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Re: Pigs… [Re: loladoreen]
    #28633840 - 01/24/24 08:58 PM (3 days, 12 minutes ago)



i think this scene is just as relevant today as it was then even tho its set ~20yrs before it was made.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: mushboy]
    #28634081 - 01/25/24 07:06 AM (2 days, 14 hours ago)

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mississippi burning is a good movie.




It was a great movie.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: mushboy]
    #28634085 - 01/25/24 07:16 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

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i think this scene is just as relevant today as it was then even tho its set ~20yrs before it was made.




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This clip is far more relevant today.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28634087 - 01/25/24 07:18 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

white people are indeed afraid and jealous of black success.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: MagicMush123]
    #28634107 - 01/25/24 07:41 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

Some my be


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Re: Pigs… [Re: mushboy]
    #28634111 - 01/25/24 07:45 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

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white people are indeed afraid and jealous of black success.




No... the point I was making is that some of the most hate-filled people among us are those who do not understand class conflict, and get caught up in identity politics. They don't know who their real adversaries are.

People who get caught up in identity politics are suckers.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: loladoreen]
    #28634112 - 01/25/24 07:47 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

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Some my be




He makes dumbass blanket statements about white people all the time. In my own personal life, I've met far more brazenly, openly racist black people, than white people. His point is stupid, and largely untrue.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28634125 - 01/25/24 07:59 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

'if you aint better than a n word than who are you better than?'

yah identity politics:stonedjerk:


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I was making is that some of the most hate-filled people among us are those who do not understand class conflict




not the point of the scene or the movie. watch gene hackman discuss the film he would disagree with you but i guess you know better.

its about racism, violence and blind hatred ingrained in our culture. ... towards black people in case you needed clarification.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28634162 - 01/25/24 08:45 AM (2 days, 12 hours ago)

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'if you aint better than a n word than who are you better than?'

yah identity politics:stonedjerk:


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I was making is that some of the most hate-filled people among us are those who do not understand class conflict




not the point of the scene or the movie. watch gene hackman discuss the film he would disagree with you but i guess you know better.

its about racism, violence and blind hatred ingrained in our culture. ... towards black people in case you needed clarification.




No shit... but at the end of that clip he said that his old man was just so full of hate that he didn't realize being poor is what was killing him. His old man didn't actually hate the black man anyway. What he resented was his place in society, and to him, the black man's success was symbolic of that.

My point is that identity politics causes infighting among people who should be comrades. It's true too.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28634171 - 01/25/24 08:51 AM (2 days, 12 hours ago)

That won't go away, though....much like the planting of a wedge issue. It goes to the heart of tribalism and who is "right" and "wrong". Only be with like minded people, they have your interest and your back.

The election commercials are starting to air, one a still photo of Joe briskly taking the stairs with ease and Trump playing off the criminal charge conspiracy.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: mushboy]
    #28634186 - 01/25/24 09:11 AM (2 days, 12 hours ago)

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white people are indeed afraid and jealous of black success.



Saw a lot of this with my ex, often some variation of "how dare a black woman have the unmitigated gall to be successful in white male dominated field".


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28634201 - 01/25/24 09:19 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

Most people have jealous tendencies...
keeping up with the Joneses.

Of course there is a racial component but there is also ambition, jealousy, etc. To say that non whites don't have the same thing would be ridiculous, as they are human. It is important to consider the framework of society that makes this less or more relevant, though.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28634207 - 01/25/24 09:24 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

LOL, no this had a pure racial component.  I worked for the same company, saw and heard it with my own eyes before we even started dating.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28634209 - 01/25/24 09:25 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

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To say that non whites don't have the same thing would be ridiculous, .



No one said that except you :shrug:


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28634212 - 01/25/24 09:29 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

The response was to the topic in general and was not a blanket retort to your specific situation. I wasn't there, why would I pretend to know the extent?


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28634214 - 01/25/24 09:30 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

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To say that non whites don't have the same thing would be ridiculous, .



No one said that except you :shrug:




Again, I am referring to humanity,  they come in all colors, dude. Not sure how that is offensive.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28634247 - 01/25/24 09:51 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

who said it was offensive besides you? :shrug:  You seem to be projecting a lot.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28634260 - 01/25/24 10:00 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

Wow, just stop now dude, and take your misguided lumps as a lesson.

Your the one with the emoji and the typical reaction  of "how dare someone bring up that" insinuation. It's a constant refrain in these situtations and you nailed it.

Further, you armchair psychology of my "projection" based of a response in a thread, just as laughable.


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Re: Pigs… [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28634273 - 01/25/24 10:08 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

:lolwut:

I am actually confused.  Did you mean the words you used or not?  I can only respond to what you write down, and I cannot infer in a reply you make to me, that it was some sort of off topic generalization or however you worded your supposed non sequitor


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Re: Pigs… [Re: Ice9]
    #28634277 - 01/25/24 10:10 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

Exactly.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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