PizzaWizard]
    #28638946 - 01/29/24 03:29 AM (18 days, 11 hours ago)

I really hate the fact that the dehumidifier almost doubles my power usage. I mean it's not like it's actually double but the humidifier is almost as much W as my lights, factor in ventilation and lights and those together being on a lot more of the time and the dehumidifying is probably down to a third of all power usage in the room but still, it takes up a fat chunk of power, and power ain't cheap here. We're among the most expensive in the world I think.

edit: I checked, definitely among most expensive in the world. We made the top 3 stage, what a questionable honor! 3 cents below the highest price. And I doubt they factored in the dubious fact we pay some extra fees on top of the bill for the energy, supposedly to supply the energy to our house, which is supposedly delivered to each of our doorsteps by dumptruck in bulk goods if you look at the prices they charge for that part.

Yeah, we are definitely getting fucked by the power companies. And while the state claims they try to minimize their profits, last year they made sure our power bill got higher while our price plan ensured us it wouldn't.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Enjoil] * 1
    #28638994 - 01/29/24 06:05 AM (18 days, 8 hours ago)

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Should I top now or wait a few more days?




You could top them now, just pluck the two little leaves coming out the top. That’s it.

I normally wait until the 5/6th node then pluck, then the rest of the Time I just LST and maybe a few super crops if the plants asking for it…
Here’s mine, I think I’ve found 7-8 females at least so far, I just flip them to 12/12 so it’s about to be jumping!
Gotta get the jungle room together for flowering and root a few cuttings.





Your plants definitely are much bigger than mine. Soil VS coco, there is a huge difference in growth rate. Nice tent man. Got it filled in nice. I'm about to flip this weekend I think.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #28639391 - 01/29/24 01:08 PM (18 days, 1 hour ago)

Thanks brother, yes they grow real fast once they get their new shoes on! I found a male and it already had roots growing through the fabric pot and it had only been in there like 12 days! Lol

Your plants will get jumping here soon I bet. Those grow dots might take a bit to dissolve…idk


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #28639457 - 01/29/24 02:03 PM (18 days, 53 minutes ago)

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I really hate the fact that the dehumidifier almost doubles my power usage. I mean it's not like it's actually double but the humidifier is almost as much W as my lights, factor in ventilation and lights and those together being on a lot more of the time and the dehumidifying is probably down to a third of all power usage in the room but still, it takes up a fat chunk of power, and power ain't cheap here. We're among the most expensive in the world I think.

edit: I checked, definitely among most expensive in the world. We made the top 3 stage, what a questionable honor! 3 cents below the highest price. And I doubt they factored in the dubious fact we pay some extra fees on top of the bill for the energy, supposedly to supply the energy to our house, which is supposedly delivered to each of our doorsteps by dumptruck in bulk goods if you look at the prices they charge for that part.

Yeah, we are definitely getting fucked by the power companies. And while the state claims they try to minimize their profits, last year they made sure our power bill got higher while our price plan ensured us it wouldn't.





I like to think of it as my dehumidifier doing double time keeping mold and rot out of my place.  I live in a VERY humid place and life without one is nothing but mold and rotting structures.  It really helps deal with that big ol power bill.

Do you own your home, is there any chance you could go energy independent with solar?


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Re: The Official Cannabis Growers Thread [Re: openmind] * 12
    #28639505 - 01/29/24 02:39 PM (18 days, 18 minutes ago)






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
    #28639794 - 01/29/24 06:10 PM (17 days, 20 hours ago)

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I really hate the fact that the dehumidifier almost doubles my power usage. I mean it's not like it's actually double but the humidifier is almost as much W as my lights, factor in ventilation and lights and those together being on a lot more of the time and the dehumidifying is probably down to a third of all power usage in the room but still, it takes up a fat chunk of power, and power ain't cheap here. We're among the most expensive in the world I think.

edit: I checked, definitely among most expensive in the world. We made the top 3 stage, what a questionable honor! 3 cents below the highest price. And I doubt they factored in the dubious fact we pay some extra fees on top of the bill for the energy, supposedly to supply the energy to our house, which is supposedly delivered to each of our doorsteps by dumptruck in bulk goods if you look at the prices they charge for that part.

Yeah, we are definitely getting fucked by the power companies. And while the state claims they try to minimize their profits, last year they made sure our power bill got higher while our price plan ensured us it wouldn't.





I like to think of it as my dehumidifier doing double time keeping mold and rot out of my place.  I live in a VERY humid place and life without one is nothing but mold and rotting structures.  It really helps deal with that big ol power bill.

Do you own your home, is there any chance you could go energy independent with solar?




Sorry to butt in to your convo, but this reminds me of what I started to not like about growing. Not necessarily the power bill, because cannabis is still profitable running all the machines. But the sheer amount of energy that is required made me feel so guilty and ashamed that I'm destroying the planet. Obviously any large building or business is going to be consuming ridiculous amounts of power too, so my impact is just a drop in the ocean and we're fucked either way. But when I did the math on my highest month of consumption (avg 91 kwh per day), and converted that to weight of coal, it was over a ton of coal every month. Coal is not dense. A ton of coal is a little over a cubic meter. Picturing the full process from mining the coal, loading it up, transporting it from wherever it came from, burning it in the plant... 2,000lb for me, every month... to make 3lb of dry flowers per month. It's insane.

Then I did the math for what it would cost, dollars and square footage, to convert to solar. It was even more insane. This is a quote that I quick googled up:
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The sunlight received directly affects how much power a 100-watt solar panel will produce. Ideally, the solar panel can produce 85 watts per hour apart from around 15% heat consumption and transmission consumption. So it can produce around 500-800 wh a day under 6-10 hours direct sunlight.




100w of solar panel (requiring about 10 sq. ft. of open sky space) produces, best case scenario, 800 wh per day. So I would need 114 100w panels to cover my peak demands. So that's 1,140 square feet of panels for my 100 sq. ft. grow room. It's beyond impractical to power an indoor grow with renewable solar energy. The hobby, as I see it, is majorly dependent on consumable energy.

I'm an extreme case I suppose, I bet I use more energy than 99% of home growers, at least for the tight density of my grow room. But to maximize the plant indoors, you really need all those control systems active 24/7, which skyrockets the costs and investment for relatively small gains. But you basically have to do it to stay competitive in the indoor flower market.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon] * 1
    #28640116 - 01/30/24 04:14 AM (17 days, 10 hours ago)

That's exactly my point. Well said Icon.

About you being an extreme case... You would be an extreme case if you're talking homegrown casual grower growing only for your own smoke. But you gotta realize there are many growers illicitly growing well over 10 times what you are growing, and maybe even more growing comparable amounts to mine. I'm currently growing on about 10sq ft. It's barely enough to cover my needs, even when doing outdoors when possible.

I'm all for growing outdoors whenever possible, but my locale, proximity of neighbors, the way my garden sits in the sun and surrounding landscape, and my consumption level (medical) make it impossible to completely go outdoors.

Though if I did succeed at growing my necessities outdoors, I'd probably still keep an indoor grow at the same rate as I do now simply because of the love for the work.

Coal is none of my concern personally, but only because we pre-emptively exclude it, since we've been paying for green power for ages now.

The problem with solar is a multifaceted one. One one hand it's just never going to happen that it'll cover our needs in that way (putting solar on your roof to keep your grow op powered) in it's own right. On the other, it's shifting the damage done to nature to where the materials are sourced. To overcome the first problem we could use batteries to help divide the power from the peak moments of power capture to the moments of peak usage. The materials for those batteries are then being sourced from the same or comparable places to the ones that provide materials for the solar industry: poor countries that have little regulation, that will be left poorer and unhealthier than before for our green dream.

The second problem is the real problem. The problem of shifting the damage. It's all one big fucking ponzi scheme.

The only thing that will stop it, is the ocean tides stopping and the world freezing over, starting a new glacial maximum, with all the worldly upheaval that comes along with it ultimately decimating the human population.

We might not be around to see that happening though.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #28640421 - 01/30/24 10:27 AM (17 days, 4 hours ago)

If you haven't looked into the advances that solar has taken in the past few years, both in tech output and reduction in price, I highly advise doing so.  It shocked me when i looked.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #28640561 - 01/30/24 12:41 PM (17 days, 2 hours ago)

It's still too expensive if you ask me, and they still haven't figured out how to recycle the solar panels after their usable lifespan is over.

Plus the REAL PROBLEM IS THE MINDSET.

Research has shown that when people get solar panels, their power usage increases a lot because they start to think differently about their power consumption, and eventually the people who pay to have their roofs lined with solar panels are the same people that are driving up the global energy demand.

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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard] * 3
    #28640581 - 01/30/24 01:02 PM (17 days, 1 hour ago)



Okay I have no idea what's going on :lol: The black sugar and autoflower began displaying some type of curling/tacoing/clawing (to blame the ocean forest maybe?) - I had topped the black sugar in a last ditch attempt to slow it down a bit the leaves coming out now look much better (for now) the autoflower is also slightly displaying the same effect on the leaves ... however the bagseed is doing absolutely great it's been topped 2 times and now just gonna let it bush out some

It's got to be a record for the smallest plant for its age :lol:


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