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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28637849 - 01/28/24 09:40 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Killing people? Possibly. Blowing myself up? That’s dumb.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28637855 - 01/28/24 09:44 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

It’s only because we (westerners) view it was cowardice rather than sacrifice.

We all understand it when Tom Hanks tells Matt Damon to earn his life in Saving Private Ryan, or any other movie where the heroic hero stays behind for the greater good. Maybe it’s more to do with us immediately seeing the benefit. “Oh he stayed behind because it allowed the group of good guys to escape,” or something like that. Maybe it’s because we just see the Palestinian cause as hopeless.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28637864 - 01/28/24 09:51 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Bro. What you don't understand is that it doesn't matter if Hamas raped people or not.

The Israeli response is way disproportionate and is aimed at deliberately slaughtering civilians. It is not justified by Hamas allegedly raping someone. "Mowing the grass", as they put it in their own words. Saying they aren't deliberately killing civilians is hilariously wrong. The Israelis lie all the time, which you apparently don't understand. At the same time, the media has their backs for the most part with little criticism, and in some cases perpetuates their lies, which further confirms your bias.

We have been lied to many times about the armies of countries we don't like allegedly engaging in mass rape. It's a narrative that is always pushed because it triggers that primal part of the male brain which goes apeshit when it perceives violence against women. They lied about Assad's and Gaddhafi's soldiers "mass raping" too. Just to justify regime change in these countries and support for terrorist groups. But even *if* there were a few isolated instances of rape, it doesn't justify killing 30k civilians. You want to be better than the people you hate, not worse.

The fact is, Israel and their army were humiliated, literally caught with their pants down on October 7th. So their response was to just slaughter as many people as they felt like to try and remind the "human animals" who's boss.

The Israelis are themselves just as bad as Hamas if not worse in some ways due to their technological advantage. I mean killing hundreds of people with snipers during a protest where the people were unarmed and had nothing but rocks? That's insane and wouldn't be tolerated in any country on Earth but Israel. Well, maybe a few other third world shitholes where there is a media blackout.

All you need to do is go on Twitter to see the random atrocities and killings which are carried out daily by Israelis. There is always some horrible story being posted because it is constantly happening. Kids being shot by snipers despite carrying a white flag, people being blasted by tanks while they run screaming through the streets. It's terrible. But this is what happens when you have an entire country that has dehumanized an entire ethnic group in their minds. I've watched videos of how the settlers teach their children it's okay to murder Palestinians. It's insane. These people growing up in this environment don't stand a chance to break out of this.

There is only one path forward that could possibly fix this mess. That is the path of forgiveness. Both sides must commit to this, and this is only possible if both sides have the humility to admit wrongdoing. Sadly I don't see this capability for humility present in Israel. Making matters worse, they are enabled and encouraged in this behavior by the US government.

The Israelis are trying to commit to ethnically cleansing and wiping out the Palestinians completely for good as the "solution" to the problem instead. This won't work and until they find the humility to admit wrongdoing, this conflict will continue indefinitely.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28637865 - 01/28/24 09:52 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Even during the height of Palestinian suicide attacks during the Second Intifada it wasn’t like..





Nice.

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Admittedly, it’s because you were raised in a society where injuring one soldier with a suicide bomb is far more barbaric than killing 100 civilians by bombing a hospital.





self awareness right? Where’s yours?

You are defending suicide bombings. Can you admit it’s because our privileged society allows you to pretend to know what it’s like to be truly oppressed? you have no idea neither do I.

I thought saving pvt ryan was a over dramatic flag waving affair far from the horrors of real combat. Especially the ending.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28637872 - 01/28/24 09:57 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Why don't they just compromise and share the fucking land? Jesus Christ. It's childish as fuck. "U kill my brother." "U killed my brother, so I kill urs." "Now i kill your whole family." "And now I kill everyone you have ever met."


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28637879 - 01/28/24 10:00 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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It’s only because we (westerners) view it was cowardice rather than sacrifice.

We all understand it when Tom Hanks tells Matt Damon to earn his life in Saving Private Ryan, or any other movie where the heroic hero stays behind for the greater good. Maybe it’s more to do with us immediately seeing the benefit. “Oh he stayed behind because it allowed the group of good guys to escape,” or something like that. Maybe it’s because we just see the Palestinian cause as hopeless.




The tactic of self sacrifice isn't as effective in real life as in the movies on the battlefield against an organized military .
  It's allot more effective used as a tool of terrorism  on innocent civilians . I don't really think the two things are comparable .


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28637881 - 01/28/24 10:01 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Because humans are sick. All of us.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28637883 - 01/28/24 10:02 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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It’s only because we (westerners) view it was cowardice rather than sacrifice.

We all understand it when Tom Hanks tells Matt Damon to earn his life in Saving Private Ryan, or any other movie where the heroic hero stays behind for the greater good. Maybe it’s more to do with us immediately seeing the benefit. “Oh he stayed behind because it allowed the group of good guys to escape,” or something like that. Maybe it’s because we just see the Palestinian cause as hopeless.




The tactic of self sacrifice isn't as effective in real life as in the movies on the battlefield against an organized military .
  It's allot more effective used as a tool of terrorism  on innocent civilians . I don't really think the two things are comparable .




Nah he saw it in a movie he knows what’s it all about.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28637888 - 01/28/24 10:05 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Bro. What you don't understand is that it doesn't matter if Hamas raped people or not.





    Actually I'd say allot of already knew you and others don't give a flying if Hamas rapes anyone .  That's kinda what you convey when you demand a ridiculously high standard of evidence from a battlefield where people are being killed .


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28637895 - 01/28/24 10:09 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

This aint ur fault nor mine. This isn't the result of some unsolvable, necessary and natural condition. It is petty and childish, and it boils down to greed and insanity.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28637897 - 01/28/24 10:12 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Has hamas surrendered or are they still lobbing missiles?

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28637922 - 01/28/24 10:40 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I'm so sick of these pedophile, depraved, murderous, greedy muslim tyrants. That is what they are. They actually believe the warlord moron's Quran, and I suspect they rape little girls regularly. And probably little boys too. Abrahamic priests love nothing more than raping children. What is baffling to me, and different about Islam, is how the Quran ratifies it. That is what is going on here. Pedophile, psychopath imams. Islam needs extirpation. It's getting out of control.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28637929 - 01/28/24 10:45 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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It’s only because we (westerners) view it was cowardice rather than sacrifice.

We all understand it when Tom Hanks tells Matt Damon to earn his life in Saving Private Ryan, or any other movie where the heroic hero stays behind for the greater good. Maybe it’s more to do with us immediately seeing the benefit. “Oh he stayed behind because it allowed the group of good guys to escape,” or something like that. Maybe it’s because we just see the Palestinian cause as hopeless.




If I grew up in a hopeless ass situation like Gaza, you can bet your ass I'd do whatever it took to get revenge. It's not hard to understand. Any idealistic person, with a small dose of courage, and a lifetime of horrors to avenge, for themselves, and their family, would gladly sacrifice themselves for that purpose.

I'll tell you what, when I look at those Houthis... What they are doing, putting themselves in harms way for their fellow man in Palestine... A truly altruistic endeavor, challenging the most powerful military in the history of the world...

I got nothing but respect.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #28637939 - 01/28/24 10:51 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Pelosi says the calls for a ceasefire (which 80% of the Democratic base supports) is a Putin lie

https://x.com/jacobkornbluh/status/1751619039909048410?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28637952 - 01/28/24 11:05 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Three US soldiers died at or near the Al-tanf base in Syria. 30+ injured.https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1751642342589628607

I was wondering when this would finally happen. All these suicide drone attacks and no deaths or injuries.. until now. They call them "Iranian proxies" in the media but in reality everybody in the middle east hates America equally for obvious reasons and these various resistance groups operate more or less independently without taking orders from some higher power.

I'm sure the response from the Biden regime will be totally level headed and proportionate...

The US needs to get the fuck out of Syria and it's a damn shame that Trump walked back his decision to leave under pressure from the Israel and Neocon lobby. Our position there is completely untenable. But at-least these soldiers can rest easy knowing they died for a worthy cause... ensuring that the remaining Al-Qaeda terrorists in the region, which are still useful to destabilize Syria, had a safe haven at Al-tanf.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28637963 - 01/28/24 11:15 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

You misrepresent like falcon she said some not all protest outside her house might be Russian backed.

You said pelosi says calls for a ceasefire is Russian propaganda. That’s quite a difference. I’m trying to understand the points you made to me but you are making it impossible to take you seriously:shrug:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Putin was trying to leverage Gaza towards his advantage. it’s easy to play off the suffering of others.

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    #28637970 - 01/28/24 11:18 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Nah it’s just interesting how every single time our government acts undemocratically it’s the fault of some Official Enemy. But it’s good that you’re interpreting this as good faith!


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    #28637971 - 01/28/24 11:19 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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You misrepresent like falcon she said some not all protest outside her house might be Russian backed.

You said pelosi says calls for a ceasefire is Russian propaganda. That’s quite a difference.




What's the difference?

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Wouldn’t surprise me if Putin was trying to leverage Gaza towards his advantage. it’s easy to play off the suffering of others.




If anything the war in Gaza, and the US funding for it, benefits Putin. Why would he be backing calls for a ceasefire? It doesn't even pass the sniff test. Democrats need to quite crying "Putin" and get their shit together man.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28637976 - 01/28/24 11:21 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Nah it’s just interesting how every single time our government acts undemocratically it’s the fault of some Official Enemy. But it’s good that you’re interpreting this as good faith!




Useful Democrats, I call them. It really is crazy to see Democrats line up in support of every neocon initiative these days.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #28637984 - 01/28/24 11:24 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Nah it’s just interesting how every single time our government acts undemocratically it’s the fault of some Official Enemy. But it’s good that you’re interpreting this as good faith!




Dude fuck pelosi that’s not what I said I said you are misrepresenting a video. the content is irrelevant if you can’t help but lie about what’s being said.

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