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Bardy


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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 2
#28624154 - 01/17/24 01:45 AM (11 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Freedom said: I kind of want to just keep hearing the blind ass' song,
something of a light touch there, dancing along
it was like an 18 year old was going to conquer his demons and rise above!!!! and he pushed and fought and he
well its like those movies you know? the main charcter against all odds, a great will to make it happen
and along the way a hardened heart, a toughened body steeled against the world, rough inside and out, even with a softened facade
and then one day perhaps like a siren song off in the distance, his own heart whispers called, and the direction that way could not be forced, all the signs said, 'let go'
and the body softened and all sorts of hidden pains emerged, surendered to again and again, softening and softening and as he opened to his heart, let go of the world, till the world started calling to his heart, "do something"
so again to his feet, learn to push with intention again, yet this time without the will of the fighter, perhaps now a clumsy student learning to dance, falling down and having to stand up again and again, patience now rulling instead of fight
and as he began to dance, even the softer will still had its edges, and so another softening, not as extreme as the last
and
sort of like that. maybe not so linear, and well stories are always off in some way or other
Absolutely beautiful 👏👌
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Bardy] 1
#28624230 - 01/17/24 06:07 AM (11 days, 2 hours ago) |
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all that and pushing back against the sky.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: redgreenvines] 1
#28624417 - 01/17/24 10:13 AM (10 days, 22 hours ago) |
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and trying from time to time making as tremendous an effort as possible
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 2
#28624459 - 01/17/24 11:03 AM (10 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Acceptance And stop blocking things out its part of what made me- me
Edited by loladoreen (01/17/24 08:21 PM)
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: loladoreen] 3
#28625231 - 01/17/24 08:08 PM (10 days, 12 hours ago) |
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i was able to through meditation with shrooms go into myself and find places when i was young that i started various attachments. some healthy some not.
integration of these experiences is being aware of them. this has allowed me to distance myself and let go of behaviors, people and beliefs that were not serving my life in positive ways.
however i think freedom said the same thing
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 1
#28626828 - 01/19/24 07:46 AM (9 days, 49 minutes ago) |
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The impossibility for reality and things/beings being other than what they are. You could be anyone and likely would maybe not even like yourself if you'd met a you born in a different time, place and/or culture. There's really no choice on that level. Realizing others don't have a choice in the way they are is very chill.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Ferdinando]
#28626917 - 01/19/24 09:20 AM (8 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Ferdinando said: and trying from time to time making as tremendous an effort as possible
if it can be related to being calm, otherwise I question pushing so hard, except when a tree falls down and blocks the road. even then it should be possible to cut the tree into manageable bits. so OK big efforts, but performed in manageable efforts.
I hope this is understandable. we don't want to explode or anything.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: redgreenvines] 1
#28628549 - 01/20/24 12:55 PM (7 days, 19 hours ago) |
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From my first experience after getting ripped off and the guy thinking I didn't know what effects it had. Well, he was wrong, and he felt super bad about it, so he brought me to someone.
This someone said I could have five hits for $15
He dropped them into my hand from a bottle with clear liquid inside.
After which, i actually asked, "now what?"
"Just lick it man!"
So I did. I thought I seriously was given water. That stuff was clear, it didn't taste like *anything*, and it was the purest stuff I ever had. Had to be almost pure, which means about 300ug per hit, so my first real experience with tripping was 1500ug of Lucy. It blew me away, completely.
What I integrated with that, was to pursue a degree in psychology, because what I felt was so profound, that it gave me a real drive to do better in college
So far, I would have to go back in my mind to find a better example of insight after tripping. I'll think of something better
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loladoreen


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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 1
#28630062 - 01/21/24 03:52 PM (6 days, 16 hours ago) |
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I have thought about this. I have tripped a lot more than normal the past month.
I had one trip where I realized one of many motivations in life I have. Is sex. Something I have never considered before. I really explored that. And to be frank I was shocked at the realization. But, it is true. Shocked because if I was to compare myself to others my age and sex.... I have lived a very sexually modest life. I integrated this into asking myself honestly what my motivation for something is and why. Another trip I had was seeing my body not as sexual object or maternal shell. And realizing I don't allow myself to enjoy because it is based on always protecting it. Both of those were deeply seeded from a strict religious upbringing. And what I had integrated was to live more authentically even if it goes against family, ingrate morals from childhood, and society norms. I wish I had written when it was more fresh. It was quite profound for me. Like living a lie and being dishonest to myself in a way that was very unfaithful to my authenticity. Leaving me a little saddened but inspired. I dont know if anyone can resonate with it. Integrating how to pursue my intentions with an authentic goal as opposed to fear, or this is the right thing to do. I have lived my entire life doing the right things. Doesn't feel good when I am alone in my own thoughts.... sometimes. I have been more vocal about how I really feel. Deep down. I express my feelings towards others authentically but I dont do it towards myself. I have held a higher ground for myself often. Also unfair to myself. I think I thought it kept me safe. From physical, sexual and emotional harm. And in good graces with past partners, and family members. sorry I went on so long.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: loladoreen] 2
#28630733 - 01/22/24 07:40 AM (6 days, 56 minutes ago) |
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^ try to make this brief if it helps at all. From someone who is highly sexually active, happily married 8yrs now, but was largely single up that point. Although I’m not innocent I was never a man whore. Watched a lot of porn but I was always torn between “chasing women” because I am so highly sexually driven, but it never felt right either to chase random women just to get laid. Deep down I always wanted real and lasting. But it’s like we’re supposed to wonanize and you’re a loser if you don’t.
It sounds to me like you’re in the same boat. Which it’s normal to be sexually driven of course, but not everyone is highly sexual. Plenty of women complain about their relationships. Most probably. My wife and I both are highly sexual yet we’re also loyal to the core and can not understand infedelity. Now that I’m happily married it all makes sense, but it was very confusing and quite difficult to handle in my single years. Not only due to society pressure/influence but my own desires and frustrations as well. It’s a difficult time. Partially why dating is so rough.
Edited by PancyanterA (01/22/24 07:49 AM)
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: PancyanterA] 1
#28630742 - 01/22/24 07:55 AM (6 days, 40 minutes ago) |
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I guess this raises the question of “what is the body?” And “how do I relate to it?” Am I in it? Do I create my perception of it? Does my societal conditioning create my perception of it? Am I in it or apart from it?
Does it annoy me/do I hate it/does it give me pleasure/is it a source of tremendous fear?
Psychedelics are great for putting a microscope to all this. I did have a profound insight when I was young, at a time that I loathed my body and self-image, when I was on mushrooms and staring at my face in the mirror -watching it morph in all sorts of cool and grotesque and beautiful ways - and I realized that I really DO create my perception of myself, moment to moment, by “choosing what to look for,” if that makes sense. Look for ugliness, one will find it. Look for threat, same. Look for grace and beauty, same. This was liberating for me.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 1
#28630750 - 01/22/24 08:05 AM (6 days, 31 minutes ago) |
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One of many reasons I started working out was when I realized that my body holds my soul. I needed to care for it. And I feel I feel better emotionally, physically, spiritually when I do. I didn't realize that I didn't allow myself to enjoy it because I was always protecting it. In the moment saddened me. But no longer sad. A need to appreciate and understand that I need to be grateful for being a healthy person. And instead of fighting for it, embracing it. Idk if it's relatable . But some people have illnesses and I don't. I should be celebrating that. And also accepting the responsibility of what i feed my body to ensure my continued health. When you're in a protective position you miss out on experiencing pleasure. Very fear based. It was enlightening
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: loladoreen]
#28631034 - 01/22/24 12:45 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago) |
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loladoreen said: One of many reasons I started working out was when I realized that my body holds my soul. I needed to care for it. And I feel I feel better emotionally, physically, spiritually when I do. I didn't realize that I didn't allow myself to enjoy it because I was always protecting it. In the moment saddened me. But no longer sad. A need to appreciate and understand that I need to be grateful for being a healthy person. And instead of fighting for it, embracing it. Idk if it's relatable . But some people have illnesses and I don't. I should be celebrating that. And also accepting the responsibility of what i feed my body to ensure my continued health. When you're in a protective position you miss out on experiencing pleasure. Very fear based. It was enlightening
That is very relatable 
Mushrooms always make me go “oh yeah, I have a body I need to take care of too!”
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Psicomb] 1
#28631566 - 01/22/24 10:47 PM (5 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Tripping made me into a science fiction fan. I used to trip in the evening and reruns of the original Star Trek would be on TV at midnight. They made that show right when people were discovering LSD and it comes through in a lot of the episodes.
I've always been looking for SciFi stories written by authors who tripped. Phillip K Dick is my favorite.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: loladoreen] 1
#28631580 - 01/22/24 11:09 PM (5 days, 9 hours ago) |
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sexual behavior biologically is an activity that produces a high. we can chase the dragon but it is not us, even though it seems to drive and reward the body and mind which is what we are for a while.
what I mean is that once we become sexually mature and active, it is a dimension that we can enjoy - explore - exploit - etc. but do not identify with it.
as we age beyond "sexual maturity" into menopause and manopause the absurdity becomes quaint, but the majority of people do not understand that this happens, and it happens unpredictably.
anyway, you may experience a final flare out, or sputtering of late sexuality, enjoy it as you can, but do not identify with it. it is a relic of our evolution, and not worth tossing away good relationships over.
Dealing with this has lead to many realistic positions, sex workers to help those who are sputtering, and societies that encourage or tolerate infidelity.
each of us is the best arbiter of their own relationships and fate, so I say enjoy the sputters as you can but be realistic and do not identify with the echoes of something really of no importance that evolved in our species before we lived beyond the pauses.
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Universe]
#28631582 - 01/22/24 11:11 PM (5 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Universe said: Tripping made me into a science fiction fan. I used to trip in the evening and reruns of the original Star Trek would be on TV at midnight. They made that show right when people were discovering LSD and it comes through in a lot of the episodes.
I've always been looking for SciFi stories written by authors who tripped. Phillip K Dick is my favorite.
that's fantastic. I am reading a large collection of over 800 epubs that I found of star trek novels. (some of them were not properly OCR'ed but I don't mind working it out.) I spend more time at that than anything else. hahaha!
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Universe]
#28632160 - 01/23/24 01:45 PM (4 days, 18 hours ago) |
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Universe said: Tripping made me into a science fiction fan. I used to trip in the evening and reruns of the original Star Trek would be on TV at midnight. They made that show right when people were discovering LSD and it comes through in a lot of the episodes.
I've always been looking for SciFi stories written by authors who tripped. Phillip K Dick is my favorite.

Right on. Ditto, Ditto. 
Oh yea...


Perchance, have you checked out any of the above? 
They're...IDK...so-so..pretty good...I guess. > / 
But yeah, more or less, all the above + Isaac Asimov's + Philip K Dick's stuff? All in all, there's only so much greatness between the sheets I can handle before it's almost be too much. (sometimes). 
...and I'd bet there are plenty more of wherever ^those came from, so to speak, but that I've not even become aware of yet. So much goodness...not enough time to get to all the goodies, you know?

Anyways....Sci-Fi....

some pretty sweet ideas & concepts to play around with, fosho. 
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#28632202 - 01/23/24 02:58 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago) |
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love the cixin liu books ( I think I only read Death's End (part of three body problem) but will read them all when I can)
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Re: What have you integrated from tripping? [Re: Freedom] 3
#28632213 - 01/23/24 03:12 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago) |
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I was tripping on shrooms that we had foraged when I was in college and it changed the entire trajectory of my life. I had an epiphany/mental revelation (in a nice warm shower) that I should change my major and I did. Very powerful stuff, I'm thankful for the guidance, and grateful how it has all turned out over the 20 years since that event!
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