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Bringing back the draft?
    #2863779 - 07/07/04 04:46 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

What are your thoughts on this? is it going to happen?
i know that the states have already made a deal with the prime minister of canada stating that canada will not accept draft dodgers from america.

What else could that mean?

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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2863781 - 07/07/04 04:50 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think it would happen.
If it did i would go.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2863952 - 07/07/04 07:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Six months ago, I'd have said it won't happen.

Now, with all the noise about Iran and the theory that the WMD's may have went to Syria.... I'm not so sure.

I think it would be a mistake, but mistakes are what the Feds do best.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2863959 - 07/07/04 07:11 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

you know where im going if the draft comes back?





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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2863967 - 07/07/04 07:19 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'll be 47 in a couple weeks and have a bad leg so I doubt I'd be drafted.

If I was younger though, what I'd do would depend on what the draft was for.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2863968 - 07/07/04 07:20 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I've already served so you fuckers are on your own. :razz:


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2864020 - 07/07/04 08:33 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Invertigo, they can put you back in if you are young enough.

As for me, they wont take an epileptic, so im fine.

I hope the draft comes back, force some people to become of some actual use in society.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Redo]
    #2864031 - 07/07/04 08:45 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

> I hope the draft comes back, force some people to become of some actual use in society.

Me too, though I think they should use the damaged stock rather then the healthy stock to fight... I mean, why not send away the people with back problems, or flat feet, or epilepsy, or mental problems first... they have got less to lose when they die compared to the rest of us which are healthy... (Sarcasm for the humor impaired...)


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Seuss]
    #2864034 - 07/07/04 08:51 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Because you cant send somebody with health problems into battle, they are a liability


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Redo]
    #2864081 - 07/07/04 09:49 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Invertigo, they can put you back in if you are young enough.




not if you've served your 8 year obligation no matter how young you are...i've served mine, plus i'm 33 so i'm in the clear.

There will not be another draft (hopefully) and the president who inacts it will not serve another tern nor finish the one their in.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2864345 - 07/07/04 11:47 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I dont know why I felt like I needed to notify you, of all people you should be telling me how it works specifically =b.

I dont think there will be a draft, but most of Europe would love to see it im sure.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Redo]
    #2864430 - 07/07/04 12:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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but most of Europe would love to see it im sure




would they like to see it there or here?


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2864442 - 07/07/04 12:16 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The people in Europe would love to laugh about the US draft coming back, just like alot of us (at least people I know) had a good laugh about spain going socialist.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2864443 - 07/07/04 12:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Here, so they can be stationed there.

Cheaper for them that way.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2864501 - 07/07/04 12:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

re-instituting the draft would be political suicide.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2864510 - 07/07/04 12:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

> re-instituting the draft would be political suicide

Unless, of course, you can hide it with a lot of patriotic hand waving... kinda like they did with the patriot act...

Lets not call it the draft anymore... that sounds kinda negative... lets call it the Patriotic Lottery! Yeah... nice ring to it...


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2864531 - 07/07/04 12:38 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Here, so they can be stationed there




Ha, good point. Let France protect them, they have nukes.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Seuss]
    #2864534 - 07/07/04 12:38 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

you can get a certain amount of compliance by employing social influence...

but when it comes down to it, when mommas are forced to send their babies off to war...

the shit will hit the fan.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Seuss]
    #2864537 - 07/07/04 12:39 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Unless, of course, you can hide it with a lot of patriotic hand waving




I don't know about that, but if you're going to initiate it that would be the only way.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2864598 - 07/07/04 12:53 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

> I don't know about that, but if you're going to initiate it that would be the only way.

Even so, I still think you guys are correct... political suicide. The draft is a lot like the war on drugs... an example of the government forcing the people into something that the people don't like or want. If the people care about the cause, the people will fight for it... using WWII as an example. If the people are against the cause, they will resist fighting for it...


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2864999 - 07/07/04 03:02 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think they could pull this off without another gift from al-qaeda, luckily Kerry will most likely receive an innauguration present.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2865552 - 07/07/04 05:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

There are currently twin bills before Congress advocating the reinstitution of the draft:

Bill H.R. 163 (presented by: Rangel, McDermott, Conyers, Lewis, Stark, and Abercrombie).
Bill S. 89 (presented by Hollings).

These bills are virtually the same. Briefly, both bills require BOTH men and women
between 18 and 26 to report for either military or civil service (those not chosen for
military duty will perform civil service). Options for deferments include a h.s. diploma,
cessation of satisfactory pursuit of same, turning 20. Conscientious Objection status is
possible and, if awarded, C.O's will serve in the civil service. The term of duty is 2
years. These bills, if instated, would call forth the draft as early as June 2005.

There has been no public discussion or, as far as I am aware, much disclosure on the fact that these are bills currently being discussed in Congress.


http://www.bushdraft.com/proof2.html

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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: fft2]
    #2865753 - 07/07/04 06:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

There has been no public discussion or, as far as I am aware, much disclosure on the fact that these are bills currently being discussed in Congress.

That is because both of those bills are jokes and will never pass.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2865824 - 07/07/04 06:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

History is full of bills that were jokes and should never have passed.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2865853 - 07/07/04 06:42 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Well yes, but the drafting of men AND women is absolutely fucking ridiculous.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2865866 - 07/07/04 06:45 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Well yes, but the drafting of men AND women is absolutely fucking ridiculous.




Why? It been done in Israel for years if I'm not mistaken.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2865882 - 07/07/04 06:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The situation in Isreal is very different from America's.

Cases of rape would be astronomical and maybe it is just me but i do not see the Average American woman fighting effectively in a war.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2866143 - 07/07/04 07:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You know whats funny? Somebody posted a link to some site called "bushdraft" or something similar. Somebody else said it won't happen because Kerry will win. Here's the fucking joke on all you guys. Every single sponsor listed on those bills is a, hold your breath, DEMOCRAT. Kerry himself has raised the idea of two years of national service. Some people made a point that he didn't explicitly say it would be mandatory but if it's not mandatory it's just a jerk-off call for more peace corps volunteers (how's that program going these days by the way). Wake up children, the Democrats want to own you in a way that will make you beg for Big Bubba in a prison cell


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2866187 - 07/07/04 08:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Well, now that we have "handed over" power to the "new" Iraqi government, we need some 5,000 more troops. When the "real" Iraqi elections come and they are a fully sovereign nation, then we will probably need another 50,000 troops so we must get ready.

Standard Bizarro logic.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Swami]
    #2866226 - 07/07/04 08:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Stop the draft....Vote Bush


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2866362 - 07/07/04 09:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Bush wants to invade other countries and unless they reorganize the military, they will have to start the draft.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: downforpot]
    #2866401 - 07/07/04 09:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

No, they won't have to start the draft. Why don't you think they will reorganize the military (why are there thousands and thousands of troops in Germany and S. Korea?), and what do you think should be done about nukes in Iran and N. Korea? Why is it that everyone who sponsors the draft bill a DEMOCRAT and you still blame Bush, even though he is foursquare against it and has promised to veto it. Wake up, you are being a fool.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2868060 - 07/08/04 10:23 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The only good I can see from the draft is that it might actually be the catalyst for a serious movement. A movement against the current two party bullshit. Against war, hate, and greed. Against consumerism run amok, self-obsession, and mass destruction of the planet. Maybe there'd even be a bunch more psychedelic drugs around as well - kinda like the 60s.....

Gee, maybe the draft wouldn't be so bad after all.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2868973 - 07/08/04 03:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Actually I support Bush but he will probably have to start the draft if he stays in office and starts invading more countries.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2868992 - 07/08/04 03:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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d33p said:
The situation in Isreal is very different from America's.

Cases of rape would be astronomical and maybe it is just me but i do not see the Average American woman fighting effectively in a war.




most likely they'll just be around for clerical and adminstative type shit.

and who ever posted about syria... ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? They are saying the WMDs were moved to syria????? You've GOT to be mistaken I really hope you are mistaken.. WHAT A LOAD OF BS. Is there oil in syria?.. there must be.
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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: blu3]
    #2869037 - 07/08/04 04:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, what was said was "the theory is".

No claim was made as to there actually being WMD's in Syria. And please note it was used as a "potential" justification which could be used to re-instate the draft.

Edited for foolishness. And again for spelling.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2869340 - 07/08/04 05:45 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'd totally believe it though. I talk about this over lunch and someone told me that there IS untapped oil in syria and it would make perfect sense to attack *cough* "liberate" that country from terrorism.
since they really was no WMDs in the first place they can pretty much move them anywhere they want and provide no proof. Just like Iraq


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: blu3]
    #2869379 - 07/08/04 05:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yup. Notice how Bush is NOT on the TV telling Amercia how we must free the Sudanese people. (Wont happen until there is a silicon (sand) shortage anyway).


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Swami]
    #2869418 - 07/08/04 06:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

If you want to go, go. I personally have no interests in the Sudan. I do, however, have interests in the Middle East. As do we all in this country.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2871134 - 07/09/04 01:36 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I actually agree with the concept, but let me clarify, I agree that there should be a mandatory two year service term in which you would enter upon graduation of high school. You could choose where you serve, and if you weren't down with the military, you could serve elsewhere, like the peace corps, or Americorps, or HFH, whatever. College bound students could be exempt until they graduated.

The wording of this particular bill does not allow for this flexibility in choosing where you serve.

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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871139 - 07/09/04 01:37 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Slavery is still slavery, no matter where you serve.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871141 - 07/09/04 01:38 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Mandatory service Ewwwwwwwwwwww.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2871159 - 07/09/04 01:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

If you want to go, go. I personally have no interests in the Sudan. I do, however, have interests in the Middle East.

But, but, my president said we went to Iraq to free the people. Are you saying that is not why we spend billions of dollars and a thousand lives?


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871204 - 07/09/04 01:48 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

So it is ok to frorce someone to work for the gov't? sounds a lot like slavery to me.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2871250 - 07/09/04 01:58 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

As Seuss clearly stated: If people believe in the cause, no coercion is necessary.

If coercion is necessary, then the cause needs to be closely re-examined.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2871288 - 07/09/04 02:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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z@z.com said:
So it is ok to frorce someone to work for the gov't? sounds a lot like slavery to me.


Actually, when I think of slavery, I think of individuals reeping the benefits of the enslaved, not governments, but that's just what I think of.

Ok, fine, to all you bitching motherfuckers, how bout this, if you want to be eligable to recieve certain benefits (ie, social security, welfare, unemployment, etc) you have to serve the two years. You can opt out, but then you will be automatically exempt from select government subsidies, but you still have to pay taxes.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871300 - 07/09/04 02:09 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Skikid16 said:
Ok, fine, to all you bitching motherfuckers, how bout this, if you want to be eligable to recieve certain benefits (ie, social security, welfare, unemployment, etc) you have to serve the two years. You can opt out, but then you will be automatically exempt from select government subsidies, but you still have to pay taxes.



So instead of slavery we are robbed? Great deal there. I do not want any of those "benefits" by the way.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2871318 - 07/09/04 02:14 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

What do you mean robbed? What by paying taxes?
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I do not want any of those "benefits" by the way.


That's awesome, then don't volunteer. Hopefully you won't need those "benefits".

By the way, I know that my little tangent is throwing this thread off course, sorry. I'm just putting out an idea that was brought up to me by a good friend, and I'm just having fun with it.


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    #2871321 - 07/09/04 02:14 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Skikid16 said:
Quote:

z@z.com said:
So it is ok to frorce someone to work for the gov't? sounds a lot like slavery to me.


Actually, when I think of slavery, I think of individuals reeping the benefits of the enslaved, not governments, but that's just what I think of.

Ok, fine, to all you bitching motherfuckers, how bout this, if you want to be eligable to recieve certain benefits (ie, social security, welfare, unemployment, etc) you have to serve the two years. You can opt out, but then you will be automatically exempt from select government subsidies, but you still have to pay taxes.




So then once your plan is in place would giant praying mantises and huge brain bugs invade earth?


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871328 - 07/09/04 02:17 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you mean robbed? What by paying taxes?




You clearly stated one would pay for services and benefits which they would not recieve. Sounds like robbery to me.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2871355 - 07/09/04 02:23 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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d33p said:
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Skikid16 said:
What do you mean robbed? What by paying taxes?




You clearly stated one would pay for services and benefits which they would not recieve. Sounds like robbery to me.


I stated no such thing, I said nothing as to where the tax revenue would go. Do not put words in my mouth, my theory is flawed enough as is, shit I can barely type right now, the Beam and darvacet is working.

I made no mention where tax revenue would end up. Aw hell, screw you guys, I'm going to bed.


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Re: Bringing back the draft? [Re: Skikid16]
    #2871377 - 07/09/04 02:27 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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I stated no such thing, I said nothing as to where the tax revenue would go. Do not put words in my mouth, my theory is flawed enough as is, shit I can barely type right now, the Beam and darvacet is working.





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you will be automatically exempt from select government subsidies, but you still have to pay taxes.




That's robbery in my book. But then again any graduated income tax is robbery in my book.


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