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Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content 1
#28635753 - 01/26/24 03:37 PM (1 day, 14 hours ago) |
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About two weeks ago, I stumbled upon some Gyms while on a hike in Sonoma County, growing from a very decayed Live Oak. They looked like Gymnopilus luteofolius, but I've heard there are possibly multiple Gymnopilus species in this area that look almost identical, but aren't active. I ordered a Miraculix Psilo-Q test after hearing Allen recommend them on an interview with the guy from Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't on Youtube. Here are the results of the test and in situ shots of the Gyms!






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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Kdeezy]
#28635781 - 01/26/24 03:53 PM (1 day, 14 hours ago) |
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Rad thx for posting your test results nice job bro
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: rhizoRider]
#28636017 - 01/26/24 06:35 PM (1 day, 11 hours ago) |
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That's really cool! Awesome!
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Psilosadhu]
#28636075 - 01/26/24 07:21 PM (1 day, 11 hours ago) |
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Thanks for the contribution!
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: snowveil]
#28636082 - 01/26/24 07:26 PM (1 day, 11 hours ago) |
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Isn’t this a bit stronger than what is usually expected for those?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: justjarvis]
#28636142 - 01/26/24 08:11 PM (1 day, 10 hours ago) |
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Very cool! I do think this is G. luteofolous, though G. dilepis also occurs in the area.
That is definitely a darker Miraculix test than what I would have expected - 1.5% is stronger than most cubes.
Have you tried eating any?
I ate 9 grams dry and saw colors but it wasn't too strong, I would eat 15 grams dry next time.
Did you weigh the dry material accurately when you did the test, and take it out of the hot water at 10 minutes? Was the test refrigerated before use?
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Psilosadhu


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15g of dried mushrooms... That's a lot of dry material. I thought gyms were quite bitter and awful tasting? Never tried gyms myself. I thought tea was the way to go with gyms?
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Psilosadhu]
#28636379 - 01/27/24 01:20 AM (1 day, 5 hours ago) |
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Yes Gymnopilus are quite bitter, tea is the way to go.
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#28636600 - 01/27/24 08:36 AM (21 hours, 49 minutes ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Yes Gymnopilus are quite bitter, tea is the way to go.
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Moria841]
#28636606 - 01/27/24 08:39 AM (21 hours, 46 minutes ago) |
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The gym burps
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Kdeezy]
#28636649 - 01/27/24 09:12 AM (21 hours, 14 minutes ago) |
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To what extent is this visual test likely to be skewed by the oxidization of omnipresent polyphenols? The oxidation products thereof are generally dark-colored and in the brown part of the spectrum.
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#28637365 - 01/27/24 07:41 PM (10 hours, 44 minutes ago) |
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Thanks all! Happy the results generated some conversation!
The test results weren't expected...going by shroomery's dosing guide, I had expected them to be two times less potent than these.
Thanks Alan! Are there any obvious phenotypic distinctions between G. luteofolius and G. dilepis? I did not try eating any, but would gladly send you the rest of the sample if you wanted to. I was also going to send them to the Ohio lab for sequencing. I believe I administered the test correctly...weighed with gram scale accurate to .02, removed from hot water after the alloted time and had refrigerated tests prior to running them. I have four more tests, so I could run it again!
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Re: Gymnopilus Luteofolius Psilocybin Content [Re: Kdeezy]
#28637527 - 01/28/24 12:18 AM (6 hours, 7 minutes ago) |
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koraks said: To what extent is this visual test likely to be skewed by the oxidization of omnipresent polyphenols?
I don't know.
Would these show up in a water extract?
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Kdeezy said: Are there any obvious phenotypic distinctions between G. luteofolius and G. dilepis?
I am not sure, there aren't enough sequenced G. dilepis collections that have good photos to draw conclusions. G. dilepis might be smaller and grow in denser clusters.
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I did not try eating any, but would gladly send you the rest of the sample if you wanted to. I was also going to send them to the Ohio lab for sequencing.
Send them to the Ohio lab and if the results are anything other than G. luteofolius then send them to me.
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I believe I administered the test correctly...weighed with gram scale accurate to .02, removed from hot water after the alloted time and had refrigerated tests prior to running them. I have four more tests, so I could run it again!
Sounds good! Maybe these things are more potent than I realized. A couple people have had strong experiences from smaller amounts so perhaps the potency is extremely variable.
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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koraks said: To what extent is this visual test likely to be skewed by the oxidization of omnipresent polyphenols?
I don't know.
Would these show up in a water extract?
Many of these staining chemicals (phenols and polyphenols) are water-soluble, and their staining can be quite intense. So yes. What phenols and polyphenols are present specifically in this species, I don't know, neither whether this is also influenced by substrate/host species.
It seems to be that there are a lot of uncertainties here and I wonder to what extent these are sufficiently overcome to make a test like this reliable at all. I severely doubt it.
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