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Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian * 1
    #28638511 - 01/28/24 05:43 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I know health is important too, but I believe I could probably "cheat" once a week or so to get the nutrients I need.  For now I wish to know if it's cheaper to eat fruits, veggies and nuts only.  Trying to save money.  Poor as f*ck at the moment.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: Joh.Ke] * 2
    #28638525 - 01/28/24 05:53 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Yes it is. Grains are cheap. Canned food is cheap and last years if left on the shelf. Jump on the semi-veggie diet :awehigh:

Id probably avoid too many fresh veggies as they can be more expensive sometimes and can decay faster. Or just be mindful of your fresh foods on the daily.

Canned and frozen FTW :yesnod:

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28638563 - 01/28/24 06:25 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Dry beans and rice are incredibly affordable.  Instant pot is a cost up front but makes that really easy. 

Veggies are more expensive but from a health standpoint are great.

The only thing I really worry about supplementing as a (mostly) vegetarian are b vitamins.  Nutritional yeast is cheap if you can buy in bulk, is loaded with b vitamins and tastes fairly good as well.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28638564 - 01/28/24 06:26 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I'm semi veggie. I eat a lot of Greek salad with feta in it though. Chicken and fish too. No eggs, no red meat, no milk since I found out my cholesterol is fucked. I drink oat milk, eat honey nut Cheerios a lot and nuts/fruit/veg. I don't really keep track of my spending. I definitely save a small fortune not eating beef jerky anymore. Still spend a lot on groceries.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: Mystikal] * 1
    #28638653 - 01/28/24 07:21 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I couldn't live with out meat personally I do love it in things but I've gotten down to only having chicken and turkey. I've always hated handmade sandwiches that I made because they're messy but I was just doing it wrong. Now I'm making chicken sandwiches with barely any chicken slices, jalapeño chesse,salted red onion, salted avocado, tomato and spicy sweet Sriracha. Good shit


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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #28638668 - 01/28/24 07:31 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Yeah, i love those veggie or meat sandwiches. Sliced deli meat is usually what I use but sometimes i will go full veggie. With sandwiches, its all about getting the right ratio of ingredients.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: Joh.Ke] * 2
    #28638791 - 01/28/24 09:16 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

God I love meat, but it is probably healthier to be a vegetarian. I'm not sure I could ever do it though. It's like one of those things you know is healthy but just can't bring yourself to do. I just don't think I can give up steak, bacon, or burgers.

Is it cheaper? I honestly really doubt it. Most healthy things tend to be more expensive than unhealthy things.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: nooneman]
    #28638816 - 01/28/24 10:00 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I just paid 15 bucks for a salad, pretty sure its way more expensive to be a veganoid


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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: nooneman] * 3
    #28638826 - 01/28/24 10:25 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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God I love meat, but it is probably healthier to be a vegetarian. I'm not sure I could ever do it though. It's like one of those things you know is healthy but just can't bring yourself to do. I just don't think I can give up steak, bacon, or burgers.

Is it cheaper? I honestly really doubt it. Most healthy things tend to be more expensive than unhealthy things.




I’m confused when people equate vegetables as being healthier for you than lean red meat. Grass fed beef is one of the most nutrient dense foods on earth, and whenever I eat it I get a notable boost mentally, as well as physically.

Yes, it can be expensive, but it is also fills you up far more and for far longer than if you were just crunching lettuce and carrots, etc. if I had a steak for breakfast, I can go an entire day without eating again—or just having a light snack at night.  If you actually took a look at the $, and could commit to just one or two meals a day, you’d probably be on par with a “eat five times a day” routine…or even come out in front.

I stay away from bacon and all other cured meats. They’re known carcinogens *sips a beer and flicks a butt*.

To the OP: I feel your pain mate, trust me I do. You can survive quite happily (and I have) with a bag of jasmine rice, two carrots, an onion, capsicum, canned green beans and red kidney beans. Add soy, maybe some Chinese five spice or just salt and pepper. Total cost (Aussie dollars: less than $20). And it’ll you get through multiple days. 

Just spit balling. Cut out one meal a day. You don’t need it. Eat 2-3 eggs for breakfast and just sail through the entire day without touching anything else!


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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28638872 - 01/29/24 12:14 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

In my opinion. You can just look at a grocery store frozen pack of burgers. And compare that to a frozen pack of veggie patties. To actually get the same amount that you would for the price of this big bag of ground beef burger patties. That would cost maybe four or five times as much in veggie patty.
Actually trying to buy fresh fruit and vegetables to cook every day. Would be so much more expensive than just buying crap that you can microwave.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28638893 - 01/29/24 01:21 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I spent years veggo and didn't really notice it being much cheaper. I buy meat on special and fruit and veg in season now. Rice, beans and pasta are purchased bulk when they go to half price specials. I think we can do pretty good eating if we buy fresh stuff in season and cook ourselves. Usually the only processed foods I get are dairy, breakfast cereal (no lolly stuff), and chocolate. Chocolate is great. Food of the gods.


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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
    #28638895 - 01/29/24 01:35 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
I know health is important too, but I believe I could probably "cheat" once a week or so to get the nutrients I need.  For now I wish to know if it's cheaper to eat fruits, veggies and nuts only.  Trying to save money.  Poor as f*ck at the moment.

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Really depends on other factors apart from whether you eat meat/fish or not.
Meat is remarkably (ridiculously) cheap, so it's easy to eat cheap + eat meat.
We eat mostly vegetarian (occasionally fish) and our spend on groceries is definitely well above average for the country we live in. This goes to show that vegetarian does not equate cheap.

If you want/ need to cheap out, just go to the store (or online) and see what gets you the most calories per buck and go with that. You'll end up buying lots of beans, legumes, grains and rice - all of them dry, not canned. Soak & cook at home.

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You can just look at a grocery store frozen pack of burgers. And compare that to a frozen pack of veggie patties. To actually get the same amount that you would for the price of this big bag of ground beef burger patties. That would cost maybe four or five times as much in veggie patty.




Yeah, true. Which illustrates a problem with how meat is priced & valued vs. vegetarian alternatives. It's not an inherent difference in the food itself, it's a market anomaly that exists to a large extent by the grace of the food industry trying to optimize the profits made from relatively affluent vegetarians. And on the other hand the systematic atrocities committed to sustain a meat industry that is really not sustainable the way it's being run presently. There's an artificial price inflation of vegetarian meat-substitutes and an artificial price deflation of meat due to externalities that are simply not being paid, and instead being passed on to present and future society.
Of course, the easy option is to just disregard those 'meat substitutes' because they're unnecessary anyway. They're basically just an invention that attempts to make a vegetarian option attractive (and thus also maximize profits) for a generally meat-eating public. With some success, it has to be said. Not a whole lot, but a little, for sure.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (is it safer?) [Re: Milleresque] * 1
    #28638898 - 01/29/24 01:37 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I did some quick research, and it appears there is no consensus on meat being harmful to your health. Its a "maybe": https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat

So eating too much meat could be unhealthy but it could also be fine for Human health.

As for veggies, theres literally zero risk of eating large amounts, excluding contaminated veggies of course...

Now if you hunt for your own meat, thats likely more healthy and can save money in the long-term.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: koraks] * 3
    #28638900 - 01/29/24 01:40 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I’m not trying to fool myself into thinking I’m eating a burger patty. I genuinely like veggie patties. I’m particularly fond of the new horizon ones I think is the name. They lean a little heavier on the black bean.
But I gotta admit, the beyond beef is really good.
Great texture.

@ logical chaos
It’s not that meat is inherently bad for you. It’s the amount of it that is being consumed. In particular red meat. Very high fat content.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28638907 - 01/29/24 01:51 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

My research came to the same answers LC. I don't reckon meat is harmful if you avoid the processed stuff. It's high density nutrition. Just everything in moderation.


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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28638929 - 01/29/24 02:46 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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But I gotta admit, the beyond beef is really good.




Is that the same stuff as beyond meat? We eat that a lot, too. It's nice, albeit on the expensive side for what it is (refined plant protein).
At some point, I developed a mild intolerance to soy, and beyond meat is made of fava beans or something similar, so it was nice to be able to throw that into our diet by means of variety. The soy issue went away after a few weeks going easy on it; I used to eat soy twice a day on most days, in some form. Apparently, that was too much, at least for me.

We consider beyond meat a bit of a guilty pleasure, similar to fish (although for different reasons).

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My research came to the same answers LC. I don't reckon meat is harmful if you avoid the processed stuff. It's high density nutrition. Just everything in moderation.



Moderation, yes, and mode of preparation also plays a role. Grilled meat isn't such a good idea - but that's not meat-specific. It goes for grilled anything.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28639220 - 01/29/24 11:04 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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I know health is important too, but I believe I could probably "cheat" once a week or so to get the nutrients I need.  For now I wish to know if it's cheaper to eat fruits, veggies and nuts only.  Trying to save money.  Poor as f*ck at the moment.

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Sorry to hear you are in such a tight spot.  My Preparedness topic has lots of info on storable foods that are nutritious, mostly veggie and cheap. It has a covid store dash shopping list that has some of the biggest nutrition bang for your buck.

Try to invest in a bit of a emergency stockpile. Think canned veggies, oatmeal and beyond. You will want to be able to bridge the gap to next payday with foods you don't eat for lust but for life.




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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: Asante]
    #28639684 - 01/29/24 04:48 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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I know health is important too, but I believe I could probably "cheat" once a week or so to get the nutrients I need.  For now I wish to know if it's cheaper to eat fruits, veggies and nuts only.  Trying to save money.  Poor as f*ck at the moment.

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Sorry to hear you are in such a tight spot.  My Preparedness topic has lots of info on storable foods that are nutritious, mostly veggie and cheap. It has a covid store dash shopping list that has some of the biggest nutrition bang for your buck.

Try to invest in a bit of a emergency stockpile. Think canned veggies, oatmeal and beyond. You will want to be able to bridge the gap to next payday with foods you don't eat for lust but for life.







Interesting, Assante.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28639693 - 01/29/24 04:55 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Asante is a prepper.
It is a very good thing to have a stable supply of food just in case something did happen. Personally, I keep about two weeks of food. Various dry goods and pantry stuff.

I heard of a guy who was kept as a POW for decades. When he finally got home, he had a secret panel under his kitchen. That he could lift up and it had barrels full of grain sugar, flour, water, all sorts of stuff.

He said it just made him feel better knowing it was there. He didn’t even necessarily need to use it. It was just a comfort, knowing there was always food.

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Re: Is it cheaper to be a vegetarian (change and save) [Re: Milleresque] * 1
    #28639957 - 01/29/24 09:05 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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God I love meat, but it is probably healthier to be a vegetarian. I'm not sure I could ever do it though. It's like one of those things you know is healthy but just can't bring yourself to do. I just don't think I can give up steak, bacon, or burgers.

Is it cheaper? I honestly really doubt it. Most healthy things tend to be more expensive than unhealthy things.




I’m confused when people equate vegetables as being healthier for you than lean red meat. Grass fed beef is one of the most nutrient dense foods on earth, and whenever I eat it I get a notable boost mentally, as well as physically.



Eating more meat has actually been linked to a bunch of bad things like cancer and shorter lifespan. Ever seen a fat vegetarian?

I love meat, but just saying it's one of the many, many foods that taste good but aren't good for you. Nothing wrong with it, not judging anyone, I like it as much as the next guy and have no plans on giving it up.

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