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Shroomguy101
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Have you ever regretted sharing with friends?
#28636641 - 01/27/24 09:03 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Did anything bad happen to them as a result that made you regret giving to them? They do have a couple of experiences in the past and trip in a group at safe locations
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Shroomguy101] 1
#28636664 - 01/27/24 09:22 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Not yet, but other than my wife… I can’t get anyone to get interested in tripping. Most of my friends are in their 40’s like me and I guess have too much going on. Feels kinda lonely honestly. I do know some people that I wouldn’t give it to tho cuz I’m not sure they would do well in that state and I would spend the whole time babysitting lol.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Goodlife0209] 2
#28636877 - 01/27/24 12:21 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Hate sharing with scavengers
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: bling] 1
#28636996 - 01/27/24 02:35 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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It is a weird situation.
It feels like the universe has its own timeline. Are we a tool of the universe and our friends are ready? Or are we forcing our friends to do something premature?
Try to be natural and organic. Don't do anything artificial.
Shrooms are way more powerful than we understand. Reality can break. People can go into a mental hospital for 2 months. Sexual abuse or past memories can resurface. So be kind and compassionate and use your instinct.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Shroomguy101] 1
#28637337 - 01/27/24 07:19 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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i dont share drugs they are all for me sorry and plus i don't want that liability, whether it be mentally or otherwise
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: TerraMoon] 1
#28637514 - 01/28/24 12:00 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah I’ve shared stuff with people who’ve had too much/been on meds and have ended up having bad times… definitely regret not preparing them properly beforehand.
I’ve also regretted giving things to people who haven’t appreciated it or who’ve talked down to me during the experience with them. Psychedelics can really illuminate the problems in bad relationships…
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Bardy] 3
#28637530 - 01/28/24 12:23 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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You may find yourself taking care of an inconsolable human being who is having every sort of negative emotion and or thought, who is in an extremely enhanced state of time altered delirium coupled with a loss of self recognition, who may be feeling severe and confusing physical sensations such a loss of motor coordination and extreme nausea, and who may act in extremely irrational ways.
You may also have a great time and get to know your friend on a deeper level. You may become entwined on a deep and powerfully telepathic journey together.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Nichrome] 5
#28637584 - 01/28/24 02:59 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I have vague memories of not giving freely and then feeling bad afterwards, can't remember what though. Learned that lesson. People have given me so much stuff too so it all just flows around.
I've never dosed someone too far and not been able to talk them down. But have been through some hairy shit from giving myself too much. Oh my.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Bardy]
#28637880 - 01/28/24 10:01 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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what do mean the shrooms made them talk down to you or it was always there how they felt and shrooms made it come out? could it just be the drugs and not how they really feel? seems sort of like alcohol in that sense of destroying relationships the way you make ti sound
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Shroomguy101]
#28689395 - 03/06/24 10:36 PM (2 months, 10 days ago) |
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Accidentally gave a friend too strong of a dose. I wasn't thinking and gave him a dose for when I want to trip the fuck out. He didn't have that bad of a trip, except some bad anxiety on the upswing. Said it was definitely intense and a bit too much. Felt bad, man.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Shroomguy101]
#28689460 - 03/07/24 01:19 AM (2 months, 10 days ago) |
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Many many years ago when I was much younger and dumber, I regret one of the total of 3 people I ever shared with. Never shared with anyone else after that.
He had some sadistic sociopathic tendencies before psychedelics, not bad, but definitely there to a small degree. I low dosed him since it was his first time. He had a fine time, but afterwards, his sociopathic and sadistic tendencies were significantly increased. I probably did some net harm in the world by dosing him.
Never again, it's too dangerous.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Shroomguy101]
#28693687 - 03/10/24 10:37 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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I want to experience tripping with someone else, but goddamn, even when i think i'm capable of handling what is thrown my way i am always surprised of the levels to this shit, i've definitely gone down some dark but necessary paths while tripping which have fucked with my mood for periods of weeks or months before im back on my feet.
I don't want to risk that possibility on anyone else especially if they don't understand / havn't dealt with past traumas effectively enough, information you're not ready to deal with being forced upon you is hard enough sober let alone balls deep.
I do seriusly wish tho i had a group of people interested in experiencing it the same way i am, but i think the same thing goes in all areas of an individuals life, for some reason having your experiences validated and shared by another individual makes them so much more real.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: bling]
#28720311 - 03/30/24 02:21 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
bling said: Hate sharing with scavengers
Lol...
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: zenaim] 1
#28720798 - 03/30/24 09:26 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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One time, I gave a friend of mine about 5 grams or so of dried cubensis. Flash forward about a month: I plan to take this friend and a few others for a boat ride to the beach for an evening. They meet me at the dock, get on board and we set off. I had planned to take them into town to eat at a dockside restaurant before heading over to an island to play on the beach.
About 20 minutes go by, we're almost to the dock in town, and I come to the realization that all of a sudden, I'm their trip sitter for the evening. Unknown to me, they had apparently split that 5 grams 3 ways in a tea right before they got to the dock. Not a major dose but 2 of the 3 had never taken psychedelics before.
I'm mildly irritated at this point and hadn't eaten yet so I'm hungry. I said fuck it, got to the dock and took them to this dive bar and got a burger to go. They start getting uncomfortable. Not freaking out but definitely not having a good time. This restaurant is not a really good atmosphere for tripping but again, I was irritated and didn't care. After I got my burger though, I put on my tripsitter hat, led them back to the boat and took them to the beach where they had a blast.
For the most part, I was hands off and let them do their own thing. I was monitoring the radar though as there were some thunderstorms in the area. I envy them really because in addition to a fantastic time at the beach, they got a good lightning show. The storms split and went on either side of us by a few miles, never a drop of rain. We boated back in the dark and ran into some bright patches of bioluminesence. They were coming down at this point and having loads of fun.
All in all it was a good experience for them and they had a blast but being put on the spot as a spur of the moment tripsitter sucked. Do I regret it? I guess not now. It's a good memory. I was just looking forward to not having to be responsible for everyone that afternoon, have a few beers ect...
-------------------- Things I've learned so far: Death with consciousness can be boring. Balance is important. Set intentions, not expectations. Sad trips can be helpful as well as challenging trips. Stick with your first dose. We learn more when we listen rather than speak. Be kind. The small moments in life that tend to go unnoticed are sometimes the most beautiful.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Orioncat] 1
#28720867 - 03/30/24 11:35 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Yes. Back in my growing days, I ran a few tubs of PE where every first flush blobbed heavily. I ground the blobs and stored the powder in a jar for later. PE is already very potent. Blobs, which are similar to aborted pins in the context of potency by volume, are potent. Blob powder is potent. There's a theme here, heh.
Camping with friends who I'd tripped with on the camping trip before, I brought the powder to trip again. It was planned and everyone knew of the mix and potency and all that. Unfortunately, I forgot the scale. Eyeballing PE blob powder for 8+ people Lemon Tekking is, uh, probably not the wisest. Anyway, we drank up.
Everything was fine until one of the girls went off to pee. She took a while coming back so we began to wonder if things were alright. I went down to find her and rounded a corner in the woods and saw her peeing. She screamed, "WTF, STARE, YOU PERVERT. I TOLD YOU TO STOP WATCHING ME PEE! WHY ARE YOU FILMING?" as if I wasn't using my phone for the flashlight. She scrambles to pull her pants up and heads up the trail to our group. I stop masturbating and put my dinger back in my pants, running after to explain.
Nah, just joshing. The first two sentences are true, though. So we're wondering where she is and shortly after, she reappears, looking kind of distressed. We asked her if things were okay and she said, "I don't know. Almost just had a bad trip down there!" or something to that extent. At that point, the mood kind of shifted and I could see other people influenced by what she said. Like an internal monolog developing of, "Oh shit, am I also about to start having a bad trip?"
It probably didn't help that the previous trip was warm summer and it was cold and rainy out there now. Anyway, after that, they had no more fun. Nobody freaked out or anything, but some were extremely stressed, waiting for it to be over, just kind of rocking by the fire. I spent the next few hours juggling responsibilities, helping them with whatever, while high as fuck myself.
I definitely think it highlights just how susceptible and vulnerable our mind state is on psychedelics. While I remember the girl's "bad trip" suggestion as the catalyst for the negative emotions felt after, it'd be irresponsible of me to blame her (and it's possible I'm wrong in my recollection, too).
Everything was still ultimately my responsibility, I feel. Even if it was her vibe bringing down the group's vibe, me forgetting the scale almost certainly played a part in that. I don't think I gave them more than they could handle, but the fact that they knew I didn't measure the doses was certainly in the back of their minds.
I'm probably at like 95% for having facilitated great trips with friends, though.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: Orioncat]
#28720874 - 03/30/24 11:53 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Orioncat said: About 20 minutes go by, we're almost to the dock in town, and I come to the realization that all of a sudden, I'm their trip sitter for the evening. Unknown to me, they had apparently split that 5 grams 3 ways in a tea right before they got to the dock. Not a major dose but 2 of the 3 had never taken psychedelics before.
Damn, that's lame of your friend, tbh. Glad everything worked out, though. I had a friend come over to trip once and she brought this dude I'd never met. For obvious reasons, I personally don't like tripping with people I've never met. I don't need to be BFF with folks and am comfortable around strangers myself, but you never know, haha.
Anyway, whatever, I still feel like tripping. Right before they go down the hatch, homeboy says, "By the way, I was in the military and have pretty bad PTSD." LOL, classic timing.
One of my "rules" when tripping with folks is that everyone respects everyone's right to dictate/change the flow of things if they're having a hard time. As such, if at any point you're not feeling something, whether it be music choice, activity, going outside, it's imperative you voice it without any fear of criticism or bringing down the vibe. I want peeps to know that we're all in this together and we all have each other's backs.
We were walking around outside my neighborhood around 1AM. I suggested we go down this one block, not particularly well lit up from our angle. He got kind of scared. "I don't want to go down that way." I looked at him and said, "Bro, don't be a fucking pussy. What, you afraid Jody is down there, plowing your girl?" while lighting firecrackers and playing Flight of the Valkyries on my phone.
Nah, just joshing, but everthing until that last sentence is true. I actually just said, "No doubt, man. Which way should we go?" and let him pick. Good vibes are important, yo. I've found that letting people know ahead of time that however they're feeling is valid and won't be an issue to share is conducive to a good trip.
Anyway, he actually was totally fine and we had a pretty fun time together.
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I just remembered another friend of the girl in the story above actually had a meltdown on mush. She worked herself into crying about the thought of some girl she traveled with being abducted. Like, that never happened. She was imagining if it could've happened. This is why I like to know who I'm tripping with. Preferably folks who can recognize their mind is trekking toward that kind of path and divert it toward something better, haha.
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Re: Have you ever regretted sharing with friends? [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#28720987 - 03/31/24 06:56 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said:
One of my "rules" when tripping with folks is that everyone respects everyone's right to dictate/change the flow of things if they're having a hard time. As such, if at any point you're not feeling something, whether it be music choice, activity, going outside, it's imperative you voice it without any fear of criticism or bringing down the vibe. I want peeps to know that we're all in this together and we all have each other's backs.
I love this. It's so important for people to feel mentally comfortable with others while they're tripping.
-------------------- Things I've learned so far: Death with consciousness can be boring. Balance is important. Set intentions, not expectations. Sad trips can be helpful as well as challenging trips. Stick with your first dose. We learn more when we listen rather than speak. Be kind. The small moments in life that tend to go unnoticed are sometimes the most beautiful.
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