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    #28636427 - 01/27/24 05:43 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

hi all fellow shroomers friends happy tripping :mushroom2:

i am a big fan of fixing your garden
it has to be all in order
but there are alternatives

if your life is without a job or shitty you can do something to improve it

i found out that the garden (routine) can be approximated to being all in order
that it can come closer to it

for a long time I have been working on the earth and the world
praying
and meditating
(remember milarepa said meditation is a service to the people)
to an extent it is like praying

and that perspective is valid
doing as good as one can for the earth and the world
with what one has
maybe trying to do something that is invaluable
or close to it

but there is another perspective
i found out that way because I felt if i did a drawing it would be such close to being a day's work when i don't have them
and there would be less weeds in my garden
for example half a day
it is a really nice perspective
a trick is to go where you feel you approximate it the best
but that is not necessarily the tactic
always
other approaches can be to do what you do the most with in the future
remember dalai lama said take both the short term and the long term into consideration
but the days work and less weeds approach is superior
but only at a stage, earlier than that it is worse
have good days work and as little weeds as possible
best regards ferdinando


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28636440 - 01/27/24 06:04 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

i will also say that you have to go where it feels like you have a days work as soon as possible
also you can decrease weeds by drawing and do more with it


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #28636471 - 01/27/24 06:45 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Cool thread, you make some interesting & clear points about gardening and relating it to life in general.
:awesomenod:
I love tending to the garden more than most anything else in the world.
All the work and preperation is rewarding in and of its self; seed starting, ground prep, planning your next crops etc through Winter.
But on an early Summer morning when it's not too hot yet- standing among the sunflowers hearing the breeze rustling their giant, hairy leaves, watering everything and just feeling all the effort I've put into my surroundings coming pouring back into me through the myriad of shapes, smells, colours and textures....
:homerdrool:
Even sitting out for an actual sitting meditation session, watching the birds bathing their feathers in the dusty earth- and then pulling up my tender seedlings lol
:shakecat:
It's so blissful and can be awesomely meditative.

At the same time, there is something to be said about not falling over yourself to get rid of ALL the weeds in a hurry (literally and metaphorically).
I leave a decent bit of the garden chockfull of 'weeds'. They're native to my area- afterall- so serve purpose as far as supporting the birds, insects, companion plants, mycorhizzoal connections with trees, microbiome of soil etc that have evolved relationships with these certain plants.
This goes beyond my desire to see order reflected in my garden.

So I suppose there can be a parallel 'drawn'(:wink:) between overweeding and stewarding your garden in the direction you want and doing the same mentally/internally. That is, somethings serve purpose beyond their obvious functions, it's not always down to us to be judge, jury & weeder.

Any plant you're particularly stoked for this year?
Cheers anyway man, here's to gardens (once again, the literal and otherwise)- may we keep learning from/for them and never take having one for granted!


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28636489 - 01/27/24 07:02 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

:thumbup:

As a lifelong plant enthusiast, I agree.

Cultivating plants boosts my mental health.  From irrigation, to taking cuttings, pruning, sowing seeds, to mixing up a batch of fertilizer

good stuff indeed - cultivating plants cultivates joy

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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28636548 - 01/27/24 07:54 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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:thumbup:

As a lifelong plant enthusiast, I agree.

Cultivating plants boosts my mental health.  From irrigation, to taking cuttings, pruning, sowing seeds, to mixing up a batch of fertilizer

good stuff indeed - cultivating plants cultivates joy



:rockon:
Absolutely.
Some of the very best days end with a tanned back of the neck and hands stained green & brown!
I put to you the same question as put to OP: any particular garden thing you're most looking forward to this year?


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Lithop]
    #28636551 - 01/27/24 07:59 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

drawing is good for many things
getting a dog showering getting a job etc


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28636616 - 01/27/24 08:45 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Got a preferred drawing style, and do you ever draw stuff from out in the garden?
Nature art/drawings are 100% some my favourites, but I'm nowhere near able to draw a convincing plant :lol: Yet...
And, I'm more of a cat guy :shakecat:


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #28636625 - 01/27/24 08:49 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I will be growing cayenne peppers this year. In the past I have grown as many as 150 pepper plants, sometimes scotch bonnets. That year I developed an allergy to capsaicin while processing them and could not eat very hot food for several years. Process hot peppers in a well ventilated area, preferably outside.

Anyway, weeds. My last couple grows I used bottomless buckets. They can be placed directly on the ground and the root system will have access to the dirt underneath. If using soil it can be top dressed with gravel or other material, or a couple inches of soiless mix can be used on top.

No need to grow 100s of plants. 3-4 healthy plants can provide enough peppers for year round hot sauce for friends and family.

And my semi-famous hot sauce recipe. Amounts provided for ratio info.

1 lb whole cayenne peppers turned into pepper mash (instruction for mash are easy to find)
1 lb whole cayenne peppers smoked with your wood of choice. The peppers do not need to be smoked dry. 1-2 hours at low heat is plenty. Store smoked peppers in fridge until mash is ready. The smoke will keep them from molding.

Blend the 2 lbs of peppers together using enough vinegar to liquify the slurry (distilled or AC depending on taste preference). Add additional vinegar to achieve desired consistency. At this point the sauce can be bottled and pasteurized if desired (not necessary).


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Rahz]
    #28637825 - 01/28/24 09:20 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Nice :thumbup:

I'm not entirely sure why but I enjoy growing peppers as well. I think it's in part the variety, manageability and a little bit can go a long ways.

Having a short growing season dictates a lot. But I spend the most effort managing fruit trees. They require almost year round maintenance.

Fruits that return each year are my go-to in the garden. Blueberry bushes, raspberry patches, strawberry tangles. Cut them back in the fall, cover them with mulch in the winter, and water in the spring and summer. Freeze bunches. Dessert year round.

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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Kickle]
    #28637923 - 01/28/24 10:40 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I've had an interest in perennials. I grew blackberries for several years, a college cultivated variety, and they were huge. The best year I harvested several gallons and plenty to spare for neighbors from a 4x20 area. Very little work involved. I bought 5 grape vines and learned they require a level of pruning I was not prepared for, but they ended up providing good cover on a chain link fence that would otherwise offer no privacy.


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Rahz]
    #28638010 - 01/28/24 11:43 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Lol I hear you on the grape vines. They grow very rapidly. I have some on a chain link fence as well :smile:


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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Lithop]
    #28638244 - 01/28/24 02:32 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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I put to you the same question as put to OP: any particular garden thing you're most looking forward to this year?




I now live in an apartment, so I have a patio full of plants and two indoor light gardens.  In May, when temps are warmer, I'll propagate my variegated spider plants (Chlorophytum) using perlite or sphagnum moss (works much better than water or soil, for me) and take cuttings of my grape ivy which has overgrown a 6x3 foot area of my patio.  Grape ivy is a fairly woody plant and a bit tricky to root.  I put cuttings in water for 3-5 weeks and get callus bumps to form, and then dip in rooting hormone and go to soil.  It's the only way I've been successful in rooting them.

I'll also try some new growing ideas & support methods for my Monstera plants.  I realize I've been over potting them, and also want to use a chunky soil mix that holds less water.  Making soil mixes that hold less water has improved the health of many of my plants.  Very few plants thrive with soggy feet.  I amend potting soil with bark, coco chips, perlite, etc.  I rarely use potting soil straight out of the bag - it holds so much water.  Oh, and pumice is another good amendment.

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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28640120 - 01/30/24 04:21 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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I now live in an apartment, so I have a patio full of plants and two indoor light gardens.  In May, when temps are warmer, I'll propagate my variegated spider plants (Chlorophytum) using perlite or sphagnum moss (works much better than water or soil, for me) and take cuttings of my grape ivy which has overgrown a 6x3 foot area of my patio.  Grape ivy is a fairly woody plant and a bit tricky to root.  I put cuttings in water for 3-5 weeks and get callus bumps to form, and then dip in rooting hormone and go to soil.  It's the only way I've been successful in rooting them.



Rad that you've still got space to grow, a patio full of plants is a great place to start the day I bet man.
I have a chlorophytum too!
The grape ivy sounds legit & prolific- I love seeing how they can take over an area, gives such a sense of depth and life. In my town there is a real old school house whose whole front is some sort of ivy- in the Autumn when it turns red it looks unbelievable.

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I'll also try some new growing ideas & support methods for my Monstera plants.



Cool, hope you stumble onto some new way of support/growing that they enjoy.
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I realize I've been over potting them, and also want to use a chunky soil mix that holds less water.  Making soil mixes that hold less water has improved the health of many of my plants.  Very few plants thrive with soggy feet.  I amend potting soil with bark, coco chips, perlite, etc.  I rarely use potting soil straight out of the bag - it holds so much water.  Oh, and pumice is another good amendment.



:yesnod:
Yeah it's a revelation when you get them in just the right sized pot, they're so much happier! I used to think bigger pot= they'll grow bigger/healthier roots...
:facepalm3:
Instead they got sad and damp as all fuck, rooting only to what they needed and leaving a big empty wet soilmass beneath AKA fungus gnat jamboree.
So I can understand why something like sphagnum could occupy the space needed with plenty airation and gaps.

About ammendments, do you get crushed up pumice to use in place of perlite or the likes? So much scope for tweakability making your own mixes.

Oh and envious of you guys (Rahz & Kickle)s chilli abundance, I pulled probably 4 birdeyes and 2 apache last year...
They were nice and spicy, still, but I had a dream of bottling a load of hotsauce.
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Still getting to grips with them.
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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28640534 - 01/30/24 12:14 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I got an apartment with lots of light cause I love plants

Then they built a bunch of houses right next door and the light is gone, my plants are dying...


But I like to clean the apartment each day. And practice being aware, like putting things down in a neat way instead of just dropping them haphazardly, or noticing when the dust settles on surfaces and cleaning

and even gardening my movements, moving with love, with care, with playfulness

I went on a run the other day and was doing it with love for my body. It changed how I ran a little. I went up the hill more slowly than usually, cause instead of pushing myself, i was just giving the body some exercise for its sake


and cooking. like baking a cake, can i get the texture just right? what if i change this or that, how does it come out?

i like to do little experiments in all sorts of ways, especially with people. what if i do it a little different this way or that? what if i don't even say anything when i normally felt i needed to, can the message still get across somehow?

i like gardening relationships. suddenly lots of new seeds are sprouting, i don't know if i cant take care of them all

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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: Lithop]
    #28642420 - 01/31/24 09:00 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Although grapy ivy is usually grown in a hanging basket, in recent years I've tied strings to the pot and attached the ends of the strings to the roof of my apartment patio. And I train the plants to grow up.  They climb like crazy, and onto my upstairs neighbors deck.  It looks very cool.

Yes, overpotting often results in the soil staying wet for too long.  You can really fuck up a plant by over potting.  "fungus gnat jamboree" - that's hilarious!  I can totally relate. 

A couple of advantage for amending soil mixes with pumice instead of perlite - no nasty dust working with pumice, it's cheaper, and also it adds some weight to the pot.  I often use light airy soil mixes, and with small pots, when they get on the dry side, they can tip over in the wind.  I still use perlite.

BTW, some claim a layer of perlite on top of the soil keeps fungus gnats away, because the flying gnats lay their eggs in the perlite, and the larvae will not grow in perlite - the larvae need organic matter.

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Re: weeds and closeness to a days work [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28642895 - 02/01/24 12:45 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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Although grapy ivy is usually grown in a hanging basket, in recent years I've tied strings to the pot and attached the ends of the strings to the roof of my apartment patio. And I train the plants to grow up. They climb like crazy, and onto my upstairs neighbors deck.  It looks very cool.



Sounds sick.
:rockon:

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A couple of advantage for amending soil mixes with pumice instead of perlite - no nasty dust working with pumice, it's cheaper, and also it adds some weight to the pot.  I often use light airy soil mixes, and with small pots, when they get on the dry side, they can tip over in the wind.  I still use perlite.



:takingnotes:

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BTW, some claim a layer of perlite on top of the soil keeps fungus gnats away, because the flying gnats lay their eggs in the perlite, and the larvae will not grow in perlite - the larvae need organic matter.



:awesomenod:
:salute:
Yep thanks, got top layer (of stones not perlite) on all houseplants, bottom water only now etc etc. 'The event' will hopefully never reoccur...

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