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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Northerner] 4
#28636722 - 01/27/24 10:19 AM (13 hours, 18 minutes ago) |
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Northerner said: Even fentanyl is super deadly and cheap af. It's not like people really have to look far to find a drug that kills people painlessly and quickly.
I've always wondered if there was some sort of corruption regarding approved death penalty drugs and their exorbitant pricing. Something fishy going on.
Apparently pharmaceutical companies will not sell their drugs for this purpose so it makes procuring the drugs for execution very difficult.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/lethal-injection/compounding-pharmacies
Personally, I disagree with the state being able to kill people on an ideological level. And in a practical sense, there's simply too large of a margin of error in our court systems and too many people falsely imprisoned for me to ever support it.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008] 3
#28636277 - 01/26/24 10:11 PM (1 day, 1 hour ago) |
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I've always just assumed the decision makers in these sorts of matters are just purposefully choosing painful ways to die.
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why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? 2
#28635636 - 01/26/24 01:36 PM (1 day, 10 hours ago) |
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why not use nitrous oxide to kill a death row? there is a big hissy fit over the execution of a man in alabama usa, because some say its' inhumane. because they can't get the lethal injection drugs. they are talking about doing the firing squad, but why not just use nitrous oxide. the person would pass out pretty quick and then basically be in anesthesia when they died from lack of oxegen. or like, put them out and then bleed them to death, i mean theres got to be better ways than what they did? nitrous oxide is cheap and readily available isn't it? why is there such an uproar about this? the man brutally murdered someoen for $1000 so sorry, but bfuck him.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008] 2
#28636312 - 01/26/24 11:04 PM (1 day, 33 minutes ago) |
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In short because I believe there's people that are death sentence advocates probably want them to suffer a bit to "scare people" and get "justice". Idk how I feel about it honestly. My instinct is for the worst of the worst I want them to suffer in prison for life but I'm not sure that does as much "good" as we think.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: viraldrome] 2
#28636405 - 01/27/24 03:29 AM (20 hours, 7 minutes ago) |
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That they can't get the drug is horsecrap. A chemist in favor of the death penalty can synth them for them on the kilo level.
they should just stop.
The us government is getting increasingly fascist (like my govt) so NOW is the time to take their toy away.
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killing people for being killers is hypocritical.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Yokal] 1
#28635840 - 01/26/24 04:28 PM (1 day, 7 hours ago) |
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Even fentanyl is super deadly and cheap af. It's not like people really have to look far to find a drug that kills people painlessly and quickly.
I've always wondered if there was some sort of corruption regarding approved death penalty drugs and their exorbitant pricing. Something fishy going on.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: koods] 1
#28636300 - 01/26/24 10:42 PM (1 day, 54 minutes ago) |
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The reason they haven’t done that. Even though it would be a much more humane way of doing this type of execution. I agree replacing the entire rooms atmosphere with the gas would be a much more efficient way of doing this than using using a mask.
They don’t want the association of gassing someone in a chamber…
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#28636737 - 01/27/24 10:33 AM (13 hours, 3 minutes ago) |
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In the time it takes for you to get your vigilante justice. Who knows how many other people they could’ve hurt.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#28637495 - 01/27/24 11:29 PM (7 minutes, 46 seconds ago) |
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That shit works quick, too. I only was put under once with it to get wisdom teeth removed. They told me to count down from 10 and I don't even remember if I made it down to 0  I was on a low dose, I think, because I was conscious the whole time and could hear them drilling my teeth, but felt nothing pretty much.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: TerraMoon]
#28635783 - 01/26/24 03:54 PM (1 day, 7 hours ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Psychedelic Experience.
Reason: Fits better here
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Northerner]
#28635815 - 01/26/24 04:16 PM (1 day, 7 hours ago) |
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Nitrous oxide blast on the way out sounds decent of them although I don't believe in death sentences. I'd like to see actual life sentence for murder though.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Mystikal]
#28635829 - 01/26/24 04:23 PM (1 day, 7 hours ago) |
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too much money with all the appeals jus throw them in prison, less chance of killing an innocent too
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: TerraMoon]
#28636256 - 01/26/24 09:52 PM (1 day, 1 hour ago) |
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They can euthanize an animal, though.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008]
#28636279 - 01/26/24 10:12 PM (1 day, 1 hour ago) |
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Nitrogen should work fine. It doesn’t irritate the mucus membranes. Pretty sure 100% nitrous oxide would be very irritating in the lungs.
The problem with the method Alabama used was likely that the mask the dude was wearing allowed for oxygen to get in as well as rebreathing oxygen exhaled. You really need to have no oxygen in the air you are breathing for it to work efficiently. A much better method would be to put the person in a small room and quickly replace the atmosphere with nitrogen or have a diving bell type apparatus
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: PatrickKn]
#28636282 - 01/26/24 10:14 PM (1 day, 1 hour ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I've always just assumed the decision makers in these sorts of matters are just purposefully choosing painful ways to die.
These people in Alabama seem particularly incompetent. I don’t think actual doctors are involved in these procedures since they risk losing certification
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: koods]
#28636309 - 01/26/24 10:55 PM (1 day, 42 minutes ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Mice_and_Men
I'm not even going to play the pacifist if the condemned is a retard, criminally.
Except, the excuse is a lack of drugs which, clearly, we have.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28636318 - 01/26/24 11:10 PM (1 day, 27 minutes ago) |
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People need to be better than they were when they were sent to prison. I think people need to be put into education programs and given therapy. We need to stop trying to make the most intense horrible environment possible and expecting that to fix anything.
The idea that that has seeped into the execution process is diabolical. It means that we are performing these executions, knowing they aren’t going to work properly because we want them to suffer. We’re supposed to be putting these people down humanely as possible.
I don’t feel like we need to execute people in most cases. But I certainly don’t think they need to be executed as violently and horribly as possible. If we’re really gonna discuss this. How has nobody brought up the bear claw? They have this horrible mechanical device that is guaranteed 100% going to execute somebody and it’s in a fraction of a second. It’s over. That’s what we should be doing. There should be zero question of if it’s going to work.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28636323 - 01/26/24 11:12 PM (1 day, 24 minutes ago) |
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The house across the street has been red lined for mental cases, for about 5 owners in a row. The mailbox says 'Killafornia'. An SUV shows affiliation with a gang that tags the nearby sidewalk. An extremely large kid that takes the short bus hung out the window, saying rapey comments to the neighboring girls and female joggers, until all the glass was broken out, in freezing weather. If he is found inside of my house in the middle of the night, bring back the coliseum.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008]
#28636362 - 01/27/24 12:41 AM (22 hours, 56 minutes ago) |
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So if you were in charge of dishing out these punishments, what would you do Durian?
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Mystikal]
#28636401 - 01/27/24 03:04 AM (20 hours, 33 minutes ago) |
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Why not throw him in a pool of piranhas? That's what lil Kim Jong does
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Asante]
#28636518 - 01/27/24 07:25 AM (16 hours, 12 minutes ago) |
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Asante said: killing people for being killers is hypocritical.
My thoughts exactly! It doesn't set a good precedent that the government just kills people.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
#28636723 - 01/27/24 10:19 AM (13 hours, 17 minutes ago) |
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If someone killed/raped someone close enough to me I would do my best to make sure they don't get locked up at all so they go back to the streets where anything could happen....
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
#28636949 - 01/27/24 01:35 PM (10 hours, 2 minutes ago) |
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I kind of think most decent people have a problem when it comes to reporting people that murder and not becoming their next victim. I know, thats fucked up, but police arent very intelligent or ethical people most of the time, and likely to make things so much worse. Vigilantes, when qualified can do some good. I wonder if full anarchy would be more peaceful.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
#28636993 - 01/27/24 02:33 PM (9 hours, 4 minutes ago) |
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GenesisCorrupted said: In the time it takes for you to get your vigilante justice. Who knows how many other people they could’ve hurt.
Not if you are watching them in real time. Depending on your state it is not illegal to follow somebody as long as you aren't breaking any laws....and any real vigilante wouldn't been seen anyway
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
#28637105 - 01/27/24 04:10 PM (7 hours, 27 minutes ago) |
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GenesisCorrupted said: So if you were in charge of dishing out these punishments, what would you do Durian?
I generally believe in terms of common law and would hold myself to the same standards of behavior which I expect from other people.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008]
#28637154 - 01/27/24 04:54 PM (6 hours, 43 minutes ago) |
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I'm generally against the death penalty, but for the worst of offenders where no hope of rehabilitation is possible and they are a threat both inside or outside of prison there reaches a point where I start to agree with it.
If someone murdered my family though I don't know if I could be so lenient. I would probably kill them. Invisible line would have been crossed.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Northerner]
#28637182 - 01/27/24 05:09 PM (6 hours, 28 minutes ago) |
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That's what I'm saying. Everyone is always against it until it gets personal. That's why I'm openly for it.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: spirit_shadow]
#28637193 - 01/27/24 05:19 PM (6 hours, 17 minutes ago) |
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Old school style would be to permit vigilantism then, leave the fate of the wrong doer in the wronged. It would never work, but it's kinda cool.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: Northerner]
#28637199 - 01/27/24 05:26 PM (6 hours, 10 minutes ago) |
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All of you people who do not go into other's houses at night, or do not harm others, to the death, unprovoked, are measurably better than those who do. So, the difference between killing and murder is not an unsubstantiated opinion.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: durian_2008]
#28637205 - 01/27/24 05:36 PM (6 hours, 1 minute ago) |
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As hard as it is in some cases I'm against the death penalty for civilians.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#28637209 - 01/27/24 05:37 PM (6 hours, 29 seconds ago) |
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Unless they're traitors/spies but then your not a civilian so
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#28637234 - 01/27/24 05:56 PM (5 hours, 40 minutes ago) |
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Mehh, if the evidence is overwhelming and they are a big danger doodoo head then let's just put em down and move on. Life's too short to worry about those types of peeps hurting anyone else. If they did it once they'll do it again.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? (moved) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#28637300 - 01/27/24 06:43 PM (4 hours, 53 minutes ago) |
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From Wikipedia: At least 190 people who were sentenced to death in the United States have been exonerated and released since 1973, with official misconduct and perjury/false accusation the leading causes of their wrongful convictions.
Something to consider, wonder how many innocent people have really been killed.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? [Re: TerraMoon]
#28637492 - 01/27/24 11:28 PM (9 minutes, 27 seconds ago) |
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Because using nitrous is too humane for Alabama.
Plus it gives Big Dentist a bad name, since some dental offices still use Nitrous as general anesthesia.
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Re: why not use nitrous oxide to kill the man in alabama? insead of nitrogen? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#28637502 - 01/27/24 11:35 PM (2 minutes ago) |
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Its highly effective! And the pure O2 they mix in probably helps too.
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