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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Mystikal]
    #28636133 - 01/26/24 08:06 PM (1 day, 3 hours ago)

I don't smoke nearly that much, but I use extracts and edibles a lot and I consider myself a heavy cannabis user because I use it near-daily. I travel a lot and it's hard to stay on my ADHD meds (don't know that those are much better, health-wise) so I find myself self-medicating with low doses of sativa quite a lot. No where near 4g a day though.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I came close to that during a good mushroom trip, I will chain smoke joint after joint, but only on mushrooms. I'm familiar with cannabis hyperemesis, I don't believe I'm suuuper at risk of it, but I should probably challenge myself to abstain for a bit regardless of that.



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says the guy who used 1-2gr mdma in a sitting




Did you lose the ability to piss for 12 hours like me when I megadosed. I drank a 6 pack and couldn't piss.






Yeeesh, as someone who's dealt with some serious kidney problems I feel triggered by this statement.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #28636308 - 01/26/24 10:54 PM (1 day, 26 minutes ago)

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If so, you're likely to get a new "weed disease".  Uncontrollable throwing up/nausea.  ERs have been noticing this trend since weed became legal in some countries/states.

How much weed do you smoke per day?




I average 4+ g of high quality, chemical free, natural bud per day easy. I don't fuck with concentrates so much although I do enjoy some good cold water or dry sift on rare occasion. I have been doing this for decades. For sure I have stopped at times for various reasons, but I can say that all in all for me life is much better and I have less health problems with a good daily regimen of various high quality cannabis flowers. My doctor says, "you should smoke as much as you can regularly, try to stay in a stoned state for all waking hours, and try to smoke a variety of different kinds". I've smoked probably half a gram just while typing this reply already. I regularly  cover myself in the residues of, breathe with, consume, and otherwise adore cannabis plants as a regular part of my life. To smoke them is to explore my own carbon I only borrowed to begin with.

The amount of quality terpene you inhale in a nice room filled with blooming cannabis is a divine medicine and health giving experience in it's self.

I have developed over time a dermatological reaction to the tiny hairs on the live plants.


This is my experience. I feel lucky to have such a relationship with cannabis and I feel grateful to have found it works for me.

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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal]
    #28636353 - 01/27/24 12:16 AM (23 hours, 5 minutes ago)

Even if I had the ability. I wouldn’t. Most people wouldn’t. Inexperienced users that don’t know what they’re doing and were given an entire brownie because their friend thought it would be funny. Is probably what happens most of the time when that is brought into an actual hospital.
Somebody says “no I’m a tough guy! I can do the same size dab that you just did.”

“ I’m not feeling it yet. Let’s smoke another one.”

Stupid people like that are always going to find a way to hurt themselves with drugs. They don’t respect them enough. I would guarantee that most if not all users aren’t going to repeat an experience like that. They’re usually going to find their limitations and they’re happy space. Then occupy it. They’re not going to try and push it to the point where they need to be hospitalized.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28636359 - 01/27/24 12:28 AM (22 hours, 52 minutes ago)

I don't think I could handle being high that often except in my younger years I had anxiety all the time and didn't know it but would grab anything to make me "feel better" but still got tired of being high all the time.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28636360 - 01/27/24 12:30 AM (22 hours, 50 minutes ago)

There’s a time for everything.
Being high all the time. Doesn’t leave you time to do a lot of other things.
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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28636363 - 01/27/24 12:42 AM (22 hours, 38 minutes ago)

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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28636402 - 01/27/24 03:12 AM (20 hours, 9 minutes ago)

Waiting for the man to limit potency on legal to save us, or I guess save you guys. I smoke about 2 maybe 3 grams of extracts a month, hopefully some syndrome I won't get wont limit my access. You guys know you get higher if you take breaks


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Mystikal] * 1
    #28636403 - 01/27/24 03:20 AM (20 hours, 1 minute ago)

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says the guy who used 1-2gr mdma in a sitting




Did you lose the ability to piss for 12 hours like me when I megadosed. I drank a 6 pack and couldn't piss.





a gram of mdma can kill you.

i didnt megadose, i took 8 125mg doses after another.

that only works well with a huge body.

My 125mg is about your 80mg.

Never take more than 120 + 80 in a sitting, what i did was nuts and iut was pre-2010 when my life was still awful.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Asante]
    #28636507 - 01/27/24 07:13 AM (16 hours, 7 minutes ago)

Drunken mistake for me, kept taking more as the night went on. I was pretty reckless pre 2010 too. My crack binges were pretty concerning. Probably almost died like that too.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Mystikal] * 3
    #28636896 - 01/27/24 12:36 PM (10 hours, 44 minutes ago)

Funny thing is, when I build tolerance to the level of 4g average per day of high quality flower, I don't get "stoned" nearly as easily or really that often. About a half hour when I first start and that' about it. Edibles are a completely different story and the cannabinoids are metabolized through completely different pathways which cause a lot more blood pressure shift, sugar metabolism shifts, but especially psycho activity and body load. If I eat edibles my day is over, I feel all the anxiety and rush, it's uncomfortable, I have more seizures instead of less. It is really easy to eat too much cannabis. I do eat edibles when I need extreme pain relief or forced rest. Then I at enough to put me down and at that point typically any negative psycho activity pales in comparison to whatever pain or suffering I am trying to remedy.

So long as I maintain my tolerance I smoke a lot and just maintain a non inflamed easy going state. People who smoke a lot less than me get way more stoned than I do.

Everybody has different metabolism. Not everything is for everybody.

To say someone else will experience this or that is not my place. Being told I'm going to develop some disease because of my cannabis usage is absolutely laughable, presumptuous, and extremely ignorant.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Nichrome]
    #28637085 - 01/27/24 03:46 PM (7 hours, 34 minutes ago)

Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome (CHS) caused me to quit smoking weed over half a year ago.
For the last 10 years I was almost always stoned, smoked often around 3g per day. Almost exclusively bong. From morning to evening. Financially, I was naturally still slowed down every now and then for a few days, sometimes even for a week.

In the first years these breaks were not such a problem
Eventually these breaks resulted in suppressed appetite.
Later it was like this, that the first 24h without consumption had no effects. From the second day I felt a bit queasy and from day 3, I could almost set my watch by it, then the vomiting
started and that lasted for a few days.
This process became a regularity at some point and mostly also the reason why I still got something to smoke despite the will to pause for a few weeks. Just because I couldn't stand this nausea.

But there were also always phases where it went well. If I only smoked for a few days and then paused for a few days, it didn't come to the vomiting anymore.
I kept that up for a long time but again and again weeks crept in, where I exaggerated it again and the result was always the same

I replaced bong with joints and that also went well for a while. I tended to consume less and the nausea in the breaks rarely caught up with me.
But gradually my consumption increased here too, and gradually it ended more and more often in vomiting.
2 years ago I discovered HHC. I bought a large amount of distillate and that so incredibly cheap that I could smoke continuously. As much as I wanted, all day long.
Financially, that was no longer a burden for me at that price.
Initially still with scale, later then with increasing tolerance, I could smoke endlessly. On some days over 5g pure distillate. If you convert that to flowers, that corresponds to over 20g. Daily. There were no breaks, even in between when I was waiting for the bus, I pulled unnoticed on my vape.
Gradually the nausea became part of my everyday life again. Consuming helped directly but I had to shorten the intervals more and more. Not like before, where the nausea haunted me after 2 or 3 days break ..
No

I'll shorten it here: In the end it was definitely like this, that I had to smoke something again at the latest 3 hours (!) after the last consumption. Without exception. If I didn't, I had to vomit uncontrollably. Sometimes 20 times in an hour! Nothing stayed in, even a small sip of water came out immediately afterwards.
My nights then logically became very short. My alarm clock rang at 05 o'clock but my stomach woke me up at the latest at 02 o'clock. So the first hours of the days consisted of smoking myself "healthy" for hours. That also became more and more extreme. So extreme that in the end even after 2h of continuous topping up I still felt no relief.
So I decided to stop consuming completely almost 7 months ago and there I expected first with the worst 2 weeks in my life in which I lost almost 10kg. I couldn't eat anything for 8 days, nothing to drink - so always tried to drink more than could come out. Still of course completely dehydrated and weakened. 100 times vomited a day is no exaggeration here. With an empty stomach that's no fun. Hot showers, hot water bottles on my stomach ... All this subsided after a little more than a week piece by piece and then followed another short week where it gradually got better and I could eat more and more. Another 2 weeks until I felt halfway normal again.


This ordeal definitely cured my addiction to cannabis.
So in the end I'm almost glad about this experience!
I haven't even been close to consuming since then. Sure, there were bored weekends where the thought popped into my head every now and then, but not so that I really seriously felt the urge to do it. I even had dreams now and then, in which I smoked something and then got scared that this ordeal could suddenly start again.

The consensus with cannabis hyperemesis syndrome is that you can never smoke weed again. You would get it again and again
I don't believe that from my own experience, regular breaks kept me from it for a while.
But you developed this syndrome because you are addicted, because you have lost control over your consumption ..
Whoever manages to moderate themselves and eliminate the regularity from the equation, can probably be spared. But whoever has lost control over it several times, will do it again with extremely high probability. Maybe it will go well for a long time, but when the time comes .. then CHS will hit you again, and even harder than before. The risk is simply not worth it to me.




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I found a picture online which describes this syndrom really good:



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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: ShroomKayak]
    #28637098 - 01/27/24 04:03 PM (7 hours, 17 minutes ago)

I take edibles, I smoke and vape. But usually it's like maybe 70mg a day edible 2 bowls a few puffs off the vape pen and I'm good. I think what you're referring to is thcsyndrome. It's essentially a horrible withdrawal, throwing up chills etc.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal]
    #28637198 - 01/27/24 05:26 PM (5 hours, 55 minutes ago)

I have no idea how some people can smoke 3 grams a day.  Shit, I don't understand how some people somke 1 gram per day.

I take 3 small hits with 20 minute intervals between them and I am exactly where I like to be.  One more small hit and I would definitevely be uncomfortable for the first 15 minute of the buzz.

3 grams would send me straight to the hospital and I'd be the first asshole to die from weed and ruin it for everyone else.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal]
    #28637257 - 01/27/24 06:15 PM (5 hours, 6 minutes ago)

I have seen somebody smoke a quarter in under 10 minutes. He got a little nausea and he became a little pale. That’s it.
I honestly don’t think you should ever go to the hospital for anything involving marijuana. It’s just a waste of money and time.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28637277 - 01/27/24 06:30 PM (4 hours, 50 minutes ago)

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I honestly don’t think you should ever go to the hospital for anything involving marijuana. It’s just a waste of money and time.




I would agree if it is related to an akute consume.
But Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrom has already killed people: starved to death or kidney failure because of extreme dehydration

A lot of people who have CHS went to the ER more then once


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: ShroomKayak]
    #28637307 - 01/27/24 06:47 PM (4 hours, 33 minutes ago)

Pot related injury. I went to hospital for a hot knife burn when I was a teenager. Burnt myself very badly. They gave me a script for codeine. First time having opiates.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Mystikal]
    #28637308 - 01/27/24 06:49 PM (4 hours, 31 minutes ago)

It’s like they hate you. They could’ve just given you an ice pack and some Tylenol.
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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Asante]
    #28637314 - 01/27/24 06:56 PM (4 hours, 25 minutes ago)

These days an eighth lasts me a week or more, I generally take a small hit in the morning though not always, and a few small hits at night

There were also several instances last year where I went on assignments and didn't smoke at all for 6-14 days at a time and I never noticed any withdrawal symptoms, still slept good and didn't lose my appetite

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says the guy who used 1-2gr mdma in a sitting




Did you lose the ability to piss for 12 hours like me when I megadosed. I drank a 6 pack and couldn't piss.





a gram of mdma can kill you.

i didnt megadose, i took 8 125mg doses after another.

that only works well with a huge body.

My 125mg is about your 80mg.

Never take more than 120 + 80 in a sitting, what i did was nuts and iut was pre-2010 when my life was still awful.




150mg is the sweet spot for me nowadays, I used to like to redose but I find it doesn't really do much for my roll anymore and makes the comedown somewhat worse

Although I still don't really get that bad of a comedown from MDMA/MDA, it's not nearly as bad as that of coke or meth IMO. I took it several times over the last 6-12 months and the magic is definitely still there


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal]
    #28637318 - 01/27/24 06:59 PM (4 hours, 21 minutes ago)

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I take 3 small hits with 20 minute intervals between them and I am exactly where I like to be.





you want to be some place reasonable, that's the difference.


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Re: Do you smoke 4gs + of weed per day? [Re: Patlal]
    #28637438 - 01/27/24 09:48 PM (1 hour, 32 minutes ago)

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I have no idea how some people can smoke 3 grams a day.  Shit, I don't understand how some people somke 1 gram per day.

I take 3 small hits with 20 minute intervals between them and I am exactly where I like to be.  One more small hit and I would definitevely be uncomfortable for the first 15 minute of the buzz.

3 grams would send me straight to the hospital and I'd be the first asshole to die from weed and ruin it for everyone else.



I didn't just start smoking a gram of shatter a day..  I smoked weed everyday until the point I wasn't really getting high like I used to, so I started supplementing it with hits of shatter here and there. Eventually just a hit here and there wasn't enough and regular bud just wasn't getting me high anymore. I still smoked/vaped it constantly just because I enjoyed it but if I needed to get high it had to be shatter. Eventually got to the point I was basically taking a dab every 15-20 minutes when I was home.

Then I ended up puking my guts out for 24 hours straight like every 10-15 minutes. I had to go to the ER cuz I just couldn't do it anymore. And I was getting really dehydrated because I couldn't keep anything at all down. I knew I needed an IV and prescription nausea meds to get better.

I puked so hard and so much I pretty much lost my voice. It was a little louder than a whisper but even screaming I couldn't be any louder.


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