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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: ToadFan]
    #28637115 - 01/27/24 04:19 PM (15 hours, 14 minutes ago)

That's not a good idea....

Listen to the advice you are getting here.  It is current.

Rye, Oats, Millet, WBS, etc.  Use any one of them.  There are prep teks for each.  Follow them.


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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: ToadFan] * 1
    #28637130 - 01/27/24 04:38 PM (14 hours, 55 minutes ago)

Honestly, even RR is out of date with a fair bit of his info.  Hang around in the cultivation section of these forums to learn more.  Threads I check daily are:

Ask quick questions, get quick answers
Post your cultivation picture of the day
cultivation confessional
cultivation general discussion

By monitoring the chatter in a lot of these and other shroomery chats I can stay current on what TEKs people are using, and what fads they are avoiding.  The picture thread is especially helpful as you can flat out see who is getting full canopies of healthy fruits, and who's just kinda retarded (That's me, actually developmentally disabled. :lol: ). Quick questions is especially useful for beginners as you will see common startup questions patiently answered over and over again by cultivators who are much better people than I.

I would HIGHLY advise you stay completely away from:

Facebook
Youtube
Instagram

And especially Reddit.
(narrows eyes at SP)

Mycotopia is functionally dead, so not much there either.


For the love of god, stay away from anything Uncle Bens.

Helpful threads:
Spores to Grain: Why it's discouraged & Recommended Alternatives

Uncle Ben's "Tek"


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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: Bobgas] * 1
    #28637143 - 01/27/24 04:46 PM (14 hours, 47 minutes ago)

Quote:

Bobgas said:
That's not a good idea....

Listen to the advice you are getting here.  It is current.

Rye, Oats, Millet, WBS, etc.  Use any one of them.  There are prep teks for each.  Follow them.




Dont forget the wheat berries! :awepreciation:


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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 1
    #28637253 - 01/27/24 06:11 PM (13 hours, 23 minutes ago)

I've found that with oats, you want to do them in the dry side, and PC longer than usual. Many people complain about hydration issues (mushy) with oats. Many complain about bacterial contamination, too, with them. Less water. More PC time.

I add 9 Cups oats, 5 Cups water, and 1 Tbsp Gypsum directly into my bags. I squash out the air, twist above the filter and zip tie it. I put two of these inside of a plastic grocery bag, and bow tie the bag. I put several of those bags into the PC, and do 15 psi for 5 hours. 5, because I'm paranoid. Could probably 4, but I wouldn't go less. Once it cools mix it around the bag. Some will be drier, some will be more moist, this will equalize enough over the following days.

I've used MS and LC on these. Works fine. It's cheap. People overcomplicate the f@&k out of grain prep. I rinse birdseed and cook it like rice, but with some Gypsum added. I run my stuff on the dry side because it's just better that way.


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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: ToadFan] * 1
    #28637496 - 01/27/24 11:30 PM (8 hours, 3 minutes ago)

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ToadFan said:
Thanks for all the feedback! I'm leaning towards brown rice now... I tried UB tek in the past and brown rice colonized faster than anything I've ever seen. I can get it in bulk at my local Costco aswell. I tried to make brown rice jars w/o a PC and it was contam city... can't wait for the PC lol.




Brown rice is fucked to prep. Make sure you shoot for under hydrated and maybe even go to the extent of laying it out to dry in no more than a 1" layer, refrigerating for a day or two, then bring it out and crumble it up cold. It might stay loose at that point. rice is a bitch if you need to shake it. It can grow nice cubes but it is a bitch.

I grow some species on supplemented white rice I just cook no prep style but it stays a chunk and is not supposed to be a shakable substance. Not cubes though.


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Re: Good budget grain spawn? [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #28637508 - 01/27/24 11:42 PM (7 hours, 51 minutes ago)

Definitely a pass on whole brown rice prep. Not even worth it. Its only really useful as flour in the PF Tek. I would argue that making PF cakes then spawning to bulk using vermiculite or coir is worth the extra effort and is a decent "budget grain" bulk option. BRF is quite cheap and easy to find. Plus you can make your own at home from whole rice which is fresher. Just dont do whole grain rice prep. Not worth it.


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