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Magic Badger
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I think this is a fake.. what do you all think?
#28632056 - 01/23/24 11:37 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago) |
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This image was posted on Instagram purportedly by a well known and published wildlife photographer on assignment for Nat. Geo... It looks suspiciously to me like chanterelles growing up a tree.. something that simply doesn't happen. I suppose they might possibly be Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, but I've never really seen them growing like this either... they grown on wood, but not up trees like this, so far as I've ever observed.. and the mushrooms in the image really look like chanterelles..
What do you all think? AI fake? or real
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2QszPAsc9o/
Edited by Magic Badger (01/23/24 11:41 AM)
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Magic Badger] 1
#28632072 - 01/23/24 11:55 AM (4 days, 21 hours ago) |
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The fact that the tree just stops existing halfway up is sus
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Moria841]
#28632181 - 01/23/24 02:29 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago) |
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Quite sexy though, even if fake.
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Magic Badger
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Anglerfish]
#28632186 - 01/23/24 02:39 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago) |
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I'm not wholly anti-AI... but don't try to pass it off as genuine.. especially not as something documentary.
best reserved for things like
-------------------- Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Magic Badger]
#28632601 - 01/23/24 08:28 PM (4 days, 13 hours ago) |
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The strange thing is that I can't figure out what kind of mushroom it is. Looks like Omphalotus but it wouldn't grow there. Too orange for oysters. Too thick for Phyllotopsis.
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Magic Badger
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#28632603 - 01/23/24 08:30 PM (4 days, 13 hours ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: The strange thing is that I can't figure out what kind of mushroom it is. Looks like Omphalotus but it wouldn't grow there. Too orange for oysters. Too thick for Phyllotopsis.
Exactly... which makes me think it's not real... just too many things not quite right about it.
-------------------- Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Magic Badger]
#28632640 - 01/23/24 09:02 PM (4 days, 12 hours ago) |
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Quote:
Magic Badger said: This image was posted on Instagram purportedly by a well known and published wildlife photographer on assignment for Nat. Geo... It looks suspiciously to me like chanterelles growing up a tree.. something that simply doesn't happen. I suppose they might possibly be Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca, but I've never really seen them growing like this either... they grown on wood, but not up trees like this, so far as I've ever observed.. and the mushrooms in the image really look like chanterelles..
What do you all think? AI fake? or real
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2QszPAsc9o/
This was in my feed this morning too! I thought the same thing! My guess is AI modified
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Edited by CHUCK.HNTR (01/23/24 09:10 PM)
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#28632646 - 01/23/24 09:10 PM (4 days, 12 hours ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: The strange thing is that I can't figure out what kind of mushroom it is. Looks like Omphalotus but it wouldn't grow there. Too orange for oysters. Too thick for Phyllotopsis.
Yep, case closed
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#28633073 - 01/24/24 09:20 AM (4 days, 26 minutes ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: The strange thing is that I can't figure out what kind of mushroom it is. Looks like Omphalotus but it wouldn't grow there. Too orange for oysters. Too thick for Phyllotopsis.
Yeah, same thoughts I had.
Over saturation or color manipulation of some kind?
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Ran-D]
#28633133 - 01/24/24 10:15 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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The future of AI images will bring some real confusion. Even National Geographic reposted it which is concerning. The natural world is mind blowing as is, it doesn’t need enhancement from AI especially when it can cause such confusion.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Ran-D]
#28633141 - 01/24/24 10:23 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Chris Burkard seems to be very much a real photographer, so it would strike me as beyond the pale for either him or a publication such as National Geographic to attempt to pass off an AI generated image as an actual photo. The tree is missing its crown, but probably because it is dead and only the trunk remains standing at this point, which might also make it a more likely substrate for fungi. The text accompanying the photo is also rather specific—the tree is a sequoia located in the Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks and photographed in the fall of 2023.
I'm guessing it's a Pleurotus sp. but the color is unusual. This could be the result of some environmental factor or overly aggressive color correction / manipulation.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Lignicolous]
#28633149 - 01/24/24 10:32 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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I've seen Pleurotus dryinus with yellowish tints on conifers in the Sierras.
But the color on these is definitely embellished.
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Magic Badger
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Ran-D]
#28633805 - 01/24/24 08:36 PM (3 days, 13 hours ago) |
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Ran-D said: I've seen Pleurotus dryinus with yellowish tints on conifers in the Sierras.
But the color on these is definitely embellished.
Pleurotus have gills though... those just look really veined... they look like someone created a chanterelle- Pleurotus hybrid. Orange and veined like chanterelles, growing in clumps up a tree like Pueurotus. I was wondering if somehow someone else maybe hacked the photographer's account... I can't imagine risking one's reputation by posting anything AI.. but the whole series looks a bit odd.
-------------------- Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.
Edited by Magic Badger (01/24/24 08:38 PM)
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Magic Badger]
#28633909 - 01/24/24 11:37 PM (3 days, 10 hours ago) |
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Quote:
Magic Badger said:
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Ran-D said: I've seen Pleurotus dryinus with yellowish tints on conifers in the Sierras.
But the color on these is definitely embellished.
Pleurotus have gills though... those just look really veined... they look like someone created a chanterelle- Pleurotus hybrid. Orange and veined like chanterelles, growing in clumps up a tree like Pueurotus. I was wondering if somehow someone else maybe hacked the photographer's account... I can't imagine risking one's reputation by posting anything AI.. but the whole series looks a bit odd.
The immature gills of Pleurotus dryinus often look like that, although there's usually still a fair amount of partial veil present at that stage as well.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Lignicolous]
#28633912 - 01/24/24 11:58 PM (3 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Maybe this gives me an excuse to post some of my AI generated mushroom pictures that got me banned, they should provide some context to how realistic they can be.



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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#28634124 - 01/25/24 07:59 AM (3 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Maybe the sun is rising/setting behind the camera and casting an orange glare onto the supposed Pleurotus, which then had its saturation manipulated so it looks even more orange?
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Moria841]
#28634145 - 01/25/24 08:24 AM (3 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Moria841 said: Maybe the sun is rising/setting behind the camera and casting an orange glare onto the supposed Pleurotus, which then had its saturation manipulated so it looks even more orange?
Nah- if they are real (I'm still not convinced) and weren't really that color, it's all manipulation... there's a relatively dense fog in that photo. It's unlikely that a sunrise was cutting through it enough to affect colors...
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Edited by Magic Badger (01/25/24 08:25 AM)
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Magic Badger]
#28634156 - 01/25/24 08:41 AM (3 days, 1 hour ago) |
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It may be possible it’s entirely AI generated IMO pretty easy to make almost that exact image if you spent some time in the algorithm
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#28634313 - 01/25/24 10:30 AM (2 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Not on facebook myself, but a friend commented on Burkard's own post of this picture on his profile, suggesting it was an AI generated picture. The comment was deleted after less than an hour. I suspect Burkard is faking his pictures.
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Re: I think this is a fake.. what do you all think? [Re: Anglerfish]
#28636742 - 01/27/24 10:39 AM (23 hours, 6 minutes ago) |
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I guess he didn't account for the myco community nerding out and calling BS.
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