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Offlineavrilavigne
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Pan cyan's growkit first time need help
    #28634144 - 01/25/24 08:22 AM (2 days, 23 hours ago)

Hello, I am growing pan cyan with a growkit. I have emailed vendor and asked reddit but they seem to be of no help.
They claim everything is fine but just refuse to answer any specific questions i am concerned about. I wonder if they even read what i write them. So i wanted to ask for input here.

I spray water only on the edges and give them plenty of fresh air 2-3 times a day. I was told they looked dry, but the humidity is HH which is over 90.
I did transfer them from a bag to a bigger box since the bag was much too small for how tall they grow

Lots of them have started turning dark green or black. Theres tons of small pins in the middle that refuse to grow and since the past two days nothing seems to be growing anymore.
It smells worse than ever. Some have dark black rings on the bottom of the cap.

So what am i supposed to do with this? Is everything normal like reddit is saying?
When i end up harvesting the big ones, what do i do with the pins? Theres so many of them, some i can barely even see.




Edited by avrilavigne (01/25/24 04:07 PM)


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: avrilavigne]
    #28634165 - 01/25/24 08:46 AM (2 days, 23 hours ago)

Pleas remove the vendor names, it is against the forum rules.

You can either wait or harvest the big ones, your choice. They look a bit dry to me as well


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: RockinRobot]
    #28634372 - 01/25/24 11:12 AM (2 days, 20 hours ago)

I grew the same kit as you, great shrooms those pan cyans. You should have already harvested the big ones, they are starting to go mushy and rot. Contrary to what the instructions of the kit say, you don't have to let them sporulate for 24 hours, but you let them way more than that in any case. Also, do not mist the pins, they are very sensitive. Ideally you shouldn't need to mist at all, but if you do, do it from far with very fine mist, and make sure that droplets on pins will evaporate quickly.
Yeah, they do look dry too. Growing them in the bag they came with is no problem, and I don't think you would have moisture issues if you did that.


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Edited by Skropi (01/25/24 11:14 AM)


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: Skropi]
    #28634690 - 01/25/24 04:04 PM (2 days, 15 hours ago)

I dont get it, i should have harvested already? But everyone said to harvest them 24 hours after they drop spores. Is them changing color dropping spores? Theyre not flat either. Why wont they continue growing untill they drop spores though? I have also never misted the pins directly


Edited by avrilavigne (01/25/24 04:12 PM)


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: avrilavigne] * 3
    #28634803 - 01/25/24 06:19 PM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

Keeping this little substrate in a big tub like that won't provide favorable conditions. If you keep em in a tub then put a 1/2" worth of water in there as well to help with humidity (see water tub tek). Ditch the hygrometer and use your eyes to gauge conditions instead. Whenever I see people relying on a cheap hygrometer like yours then their conditions are usually off.

When you say you are providing fresh air 2-3 times a day then I assume you are talking about fanning. This is not a good practice and does not provide constant fresh air. I would harvest all the bigger pans and put the box back in the bag. I would modify the bag to provide ample FAE like the two examples shown in the photos below. This is obviously just a dummy bag to show what I mean. Two openings at the top and a few holes punched into the sides above the rim of the container:




I would also mist the substrate directly and generously. This might cause the pins which are present right now to abort, I am not in your shoes though and have several grows going at a time so I don't care if things abort. You might want to be a bit more careful, alternatively you can water the surface with a syringe.

Harvesting when pans sporulate for 24hrs is some weird as advice, forget about it and once again use your eyes. The bigger fruits are clearly showing signs that they are at the end of their growth, they turn color to dark and kind of started to wilt. Pick em now and wait for new fruits to mature.


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28635235 - 01/26/24 05:19 AM (2 days, 2 hours ago)

i have sprayed more water yesterday and will pour even more in today, i have also drilled holes in the box. i dont fan, when i refresh the air i just take the growkit out of the box and push it up and down to renew all the air. the bag is just much too small.
i have noticed the smallest pins growing again since i transfered them to the box so i think they are getting good air now. i did harvest the biggest ones and cleaned up my kit ill upload another pic tonight. I still dont understand why they wouldnt grow untill they drop spores though did the dryness make the big ones abort before they were fully grown?


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: avrilavigne]
    #28635392 - 01/26/24 08:49 AM (1 day, 23 hours ago)

You should take the advice from Baba.
That bag provides better microclimate,
which is very important for pans.
We grow pounds from bags, they´re not too small.
They´ll make their way up, no worries.

Pans abort easily, some more some less.
They´re picky on conditions.

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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: avrilavigne]
    #28635430 - 01/26/24 09:36 AM (1 day, 22 hours ago)

Why did you drill holes? Why are you lifting the cake to refresh the air? How are you planning on drying the mushrooms?
I went on the vendor site and read through the kit instructions. It’s like reading a 20 year old Shroomery thread.  I can understand why you’re confused.
Listen to Baba.

Edit: spelling.


Edited by The Tao (01/26/24 09:37 AM)


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: The Tao]
    #28635607 - 01/26/24 01:01 PM (1 day, 18 hours ago)

I am looking for advice not passive aggressiveness. The replies have been pretty nasty so far, but ok here goes an update.

This is the growkit now. Most of the very small pins in the middle are growing again and fast.


Are these safe to eat? Do i take the caps off or is the stem bad too? Worth drying?


I have already been drying some overnight, how are they looking?


Edited by avrilavigne (01/26/24 01:03 PM)


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Re: Pan cyan's growkit first time need help [Re: avrilavigne] * 1
    #28635650 - 01/26/24 01:52 PM (1 day, 18 hours ago)

There’s been no hostility in this thread. Just simple questions you aren’t answering. I wondered about your drying method after reading the kit instructions mentioned pre-drying.  You’re pre-drying.
I asked why you drilled holes in a tub. You didn’t answer.
I asked why you would lift a cake for air. You didn’t answer.
You’re not the only one who may be trying to work with these kits. The questions and answers are for everyone reading.


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