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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28632350 - 01/23/24 05:13 PM (4 days, 6 hours ago)

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Qassam released footage of the operation that lead to the demise of 22 IDF soldiers.

Statement: “At exactly 16:00 yesterday evening, the Al-Qassam were able to carry out a combined operation east of the Maghazi camp, where they targeted a house in which an IDF engineering force was holed up with an anti-personnel shell that led to the explosion of the ammunition and engineering equipment it was in possession of, completely blowing up the house.

And simultaneously the Mujahideen destroyed the "Merkvah" tank that was securing the force with the "Al-Yassin 105" shell.

They also detonated a minefield with another IDF force that was present in the same place, which led to all of them being killed or wounded, and the Qassam fighters withdrew to their bases safely.”[quote/]

https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1749898375774822413?s=46


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 3
    #28632865 - 01/24/24 05:47 AM (3 days, 17 hours ago)



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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28632868 - 01/24/24 05:49 AM (3 days, 17 hours ago)

That's a gaffe that will stay with that woman for the rest of her life...ouch.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
    #28632909 - 01/24/24 06:47 AM (3 days, 16 hours ago)

at least she figured it out:lol:


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28633585 - 01/24/24 05:22 PM (3 days, 5 hours ago)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-25/nine-killed-at-un-shelter-khan-younis/103372910

More war crimes. Israel even got a “rebuke” from their arms dealer. 

I hope South Africa raises this one too.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28633651 - 01/24/24 06:22 PM (3 days, 4 hours ago)

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Even if you want to say that famines and wars are a direct result of communist rule (it isn’t), then you also have to say that these same atrocities occurring under capitalist rule are attributable to capitalism. As such, capitalism kills far more people than communism ever did. So now what? Or have you not really thought about this at all?




Famine in communist China, and Russia was directly the result of their respective communist governments following the lead of a "Communist agricultural scientist" who taught pseudoscience (Equivalent to saying BRAWNDO GOTS WHAT PLANTS CRAVE).

They liked him, because the things he said were in direct contradiction to the things capitalist agricultural scientists believed. I can't remember the dude's name, but I'm sure you've read about this..


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28633658 - 01/24/24 06:29 PM (3 days, 4 hours ago)

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https://x.com/samah_fadil/status/1750113806330503444?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw




I love how she covers her mouth "Oh shit!!!"

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28633848 - 01/24/24 09:04 PM (3 days, 2 hours ago)

Der oracle.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: falcon]
    #28634080 - 01/25/24 07:05 AM (2 days, 16 hours ago)

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Der oracle.




Lysenko.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28634760 - 01/25/24 05:43 PM (2 days, 5 hours ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Even if you want to say that famines and wars are a direct result of communist rule (it isn’t), then you also have to say that these same atrocities occurring under capitalist rule are attributable to capitalism. As such, capitalism kills far more people than communism ever did. So now what? Or have you not really thought about this at all?




Famine in communist China, and Russia was directly the result of their respective communist governments following the lead of a "Communist agricultural scientist" who taught pseudoscience (Equivalent to saying BRAWNDO GOTS WHAT PLANTS CRAVE).

They liked him, because the things he said were in direct contradiction to the things capitalist agricultural scientists believed. I can't remember the dude's name, but I'm sure you've read about this..




That has nothing to do with communist thought, and everything to do with authoritarian action.

They followed his ideas because he was a skilled political operative and found himself in the favor of the hierarchy, then used his position within that hierarchy to suppress other ideas.

A capitalist example of the same process in action would be the demonization of fats as bad for you, conveniently deflecting the blame from sugar companies. Who funded the research.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28635284 - 01/26/24 06:51 AM (1 day, 16 hours ago)

The UN’s highest court, the International Court of Justice, has ruled that South Africa’s determination of Israeli committing genocide against Palestine is plausible.

A nice step, but it turns out the rules-based international order doesn’t really have to follow rules. This will impact certain things, England will have to jump through considerable hoops if they want to keep arming the regime, for example, but ultimately this won’t amount to much.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #28635336 - 01/26/24 07:48 AM (1 day, 15 hours ago)

From everything I have read, there is  zero enforcement with this court. I find it a complete veneer.

You better stop, or the next step is another document in legalese.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot] * 2
    #28635350 - 01/26/24 07:59 AM (1 day, 15 hours ago)

There is no court that exists that can actually force a country to stop doing something.

Especially not Israel.

Still, it's good that it's all out in the open now that Israel is committing genocide in full view of the world with the full support of the US Government.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28635355 - 01/26/24 08:04 AM (1 day, 15 hours ago)

but that’s been in the open according to many pro palestinian groups so what’s going to change now from that perspective?

Nothing.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #28635360 - 01/26/24 08:12 AM (1 day, 15 hours ago)

Like most developments towards progress, this will just make it harder for liberals to look away.  But yeah, I mean, it’s not like we stopped Vietnam or Iraq or Korea because we analyzed the facts and corrected course accordingly.

The media will just spin this into “well we should have Egypt take them then.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28635530 - 01/26/24 11:27 AM (1 day, 11 hours ago)

It's absolutely unreal to me seeing how many oblivious, useful idiots there are in Western society. Uninformed slacktivists parading around Palestinian flags, convinced they're correct about something they know nothing about. Imbeciles who get their information from 45s TikTok clips demanding a ceasefire after Hamas' unproved attack while both sides were at a ceasefire. It's one of the most convoluted ongoing conflicts in modern history and teenagers who heard about it last week are suddenly experts. Well, as long as it's a completely safe way to signal virtue with little to no effort.

Perhaps I'm just getting older, but with every big issue that hits public discourse, I feel less and less confident in the average person's intelligence. Schools should spend much more time teaching students to fact-check sources, avoid confirmation bias, recognize the harms of result-oriented thinking, play Devil's advocate on every stance to ensure you're arriving at well-balanced conclusions, etc. None of this is present in any of the people yelling, "FREE PALESTINE!"

Beyond being generally terrible at assessing the veracity of information, nobody seems willing to spend time researching before forming hardline stances. This is especially problematic on such polarizing issues, but even more so when broadcasting those opinions outward is so effortless. It's never been easier for the narrative to be controlled so easily by bad actors; it's frightening. People have their heels dug in so deep without any of the information required to hit that people. If these same people are also incapable of walking back their stances after being shown evidence to the contrary, you have a recipe for disaster.

You saw this with the Rittenhouse case, where even after irrefutable proof that none of what they believed were true, folks refused to acknowledge their mistake. The Israel/Palestine conflict is just the most recent example of this.

The breakdown of language is also a major contributing factor; specific terms are used interchangeably with scenarios they do not apply to. People who can't define a genocide are insisting one is occurring right now. The IDF uses targeted missile strikes on buildings that Hamas uses to conduct operations, making them valid military targets. Instead of condemning Hamas for their use of human shields, it's easier to incorrectly use words like "carpet bombing" that imply the opposite of the aforementioned reality.

It's legitimately depressing seeing how many people, many of whom I otherwise consider intelligent, being captured so easily by obvious propaganda. People should definitely be upset that civilians or children are dying, but it shouldn't rob you of your ability to use logic and reason when determining fault. To hear these immature slacktivists tell it, Israel can't engage ANY structure/area with a civilian use. Damn, Hamas with the loophole. "IDF HATES THIS ONE TRICK!" as a pop-up in the corner. But then again, if you don't believe Israel should be there in the first place, who gives a fuck? Everything they do is wrong and they need to leave!

It's absolutely UNREAL seeing naĂŻve cretins incapable of understanding that not every culture mixes well together. People in the streets are cheering for a literal terrorist organization, downplaying their use of barbaric torture and gangrape on innocent civilians. This isn't a righteous tactic of resistance, but the product of a regressive, barbaric belief system that I want as far away as possible from me. Yet recognizing how demonstrably awful this thought system meshes with western society is "IsLaMaPhObIc!" Yes, good job, we should eliminate ANY discussion on the behavior of others. It's insanity all around.

Destroy Hamas.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28635542 - 01/26/24 11:41 AM (1 day, 11 hours ago)

They shot up a rave.

Solely on that I can’t forgive.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #28635549 - 01/26/24 11:53 AM (1 day, 11 hours ago)

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Still, it's good that it's all out in the open now that Israel is committing genocide in full view of the world with the full support of the US Government.




  • What's the difference between committing  genocide and simply responding to a military attack by a neighboring country?
  • If a small, consolidated population of people are hellbent on destroying you, at what level are you allowed to respond militarily?
  • If this group utilizes civilian infrastructure to conduct military operations, do you consider it entirely off-limits for the responding nation to target?
  • Do you feel Israel is obligated to allow events like 10/7 to keep happening?

Hamas hasn't been secret about their plans for genocide. They control Gaza. Everything they're doing is to carry out their jihad, not care for their own people. Post-10/7, they've vowed to keep planning more of these attacks, calling on the rest of the Muslim nations to aid them. At what point is the blood of dead Palestinian children on their hands and not Israel's? Why aren't we trying to eliminate Hamas from power?

mushboy,

Not only that, but intelligence suggests they didn't actually know the festival was happening until seeing it (probably the paragliders). After realizing there were a huge collection of young, unarmed civilians, they specifically navigated toward it.

And "shot up" is putting it lightly; many girls were gang raped, some had their breasts cut off while alive, many had their genitals mutilated, etc. The terrorists had specific documents with Arabic to Hebrew translations for phrases like, "Take off your pants." Sexually repressed, barbaric lunatics with zero respect for women or infidels. What could go wrong?

How anybody supports this shit is beyond me. Many of the #metoo people are conveniently ignoring this shit. I live in Seattle and these fucking clowns are doing shit like blocking the freeway and streets, today again I think. The same group of people who'd support the death penalty for misgendering their dog or something, but justifies the evil inflicted during this "resistance."

I don't believe non-combatants should be targeted, but people shouldn't ignore how ecstatic the civilians were, either. You'd see them parading in the street while driving around that poor German girl's broken body, little children hitting her and spitting on her. And they justify it. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing, man.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28635597 - 01/26/24 12:55 PM (1 day, 10 hours ago)

I wonder how many Israeli settlers and IDF soldiers shot Palestinians during their peaceful ceasefire.


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    #28635619 - 01/26/24 01:14 PM (1 day, 10 hours ago)

freudian slip of the century


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