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Offlinealkasike96
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How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves?
    #28634360 - 01/25/24 11:03 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Before the invention of handguns in the previous Millenium were common to the masses, the only way you could defend yourself from a bigger muscular guy would be to get jacked yourself and hulk muscles so guys bigger than you don't mess with you. With guns there's really no need for a guy to be big and strong to defend himself from a bigger guy or a woman to even date another violent big guy to defend herself from another violent muscular guy.

In states where guns are extremely hard to get and in countries like in Europe, nd Australia,the United Kingdom, and Asia where they're either outright illegal to extremely hard to get do men in those places feel the need to get ripped and jacked (some even take steroids) just so a bigger guy doesn't randomly mess with then and just so they can get a woman to talk to them?

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96] * 3
    #28634416 - 01/25/24 11:50 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Community.

A network of people I can rely on for self-defence and mutual aid.

This also has the benefit of greater built-in redundancy than focusing solely on individual physical strength, and I would guess was more common historically than a bunch of jacked peasants.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #28634425 - 01/25/24 12:04 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I’m Australian (or at least I was born and still live in Australia) and for almost 40 years now I have never, not once, experienced a moment where I thought me shooting a gun might remedy or rectify a situation.  Sure, I’ve experienced a moment or two of blind rage—and I’m fucking glad there wasn’t a gun anywhere near me.
    If exceedingly few people have guns, then others don’t really see the point in having one. I entirely support your second amendment rights, entirely, but to me guns are a self replicating danger. “Oh he has a gun? I need one to protect myself.” Then someone else needs one, then others, until the whole population are armed and someone does something inherently evil—like knock on the wrong door asking for directions—and they get shot in the face.

That’s just my opinion.  I don’t have a problem with guns…just the mindset of some of those who potentially own them.

And I never had to worry about being gunned down at school. I walk around, work, play, and the idea that someone might start shooting just…doesn’t exist here.  I’ve also only ever been directly confronted with random violence against my person on…two occasions.  The first was handily dealt with by the application of jujitsu, the second by applying the handbrake and sending the offending meth-head off of my windshield and into the gravel by the side of the road. 

That said we’re entirely unprotected if our government ever decided to go full dictatorship. You take the good with the bad.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28634547 - 01/25/24 01:55 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Weapons are power multipliers as you are evidencing in your post (big violent man rendered equal to a woman or small male with a gun)
So just use a legal power multiplier I would guess would be many ppl answer.
A good knife?
Hell many a woman have fended off assault with just pepper spray and quick feet...


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: ashfiken]
    #28634630 - 01/25/24 03:11 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

How about a weapon where you don't need to get within the bigger guys arms length to use it?

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28634713 - 01/25/24 04:39 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Mechanical broadheads and a crossbow .


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Psilynut2] * 3
    #28634728 - 01/25/24 04:59 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

As a former young guy, and probably still a young guy to the eyes of the general population, the amount of times that I have had to defend myself is zero.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Kryptos]
    #28635793 - 01/26/24 03:58 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

They carry knives.  Which are weapons just like guns are, except less deadly.

This is proof that gun control doesn't work.  People will always find ways to kill one another.  Banning the tool won't lessen this problem.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
    #28636086 - 01/26/24 07:32 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Of course gun control works. Look at the examples listed in this very thread.

It doesn't work in the US because we are a bunch of gun masturbating retards. Toddlers kill more people than good guys with guns, and the bad guys kill way more than both combined.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera]
    #28636089 - 01/26/24 07:34 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Carry an insanly sharp fishing knife and tire thumper :sadyes:

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera]
    #28636094 - 01/26/24 07:37 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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Of course gun control works. Look at the examples listed in this very thread.

It doesn't work in the US because we are a bunch of gun masturbating retards. Toddlers kill more people than good guys with guns, and the bad guys kill way more than both combined.




If you want to disarm yourself, go right ahead, but don't fuck up a good thing for everybody else.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28636101 - 01/26/24 07:42 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I own several guns but I don't keep them in my home. I keep them at my father's, because I literally have zero reason to possess them outside of occasional hobby shooting.

I live in a major metro, I have seen two guns outside of the police in 12 years. Having one is pointless. Feel free imagine all sorts of scary ways you will need your guns though.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28636139 - 01/26/24 08:08 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I can tell by people's posts who has low testosterone.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Joh.Ke] * 2
    #28636148 - 01/26/24 08:15 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

lol

You've one upped yourself in retarded comments.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera]
    #28636176 - 01/26/24 08:32 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Too delicate to own a gun?  I understand your pain.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Joh.Ke] * 4
    #28636177 - 01/26/24 08:33 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I own six guns. I just don't need them reassure myself that I am a man.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28636451 - 01/27/24 06:18 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I've got several guns and I actually took three shots last year with halfass intent to kill.
Two with a rifle and one with a pistol.

I thought the local ground hog community was trying to invade my house and I took two shots fucking around with my rifle. The first or second one I can't remember but I got a phone call from a neighbor asking what was up.

Third shot I got home from work and the bastard was scurrying out from under my porch so I took one shot aiming pretty low with my truck gun pistol. Didn't want to zing one through the neighborhood and missed his fat ass.

When I first moved in here the old neighbor lady said, "Now don't go killing my ground hogs" lol
I think she feeds them or something but since then we've come to an agreement that I get to kill them on sight.

Over the last few months of summer I methodically destroyed their closest underground tunnel system to my house. They're remarkably resilient in rebuilding but I started packing the entrances pretty tight with ashes from a burn pile and they really, really don't like that so they've moved further into the woods.

I know where they are and eventually I'll get one and feel kinda sad for a split second and then go on about my day.

(turns out there's a fucking skunk living under my house now but that's another story)

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96] * 1
    #28636467 - 01/27/24 06:39 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Be smart enough to have situational awareness

Learn to recognize bad environments and don't put yourself in a position to have to defend yourself

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: MightyWhite] * 1
    #28636473 - 01/27/24 06:46 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

One of those YouTube super CIA Seal Team Six operator guys says your brain is your most important weapon. :naughty:

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: mycosis]
    #28636481 - 01/27/24 06:53 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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I've got several guns and I actually took three shots last year with halfass intent to kill.
Two with a rifle and one with a pistol.

I thought the local ground hog community was trying to invade my house and I took two shots fucking around with my rifle. The first or second one I can't remember but I got a phone call from a neighbor asking what was up.

Third shot I got home from work and the bastard was scurrying out from under my porch so I took one shot aiming pretty low with my truck gun pistol. Didn't want to zing one through the neighborhood and missed his fat ass.

When I first moved in here the old neighbor lady said, "Now don't go killing my ground hogs" lol
I think she feeds them or something but since then we've come to an agreement that I get to kill them on sight.

Over the last few months of summer I methodically destroyed their closest underground tunnel system to my house. They're remarkably resilient in rebuilding but I started packing the entrances pretty tight with ashes from a burn pile and they really, really don't like that so they've moved further into the woods.

I know where they are and eventually I'll get one and feel kinda sad for a split second and then go on about my day.

(turns out there's a fucking skunk living under my house now but that's another story)




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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: christopera]
    #28636769 - 01/27/24 10:59 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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I own six guns. I just don't need them reassure myself that I am a man.




    I've never needed deadly force to protect myself but I've known people that have . It happens .  It's random like getting struck by lightning or attacked by a shark .
    I have allot of guns too , most of them are hand me downs for hunting , but I also have a 9mm Glock I keep in a lock box on my nightstand .  I've never viewed guns as a measurement of my manhood , we can just shake hands  and make eye contact if you want to measure yourself against me .  We will both know right away .  I don't view the decision to not own a gun a measure of someone's manhood either .
    For me  guns are just tools ,  I'd rather have it there and not need it than need it and not have it .  I don't think I even need to shoot someone to protect my family I could just simply fire a shot through the ceiling ,  99.9 % of bad guys  and even most good guys are going  to run away from the sound of gun fire .


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28636852 - 01/27/24 12:01 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I like guns, but I've gotta ask: How many times have you shot someone OP?

All the serious gun people I know have never shot someone, so this argument doesn't actually make a lot of sense even if you like guns. Like if some big beefy dude starts trying to fuck with you, what are you gonna shoot him? Come on.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: nooneman]
    #28636975 - 01/27/24 02:08 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I typically use my blinding rhetoric to fend off attackers.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Enlil]
    #28636982 - 01/27/24 02:20 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: nooneman]
    #28636989 - 01/27/24 02:30 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I currently don't own any cause I can't afford any right now but if I could I'd conceal carry a handgun where ever I go

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96] * 2
    #28636998 - 01/27/24 02:36 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Maybe have your T checked?  It sounds like you might need a bit of a boost.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Enlil]
    #28637197 - 01/27/24 05:24 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I only go around armed when I'm walking my kid in his stroller and only then because dog owners are incredibly stupid about restraining their mutts.  I don't wanna get bit while I'm stomping some pitbull's skull into the pavement.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #28637201 - 01/27/24 05:29 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Hit em with the bear mace and if that somehow fails plunge your fishing knife through the side fo their neck and punch forward to slice out thier entire jugular whilst kneeling on thier chest. :sadyes:

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: alkasike96] * 2
    #28639005 - 01/29/24 06:22 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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In states where guns are extremely hard to get and in countries like in Europe, nd Australia,the United Kingdom, and Asia where they're either outright illegal to extremely hard to get do men in those places feel the need to get ripped and jacked (some even take steroids) just so a bigger guy doesn't randomly mess with then and just so they can get a woman to talk to them?




You don’t need muscles to talk to women. Work on your conversational skills, be respectful and know how to have fun if you want to find a keeper.

Belting the shit out of someone will not bring you happiness so be careful, some things can’t be undone.

Don’t worry about that stuff. Concentrate on being a good person. Angry males usually end up with nobody, believe me.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28639019 - 01/29/24 06:55 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

That was good advice stable.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #28639021 - 01/29/24 07:02 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

The right attitude goes a long way, both with the ladies and with tough guy muscle jerks.  I used to drink at a dive bar.  You know the type.  A couple pool tables, a dart board, dim lighting, no security, mostly regulars during the week.  Sometimes the bartender would have to fill a bucket to wash blood off the sidewalk.  One night it was just the one young girl bartender and she was having trouble getting everyone to leave at closing time.  A lot of the drunks were just ignoring her even after she turned off the jukebox and turned on the lights.  So anyway, she asked me to help her pick up drinks and kick people out.  Mostly people figured it out and were fine but one guy got upset that I dumped the last warm sip of his bud light or whatever and got in my face about it.  He was taller than me, maybe 6'2" and he had some gym muscles.  I just told him the place was closed but we could talk about it outside if he wants.  So dude goes marching to the door in a huff, flings it open and steps out so I closed it and locked it behind him then helped the bartender clean up while we kept drinking and smoked a few bowls.
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Saw him a few days later and he was very apologetic and friendly.  After that we were buddies.


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    #28639574 - 01/29/24 03:37 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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    #28639578 - 01/29/24 03:38 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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That was good advice stable.




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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28639593 - 01/29/24 03:49 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Since no one else in my area carries guns I've  never had to worry about it. There's almost no shootings where I live in the socal high desert. There's some shootings but honestly most of them are police officers being shot which is terrible but I'm glad I don't have that target on my back.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #28639607 - 01/29/24 03:57 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

High desert like Lancaster or high desert like Victorville?
Either way it's pretty much guaranteed that the cops shoot more people than get shot


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28639623 - 01/29/24 04:14 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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High desert like Lancaster or high desert like Victorville?
Either way it's pretty much guaranteed that the cops shoot more people than get shot



Lancaster. I bet they do. I'm just saying as far as other citizens having guns and starting shootings there's not alot of those.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #28639634 - 01/29/24 04:21 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

There's hardly anyone out there. Head south like an hour to Pacoima.  But yeah, it's not like Florida where hella old men be shooting each other on the street all the time.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #28639635 - 01/29/24 04:21 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I bet there's a bunch of "disappeared" people tho:shrug:

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28639638 - 01/29/24 04:23 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I pissed on the air Force Base fence once at a desert party in Lancaster.  Someone set a tire on fire in the morning and I was like
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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28649554 - 02/06/24 07:59 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)



All the criminals here look like this^^^^^^^^^^

Why do I need a gun for that? They can't even stand up.

I carry like a wrench or a hammer so other tools because its not officially a weapon, but I never had to use it. I don't fear encountering a criminal with a gun. If it costs thousands of dollars to buy an illegal gun what is the chance the people in that picture saved up money to buy one? Drug dealers have guns, to shoot other drug dealers, they aren't for robbing me of the 20 I have in my wallet.


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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: viraldrome]
    #28661601 - 02/16/24 05:11 AM (2 months, 30 days ago)

I feel like we need some kids from Chicago or my hometown of Baltimore to chime in on this conversation. Middle class white people from the suburbs in most cases have never needed a gun for protection. Hell most of them have never even been in a fight.

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Re: How do young guys living in states or countries where all guns are either banned or severely regulated defend themselves? [Re: Mwj12977] * 1
    #28661646 - 02/16/24 06:26 AM (2 months, 30 days ago)

Why ask kids from Chicago? They're way less likely to own guns. The average gun owner is a middle class and middle aged white male from the suburbs, who has never been in a fight, and has never left their house without carrying because "it's dangerous out there".

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