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stupidity is a form of assault
#28631791 - 01/23/24 07:27 AM (4 days, 12 hours ago) |
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"Now, the way I see it, stupidity is a form of assault. What is assault? What is rape? Rape is the invasion of your body without consent, any part of your body. Could be your genitalia, but could also be your brain.
Secondhand smoke is respiratory rape, because someone forces smoke into your body. Ambient noise pollution is auditory rape. The great unwashed is olfactory rape. Unwanted touch, invasion of private space are tactile rape. Not fully consensual sex is rape, pure and simple.
All forms of abuse constitute emotional rape. And in my view, stupidity is a rape. It is an intellectual rape. Someone forces his idiocy, his criticism, his moronic views into my brain without my consent and permission. He is raping me intellectually.
Rape should be criminalized in all its forms. Rape should be penalized in all its forms. The perpetrators should be relegated to penal colonies, virtual or otherwise."
Beware the Stupid Takeover! (Sam Vaknin Rant)
https://vaknin-talks.com/transcripts/Beware_the_Stupid_Takeover_Sam_Vaknin_Rant_Read_PINNED_COMMENT
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"Youngsters today, according to this study, are focused on money, image, and fame, and they disparage values such as community, voluntarism, the environment, and knowledge acquisition. Ostentatious social activism is a form of virtue signaling. These youngers are socially active, demand justice in mass protests, on camera, they're posing, they're faking, they're out to garner likes and attention." Beware the Stupid Takeover! (Sam Vaknin Rant)
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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I read most of it, I know how he feels, but the effort to make it funny keeps it sad. in fact I feel more stupid after reading it.
I wish there was something positive to add to it. there is alas no clear remedial call to action in the face of narcissism and egalitarian stupidity.
Pointing out a good direction would be smart.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/health/falling-iq-scores-study-intl/index.html
the IQ test of yesteryear may not be as relevant now, although, I think that some of it is still core.
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You can wear sunglasses to look at the world ugly. You can look at the world free of those glasses and have optimistic view towards it all.
We are all just riding along on this planet going through the emotional changes.
Happy Belly. Happy Mind.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: WhoManBeing]
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Lol, that was a terrible read! samvaknin, one word, seems to think he's really on to something insightful while- ironically- making observations that appear equal in quality to the percieved output of the imbeciles he derides for about 3.5K words. My cringe muscles are now RIPPED off that workout. We get it. Dumb dummies are so dumb, women love meatheads. Why do smart guys get shit on? Because dumb fuckin dummies rule the world. And they're duuuuuuuuuuuuuumb, not like samvankin. Studies SHOW.


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But the stupid were wary. They were careful. They were cautious. They were afraid to express these opinions, lest they be shamed, ridiculed, and shunned by their betters. The stupid kept to themselves. They knew that if they were to venture out and offer their inane opinions or judgments or ideas, they would be put down metaphorically and sometimes physically.
So, they were afraid. They kept their counsel to themselves.
But this is no longer the case.

inb4 The fact I read the article; and am commenting about it despite knowing what it was gonna contain, perhaps proves some of his 'points'...
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redgreenvines said: in fact I feel more stupid after reading it.
Me feeling more stupidly after too, MUCH.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Lithop] 1
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The thing about Sam Vaknin is he claims to be a psychopathic narcissist, so it's highly unlikely that he's capable of producing or writing anything that isn't insensible, or as he puts it, stupid, dumb, imbecilic.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Lithop]
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Apparently it is a real thing https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=decline+in+IQ
As a young adult I had to work hard to realize and appreciate that many of us are differently intelligent. I was very elitist. I grieved that what I was noticing was invisible to nearly everyone. Then I started to catch on that people each had something different going on.
I really learned to appreciate others - but the backlash in the rise of fascism, terrorism, school shootings, anti-vaxism, etc. makes me want to find a nice hole and crawl inside.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28631940 - 01/23/24 09:42 AM (4 days, 9 hours ago) |
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My 13-Year-Old Child Drinks Vodka Every Friday | Health Documentary | Absolute Documentaries
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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That is a gross overuse of the word rape so as to make it superfluous, and consequently meaningless.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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Cory Duchesne said: The thing about Sam Vaknin is he claims to be a psychopathic narcissist, so it's highly unlikely that he's capable of producing or writing anything that isn't insensible, or as he puts it, stupid, dumb, imbecilic.
Yeah that checks out. Don't get me wrong, I experience stuff that hints to an eerily Idiocracyesque future too. My sense was just that to take the stance he did- as seriously as he did, does point to a concerning lack of intelligence equal to the concerns he posits. Insensible, absolutely. It just read like a teen edgelord post to me man, which as pointed out, offers no clue toward resolution.

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redgreenvines said: Apparently it is a real thing https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=decline+in+IQ
As a young adult I had to work hard to realize and appreciate that many of us are differently intelligent. I was very elitist. I grieved that what I was noticing was invisible to nearly everyone. Then I started to catch on that people each had something different going on.
I really learned to appreciate others - but the backlash in the rise of fascism, terrorism, school shootings, anti-vaxism, etc. makes me want to find a nice hole and crawl inside.
Yeah definitely important to appreciate how vast the scope of what each individuals has to contribute, 'differently intelligent' is the perfect way to put it. I'd wager sometimes, people DID notice the things you thought they didn't, but just held the outcome or whatever in a lot lower regard so just bypassed it. I understand that IQ could be dropping but in the grand scheme of things, I think there is a lot more hope for intelligence (as defined as "the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills")to become a broader term, equally useful as high intelligence for world progression, as his rant and rants of their nature imply. Like in action RPG like Fallout: you allocate attribute points to your S.P.E.C.I.A.L (being strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck.) there are many ways to achieve a balanced and effective build outside of 'min-maxing' where reduced intelligence doesn't mean reduced goodness, efficacy etc. Yes too, to the last part of your comment but IRL I very rarely come across much of that outrage fodder. I think there's something to be said for the fact that in the past, the amount opinions one may be subject to alone was way lesser than it is online.
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Blue_Lux said: That is a gross overuse of the word rape so as to make it superfluous, and consequently meaningless.
Yep, typical edgelord style.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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By his definition of rape, he has been raped many times. He is a self described demented psychopathic narcissist himself, so, he defines himself and things in a way that negates his contributions. I see someone desperately flapping his mouth for book sales.
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genius level flappery
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I disagree with the idea of stupidity being rape. It's a stupid idea.
As far as the subject matter, anyone intelligent who's been around more than 3-4 decades knows the population is dumber. No real focus in the article on causes and solutions. I don't think there are easy solutions, but if I felt compelled to write an article about it I would at least attempt to identify the causes and offer solutions.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault *DELETED* [Re: redgreenvines]
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Okay, no. You know what is rape? A plethora of internet ads. Ear rape. The Google Fi was actually... I felt violated.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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Huh...fyi...I was referring to 'overall general rehabilitation' [not the drug kind] (one that was actually tailored for an individual, one that was guilty of having committed some serious crimes ) and 'cultivation' (of a sort) regarding those labeled as: terrorists, school shooters, and others similar but different variations on a theme of those, btw.
Anywho
Apologies If I misunderstood and.... just delved way out of bounds and out of touch there, . Ffs...Crap...
Whoopsies...? 

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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
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I've learned to open and close doors more quietly. Some people really are sensitive to noise. Also, the sound of a couple having sex is to be one of the most peculiar phenomena that a single person has to experience. The experience of being single and being stuck in the same premises as a sexually active couple is not a pleasant one. The worst is when you're not even sure who is there. I would rather know who is there than to hear loud repetitive slapping noises and not even know for sure who is there. That's why, at the ripe age of 43, I have come to believe that sex is for reproduction and the only pleasure sex affords is at the expense of other people's ears. I no longer believe it's a pleasure, maybe for the couple, but not for the isolated.
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God...:picard.
@ B Lux. Ty, I'll take that post down. Beyond it possibly being one of the more private more personal things i've shared on these forums over the years beyond a photo or so, I think I jumped into the game half way in without knowing the score, in a manner of speaking...for fear mr. rgv might have been saddened by the lack of hope from that found in whatever he was responding to that i guess i was drawing from - and it just flew and started flowing from there. Idk, I got caught up in the heat of the moment, I suppose. Idk what I was thinking.
Has my big dumb stupidity has assaulted you? 
Forgive me, bruddha! 
@ Corey
Hnnn...I guess that might be unpleasant, sometimes. Depending....
Have you opened a dialogue with them about your concerns? Generally a simple but efficient way to approach some issue with other people. At least to start. If you had a partner with you and they were the same, would you still be uncomfortable with your neighbors doing the beast with two backs? They are just human, afterall, you know?
Sound cancelling earplugs + some white noise and or ambient music to help muffle things, investing in thickening the walls of your place with special padding, etc, might be a decent temporary solution to look into.
I was once with someone who would get very loud during intercourse, and, lol, I was the one who was like, yo, should we ughh, consider the neighbors? I never got an answer at the time and we usually forget about it afterwards. (i'm not with ^ ol' yell-her or anyone else, not atm, and i love it)
So unless someone approached us at that time...how would we each know for certain our actions were potentially...not harming? But maybe kinda encroaching upon another's ability to concentrate, focus, or their privacy? Now, that? I would respect someone who came and talked to us if still living in the above scenario, had that been the case, or, any other good reason for that matter unless it meant something dire to my own relationship for accommodating your request.
Who knows if you'd reciprocate if the situation were flipped?
Regardless, there's sometimes some way to adjust things so that a mutually beneficial arrangement can be had. But it wont happen if no one communicates.
Might help. Doubt it will hurt (not too badly anyways) If not, earplug it up and white noise or some music w/e. 
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I heard, and I've posted this on here before, some really passionate sex in the hotel room next to me, in a relatively nice hotel, on 7 grams of mushrooms. You are right. What happened was, believe it or not, when I had my eyes closed I was seeing all kinds of patterns and then they formed all these mushrooms, and then one giant one growing, and when the cap opened and released the spores, the sex got very loud in the room next to me. The mushroom turned into a cartoonish looking penis ejaculating, and the spores were the sperm. There was a lot more to this, and it was in such a way that it felt like the mushroom was making a joke. It was very funny and I busted out laughing. It was bizarre however.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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I once had sex with a lady on someone's coach in the living room. It was a party. Everyone went home and her and I were left alone on the coach. The guy who owned the house went to sleep by himself, and kind of just left me and the lady alone. I have no idea if he heard us. I was trying to be quiet. About twenty years later I had an experience where I was left alone and heard someone in my parents living room slapping really loud. My brain honestly could not tell if it was rape or not. The next morning I woke up and checked to see if everyone was okay and based on the facial expressions I couldn't tell if the situation was safe or not. I called the police and asked them to make sure no one was raped, because I couldn't tell who was there and what had occurred. I only knew about my own experience in someone else's house, living room, coach. The lady I was with broke up with me, and if I knew she was going to dump me I would have just avoided her. That's why as I get older I don't really see the pleasure in sex, it's just, one person dominating the other. I believe in family planning, not casual hookups at a party or on someone else's coach / living room.
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I was once with someone who would get very loud during intercourse, and, lol, I was the one who was like, yo, should we ughh, consider the neighbors?
I had a similar experience more than a few times. I once suggested we get off the bed and do it on the floor so the bed didn't make such a racket. I get the feeling of being on an overcrowded planet without enough space or privacy. As I said, it took a couple decades, but I just don't believe sex is for enjoyment or pleasure, it just seems that way when you're young. Even masturbating has become this shameful thing that people try to hold against you. I see zero satisfaction or pleasure in it. If I had to live my life all over again, I would just focus on having a family and being with a lady who would stay with me, a good match, not some lopsided thing.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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“If we feel our way into the human secrets of the sick person, the madness also reveals its system, and we recognize in the mental illness merely an exceptional reaction to emotional problems which are not strange to us." ― Carl Gustav Jung, The Psychogenesis of Mental Disease
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A Johnny cash cover song about heartbreak:
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Lmao that was one dirty coach, huh?
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Yes, Jung was genius. He points things out so succinctly, just like Freud.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28632709 - 01/23/24 10:36 PM (3 days, 20 hours ago) |
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He had some cool stuff for sure. I've been meaning to check some more out at some point in time. Now though, I've already much too much on my plate.
You might change that if by chance (or anyone reading) can confirm what means C. Jung was using to perform his "self experiments" detailed in Liber Novus? iirc: compiled of self anecdotal writings of experiences of an *sniffs around* m a y b e like of a psychedelic nature or some psychoactive might've been involved, perhaps?
Even if not, it might be worth a look-see sometime later on.
I haven't checked it out myself yet, but knowing if he were using some means like I mentioned, if at all, were involved or not? It might prompt me to rise early and head straight for the library - if so. Since, due to some of the relationships he formed over his life with other people; some that, it's been confirmed - as having themselves partaken of fungi and or hoffman's potion (possibly mescaline, too) makes me all the more curious...
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redgreenvines said: Apparently it is a real thing https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=decline+in+IQ
As a young adult I had to work hard to realize and appreciate that many of us are differently intelligent. I was very elitist. I grieved that what I was noticing was invisible to nearly everyone. Then I started to catch on that people each had something different going on.
I really learned to appreciate others - but the backlash in the rise of fascism, terrorism, school shootings, anti-vaxism, etc. makes me want to find a nice hole and crawl inside.
hmm the middle way would help with that
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redgreenvines said: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/health/falling-iq-scores-study-intl/index.html
the IQ test of yesteryear may not be as relevant now, although, I think that some of it is still core.
hmm buddhists want to develop their intelligence and compassion
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Ferdinando]
#28632858 - 01/24/24 05:31 AM (3 days, 14 hours ago) |
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I appreciate that
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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Blue_Lux said: Lmao that was one dirty coach, huh?
I could go into more explicit details, but it that would seem wrong to me. At the party, I wouldn't smoke any weed that night and when of my high school buddies asked, "Why aren't you smoking weed tonight, Cory?" My reply was, "You'll see." He laughed and thought it was ridiculous that I was reply in such a short way. He and everyone else left the party and it was just me, the lady and the guy who owned the house. I lost track of everything but the lady and the lights were all off. Just her and I on the coach. I couldn't ask for a better night, were it not for the fact that we broke up a few months later. She felt we never connected. Twenty years later I was single and smoking weed, came home to my parents place and wandered in the downstairs basement high. Heard the slappying noise above me coming from the living room. It was like some kind of demonic karma paying me back.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Ferdinando]
#28632875 - 01/24/24 06:00 AM (3 days, 13 hours ago) |
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A song about the middle way,
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28632882 - 01/24/24 06:04 AM (3 days, 13 hours ago) |
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My third girlfriend, who was 23 and I was 33, she and I had done dirty more than a few times together, and I had with her an archetypal experience where there was eros/cupid as matchmaker, and I was Apollo, and she was Daphne. I experienced a paranoia where I thought she was trying to poison me. We broke up shortly after that because my paranoia sabotaged our relationship, but the paranoia of being poisoned was part of the larger archetypal pattern. I'm now on a involuntary community treatment order where I get injected with abilify every third wednesday. It's like my fears came true, because if I understand it correctly, abilify is an anti psychotic which has deleterious long term effects.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28632906 - 01/24/24 06:42 AM (3 days, 12 hours ago) |
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"That's all I wanted to do as a kid. Play guitar properly and jump around. But too many people got in the way." Syd Barret
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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I have a hearing disability I am not sure why, but I tend to panic if the music is too loud and everyone is jumping around. then again, I love to stop making sense.
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That must have been one big coach!
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28633034 - 01/24/24 08:41 AM (3 days, 10 hours ago) |
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The coach has been bad luck, to say the least. I somehow managed to make it to 43 years of age without getting a lady pregnant. I used to proud of the fact I could avoid family life. Now.... my life has became an empty wasteland. I got CTO'd and have to face the next few years pretty much force drugged with abilify which makes everything seem dull and tedious, including myself.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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redgreenvines said: Apparently it is a real thing https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=decline+in+IQ
As a young adult I had to work hard to realize and appreciate that many of us are differently intelligent. I was very elitist. I grieved that what I was noticing was invisible to nearly everyone. Then I started to catch on that people each had something different going on.
I really learned to appreciate others - but the backlash in the rise of fascism, terrorism, school shootings, anti-vaxism, etc. makes me want to find a nice hole and crawl inside.
I know them feels, truly, I do. I work on it, although it can be very tiresome, so draining at times. But, what else can we do? I'm still working on the highlighted parts of your quote, verily so, and, as more or less as an 'ever-beginner', too, but still. Life's a trip so... (and then some too)
TLDR: The Must Read, Now Longer Edition!
As to your above quote? Same'ish, my bruddha, same'ish.  At least, seemingly so from where I stand, As if at an edge within the shared moment. Albeit with different differences about us differently, too. If I may...in my own way, too.  
...? S t i l l ! ... ~ ~
By the way... -and- for whatever it might be worth...
I think you're amongst, if not literally - the most easily relatable of ,and, of the more decent of all human beings of whom I've ever had the pleasure of 'encountering' in my life (/thus far). Basically, very good hearted -and- w/ a very good head on your shoulders too.
(wordily) Wordlessly appreciative of by yours truly. 
*The virtuality notwithstanding. But sure, it, also factors in too. 
Anywho, This place would not be the same without you. Nor would it be the same without so many other greatly diverse 'players' ~ whom I also dig and love in my own kind of lil way. 
Moreover, truly Idk if I would even still be here (or, even here-here) either, had your clear headed crazy sanity not been around and helped (intentionally and or unintentionally) to inadvertently help me help myself through some very difficult times of being surrounded by with what can seem and often is so much Insanity & Madness (as per usual...born of ignorance, and, just human nature in general, too) at numerous times in my life while it was thickly as if all around me, sometimes, even such that it sometimes feels like it might seep in a bit too.
This place, yourself, and so many other members here, can oftentimes help share the 'weight' - in a way that, seemingly, no matter what, apparently the light of something of an unsustainable goodness shines does shine brightly & clearly through.
Ie. Keep on being you, RGV! - for as long as you can be... just being only (you/)true.    
fyi? 
!!! ~ I demand it ~!!! 

ps. the link in your quote is not loading, at least, not for me.
p.s.s. to all you so many other awesome shroomerites too? I love you guys/gals/others/etc...
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These links are getting dumber too Hasta la vista baby
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yep.
time to get back to The Good Book!, wait no, I meant, The Canterbury Tales ...
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"The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution"
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Cory Duchesne said: "Now, the way I see it, stupidity is a form of assault. What is assault? What is rape? Rape is the invasion of your body without consent, any part of your body. Could be your genitalia, but could also be your brain.
Secondhand smoke is respiratory rape, because someone forces smoke into your body. Ambient noise pollution is auditory rape. The great unwashed is olfactory rape. Unwanted touch, invasion of private space are tactile rape. Not fully consensual sex is rape, pure and simple.
All forms of abuse constitute emotional rape. And in my view, stupidity is a rape. It is an intellectual rape. Someone forces his idiocy, his criticism, his moronic views into my brain without my consent and permission. He is raping me intellectually.
Rape should be criminalized in all its forms. Rape should be penalized in all its forms. The perpetrators should be relegated to penal colonies, virtual or otherwise."
Beware the Stupid Takeover! (Sam Vaknin Rant)
https://vaknin-talks.com/transcripts/Beware_the_Stupid_Takeover_Sam_Vaknin_Rant_Read_PINNED_COMMENT
I am aware that these words are being painted in the canvas of your mind. I'm aware that I am participating in creating your mind at this moment as you read these words. You don't know what the next thing I'll write will be, and cannot consent to what I may say.
All things are interdependent. Creation and destruction are the same thing. The wind blows, the trees move, my mind becomes trees dancing in the wind. Life is intimate.
We are created out of each other's stupidity and intelligence. Each of us has stupidity and intelligence that helps create each other. This is just how it is; we can't change that. We can learn to accept it.
I think violence is different than this basic interdependence. When exposed to violence we can be harmed in ways that disrupts our basic functioning. To equate these things not only minimizes the impact of violence, it puts ourselves in a position of victimhood in relation to interdependence, to life itself.
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Cory Duchesne said: "Now, the way I see it, stupidity is a form of assault. What is assault? What is rape? Rape is the invasion of your body without consent, any part of your body. Could be your genitalia, but could also be your brain.
Secondhand smoke is respiratory rape, because someone forces smoke into your body. Ambient noise pollution is auditory rape. The great unwashed is olfactory rape. Unwanted touch, invasion of private space are tactile rape. Not fully consensual sex is rape, pure and simple.
All forms of abuse constitute emotional rape. And in my view, stupidity is a rape. It is an intellectual rape. Someone forces his idiocy, his criticism, his moronic views into my brain without my consent and permission. He is raping me intellectually.
Rape should be criminalized in all its forms. Rape should be penalized in all its forms. The perpetrators should be relegated to penal colonies, virtual or otherwise."
Beware the Stupid Takeover! (Sam Vaknin Rant)
https://vaknin-talks.com/transcripts/Beware_the_Stupid_Takeover_Sam_Vaknin_Rant_Read_PINNED_COMMENT
This seems like a case of the pot calling the kettle black, because you have the option of not engaging with the stupidity of others.
In what case do you think one could not do that?
If the case is that you can consent to not engaging with stupid ideas.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: sudly]
#28634025 - 01/25/24 05:42 AM (2 days, 13 hours ago) |
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I have no opportunity of not engaging with the stupidity of myself or others, but I do have the opportunity of doing it with dignity
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: sudly]
#28634075 - 01/25/24 06:59 AM (2 days, 12 hours ago) |
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This seems like a case of the pot calling the kettle black, because you have the option of not engaging with the stupidity of others.
In what case do you think one could not do that?
If the case is that you can consent to not engaging with stupid ideas.
This debate takes to the root of the problem, birth.
Birth Without Violence | Frederick Leboyer
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I've heard a similar sounding argument about rape... that all sex is really just a form of rape or something like that. I think that is wicked and evil rhetoric. Like... (ad hominem istum) Good for you, you don't feel anything about sex other than using the person for only your own sexual pleasure... That doesn't mean everyone else is the same way! That sex is fundamentally a violent act. This is disturbing quite frankly.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28634290 - 01/25/24 10:20 AM (2 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Agreed. Sex is an intimate activity which can develop a special kind of bond. Sex alone can't do that of course. Sex alone is shady, but when there's friendship and activities that promote seeing the other person as a whole person sex is what can make it special.
I have few female friends but some of them are people who I've had sex with before. We still communicate or see each other because we did develop a friendship and treat each other like whole people while we were getting naked together.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
#28634354 - 01/25/24 10:54 AM (2 days, 8 hours ago) |
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I find it staggering how many people are not free in this world, myself included. The special connection and friendship you are referring to would be some kind of freedom. We're living in a partly unfree world. I don't believe I have any special connection that would lead to safe, enjoyable sex. I might have had it when I was younger, but I lost contact with those ladies. I had an alcohol problem when I was 17-20 years old, which would have been the time when I was most sexually active. I had another chance at a sexual relationship when I was 33, but I had a psychosis while with her. I've been diagnosed with bioplar disorder, schizophrenia, paranoid personality disorder.... so there's really nothing I can say that makes sense. Congrats to the people who have freedom in their relationships and can have sex without terror or tears. I find myself isolated and not really able to work very effectively. Here in Canada, they are offering maid for people with mental illness, and I really don't see the point of my existence. Would like to have a peaceful death, considering I can't seem to find much peace in life. I think it boils down to cognitive impairment. We really are living in a world with people who do have some measure of impairment when it comes to empathy, and their grandiosity gets in the way of them appreciating the moment for what it is.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Hmmh. I know personally older people who still get it on. Not impossible. A great deal of them do. Idk what to tell you, however. At this point it sounds wreckless. Maybe some ecstasy? I don't know.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28634386 - 01/25/24 11:24 AM (2 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Assisted Dying: A Personal Story:
I think when there's a long list of things that are going wrong with a person internally, then one should seek the assistance of professional help in medicine. I take sleeping pills at night and take anti depressant in the morning. Once a month I get an injection of abilify. My quality of life has become pretty low. I watch a lot of videos on assisted dying, euthanasia, etc. I'm getting ready to die, because living has become such a tedious pain.
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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That's pretty sad. I'm sorry. I wish things to look up for you.
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Obviously I do not know what you are capable of achieving so will not make assumptions about it. You do not either and I suppose making assumptions about it isn't helpful.
I was a mostly sexless drunk from 18-31. Handful of one night stands which I did not initiate. It took the better part of 10 years being sober and generally reclusive before I started actively trying to be more social with females. I had little success until I met the right person, experienced various difficulties with that relation eventually leading to the personal realization I just shared about priorities in regard to how we treat others. Very difficult process for me.
I think it's true that we must work on being who we want to be for ourselves to build trust with someone we want to fuck. I think it's also true that we can't do it all alone and we are mostly helpless in that regard, waiting on the universe to supply necessary experience/right people which often means the hardship we need.
While I don't think the necessary path is generally straight forward, dwelling on the prospect of suicide isn't intuitively a reasonable path to mental health. I'm not a fan of positivity but I am a fan of curiosity, of sensing all potential in the unknown that is the future, not just fear and dread.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
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A further note regarding potential. Etymology of respect is not looking up (or down) to someone as though they are a static image. It's a willingness to look again with curiosity. Not assuming potential, acknowledging that we are dynamic creatures that change. Respect yourself.
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𝔢𝔱 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔦𝔩𝔦 𝔦𝔞𝔪 𝔱𝔯𝔞𝔪𝔦𝔱𝔢 𝔰𝔦𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔪
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Cory Duchesne said: I find it staggering how many people are not free in this world, myself included. The special connection and friendship you are referring to would be some kind of freedom. We're living in a partly unfree world. I don't believe I have any special connection that would lead to safe, enjoyable sex. I might have had it when I was younger, but I lost contact with those ladies. I had an alcohol problem when I was 17-20 years old, which would have been the time when I was most sexually active. I had another chance at a sexual relationship when I was 33, but I had a psychosis while with her. I've been diagnosed with bioplar disorder, schizophrenia, paranoid personality disorder.... so there's really nothing I can say that makes sense. Congrats to the people who have freedom in their relationships and can have sex without terror or tears. I find myself isolated and not really able to work very effectively. Here in Canada, they are offering maid for people with mental illness, and I really don't see the point of my existence. Would like to have a peaceful death, considering I can't seem to find much peace in life. I think it boils down to cognitive impairment. We really are living in a world with people who do have some measure of impairment when it comes to empathy, and their grandiosity gets in the way of them appreciating the moment for what it is.
I think this captures a huge issue in modern society. People are, in general, very out of touch with themselves. Because we learn from each other, we are constantly getting reinforcement to be out of touch with ourselves.
A couple years ago I had a girlfriend that got frustrated when I wanted to take things slow and really get to know each other physically and psychologically. Its like she just wanted to fuck without being aware of each other.
I think thats fine to do that sometimes, but I also wanted to really know each other with sensitivity. The relationship didn't work out.
People can only open up to you as much as they've opened up to themselves, and most people don't seem to trust themselves enough to get to know themselves and see all the layers of their mind. Like shame, or anger, or fear, or judgement, certain things are chronically and habitually avoided by almost everyone it seems.
And yet to open up its so helpful to do it with another. I think this is why therapy is becomming more popular, yet doing this an hour a week isn't really a lot of time, and then we continue to have the reinforcement from others in social situations.
For years I simply avoided people who didn't seem to have much athenticity, and was lonely, but I think I needed to do that to see through myself and live more authenticlly.
It took years to find the confidence to express myself in a way that is counter to how other people seem to, to cut through the bs and show I actually care, and see, feel, that I love etc
and then it takes even more time to learn to do this in skillful ways that don't threaten others or step on their toes
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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People can only open up to you as much as they've opened up to themselves, and most people don't seem to trust themselves enough to get to know themselves and see all the layers of their mind. Like shame, or anger, or fear, or judgement, certain things are chronically and habitually avoided by almost everyone it seems.
People need actually someone who can break past their 'defenses,' which are really structures of association, which act with a natural defense. Notice when people are in love... They fall in love. Something pierces through to them. The unfortunate thing is the sort of defenses people can acquire... And not be able to see around them or change them. You can see this in people who constantly repeat horrible relationships with different people. It is really annoying to watch. There is a playfulness in love, but if someone isn't playful, they are going to be hard to love, even if you can see their inner playfulness, for instance. That isn't enough, because only someone else may be able to provide elements that allow all of that to come out and restrengthen. Once this happens, a person may actually think back to people who had feelings for them but they previously didn't likewise have feelings for... and may have feelings about it.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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Love is dangerous. The philosopher Epicurus said a person should never fall in love too deeply with one person, because the pain is not worth it. He was a classical hedonist making a comparison between pleasures and pains, and the ethics of such things. He says people should be polyamorous. This is where I disagree but only very slightly with Epicurus. I think people can and should love one person and in a certain type of way, as many animals form pair bonding, and even stay together for life. I think, however, the pain of betrayal must be reckoned with. And this has to do with the joy or ecstasy of betrayal, of adultery. Such a thing only exists if sex and love are not separated. Many marriages have ended because one person has sexual feelings unmet, which that person feels for other people, often and usually in addition to feelings about their spouse. The spouse, on the other hand, usually sees the other's plea for forgiveness as evidence they are not to be trusted and no longer love them, that they have been betrayed because those feelings are not shared nor separated from the attachment of love of the pair. The issues of monogamy have been reconciled traditionally with brothels and strip clubs and pimps. If you want an alternative, it is actually an extremely proximal solution. It is in maintaining a distinction, if you have either feelings of polyamory or monogamy, between feelings that can only be properly given to one person versus feelings that can be given to others, and shared. I am monogamous. We have discussed polyamory; however, there are few people to trust, and we both are pretty jealous about each other, even though that is really dumb. We have agreed we can do whatever we want with anyone we want, and it won't affect our marriage. We don't however. But we have discussed it, because we have fantasies, and some couples like to swing, whatever. We have both agreed, however, that if we were to ever get a divorce, we'd never do it again. It is a lot to get to know someone. It is actually a lifelong commitment, but to have sex with someone and also have some sort of feelings of love for them, perhaps shared feelings, is not. There is a lot more to a marriage than sex. Actually... marriage is like a psychedelic experience. Seeing someone change alongside you... you know everything about them, and they you. That is something different than having some moments with other people, which, newsflash, people desire and experience pain and unhappiness when they don't get it. It may seem like a childishness, but it is something else, I think, which is programmed into us as a species, which is an important way we communicate/connect. And there are real, perhaps not explicitly stated anywhere else social and societal consequences of this. I think the most brutal breakups, which are violent, are when the relationship was really based on a mutual escape into kink land. And then the other finds them doing the same with someone else... and how it was all then a lie. It's not bad to escape into kink land, just be intelligent about it.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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And it must be stated that the pleasure itself of adultery or betrayal is conditioned by the very fact of sex and love being combined in the spouse. The adulterer only betrays the person who can feel betrayed by their partner having sex with someone else. If the person cannot feel such a thing, then there is actually consequently no ability for the pleasure of what would lead to any 'betrayal' in the first place.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux] 1
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People can only open up to you as much as they've opened up to themselves, and most people don't seem to trust themselves enough to get to know themselves and see all the layers of their mind. Like shame, or anger, or fear, or judgement, certain things are chronically and habitually avoided by almost everyone it seems.
People need actually someone who can break past their 'defenses,' which are really structures of association, which act with a natural defense. Notice when people are in love... They fall in love. Something pierces through to them. The unfortunate thing is the sort of defenses people can acquire... And not be able to see around them or change them. You can see this in people who constantly repeat horrible relationships with different people. It is really annoying to watch. There is a playfulness in love, but if someone isn't playful, they are going to be hard to love, even if you can see their inner playfulness, for instance. That isn't enough, because only someone else may be able to provide elements that allow all of that to come out and restrengthen. Once this happens, a person may actually think back to people who had feelings for them but they previously didn't likewise have feelings for... and may have feelings about it.
I think this is part of why so many spiritual teachers have had sexual misconduct. When you learn to get comfortable letting down your defenses, which is a large part of spiritual practice, you then start to be able to help do this with others, and they can fall in love with you but its more like they are falling in love with their reflection as you as a mirror.
This is also why therapists need strong boundaries.
Taking advantage of someone in this situation is really harmful because they've let their defenses down.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
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I agree with all of that. People extend their playfulness as far as they extend their trust in the moment. Perhaps that's why things are sometimes "good in the beginning" because there were no personal level structural associations but rather a likable stranger who also conveniently knows almost nothing about them. In leu of causing trust issues it can still take a long time to develop it, mutually acknowledge it and enjoy it. Even in a best case scenario it can take more than a few months, or longer, to find that. It takes a long time to really get to know someone and people only trust what they know.
Bad drama seems better than no drama to some and in some curious manner of logic considering people trust what they know, bad drama can be more trusted than good drama.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz] 1
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Bad drama seems better than no drama to some and in some curious manner of logic considering people trust what they know, bad drama can be more trusted than good drama.
at a certain point I realized i was creating suffering in my life in lots of ways because my mind was conditioned in an environment of suffering, and there was familiarity in that. I would return to similar circumstances because I felt I knew how to navigate and protect myself in them, even though they were miserable.
It took a scary leap of faith to try new things, still does
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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Everything has a way it is properly expressed, even if in myriad ways.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
#28634879 - 01/25/24 07:06 PM (2 days, 27 minutes ago) |
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It is exactly time that people don't talk about when they talk about marriage. Sure, they may talk about "a lifetime," but do they talk about the actual lived time that they will encounter? Think of the person you have exchanged the most amount of words with. This is properly someone's spouse, how I see it. The time is what really makes it what it is. There comes a point... it is after months upon months of every moment together... Some people never experience this. My husband and I went 3 full years together every single day and night, never apart. This type of experience is... I'm not sure some people are ready for it. It is just like a psychedelic, really. Everyone goes into it all rainbows and giggles, and confetti... Then you get further and further... "Does this end? This is something unlike I could have ever imagined." I think you learn just as much about yourself as you do the other person. At least, if my experience is like what other people's experiences of marriage are like.
What is the difference between having shared 10,000 words and 2 million? Maybe more?
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Rahz]
#28634883 - 01/25/24 07:11 PM (2 days, 22 minutes ago) |
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How much can you know someone else? I'd say you could only ever know someone as much as is possible if they love you, and you them.
A good time for this quote
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He who knows nothing, loves nothing. He who can do nothing understands nothing. He who understands nothing is worthless. But he who understands also loves, notices, sees … The more knowledge is inherent in a thing, the greater the love.… Anyone who imagines that all fruits ripen at the same time as the strawberries knows nothing about grapes
Paracelsus
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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This is what my signature means
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Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est
The deepest and widest truths are to be loved, so therefore it's necessary: the greatest thing is to be loved (amanda est)
(Clearly sexual, but also metaphorically true, as the greatest artists love their craft, and the greatest mathematicians, etc. Etc)
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pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus
Drained it may be, we know it best when it fills us to a point, here with the high it moves lowest
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Res maxima omnis amor
Love is the greatest thing of all
An echo to Virgil's Omnia vincit amor, et nos cedamus amori
Potus sit is bene scimus can also mean "it may be a potion we know best" Sitis means "of thirst" "Potus sitis" would mean a draught of thirst ... we know best a draught of thirst, cum nos id adeo explet, when it supplies us thus (so much) Cum alto hic movet imus When this most profound moves in the deep rooted With the high the deepest moves here This lowest with the high moves deepest
The thirst for knowledge. You know something the most when it affects you the most.
Movet means 'it moves/stirs/affects' it also means 'agitates.'
Potus sitis bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet Drained of thirst we know it best when it fills us so much Potus sit is bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet It may be a potion, we know it best when it accomplishes, fulfills us... travels up and down to a certain point us

It means a number of things
That is why I keep it on my signature. Just saying.
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Of the deepest and widest truths They must eo ipso be loved, so therefore it's necessary: the greatest thing is to be loved. We know best something of a thirst when it fills us to such a point, this inmost with depth arouses: Love is the greatest thing of all
8 syllables per 8 lines
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-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Freedom]
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1 more thing. "Potus sitis bene scimus cum nos id adeo explet" Drained of thirst, we know it best when it (a drink) fills us to such a point This is inspired by Epicurus who says water for the very thirsty is more pleasurable than when one is mildly thirsty. Knowledge at its best is in the same way. And just as with relationships. The intensity of love is proportional to the need.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
Edited by Blue_Lux (01/25/24 08:44 PM)
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nooneman


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If stupidity is a form of assault, then this thread is a beatdown.
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redgreenvines
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: nooneman]
#28635201 - 01/26/24 04:04 AM (1 day, 15 hours ago) |
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in passing, as I am travelling marriage is an adventure and a construction project with potential pro-genitive functions and mutual support functions in our life cycles. many animals pair for life.
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many animals pair for life.
I love that - I truly want one (1) woman as my special soul/twin-flame potential partner. One that I devote most of my life to.
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Rahz
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Re: stupidity is a form of assault [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28635388 - 01/26/24 08:46 AM (1 day, 10 hours ago) |
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Blue_Lux said: It is exactly time that people don't talk about when they talk about marriage. Sure, they may talk about "a lifetime," but do they talk about the actual lived time that they will encounter? Think of the person you have exchanged the most amount of words with. This is properly someone's spouse, how I see it. The time is what really makes it what it is. There comes a point... it is after months upon months of every moment together... Some people never experience this. My husband and I went 3 full years together every single day and night, never apart. This type of experience is... I'm not sure some people are ready for it. It is just like a psychedelic, really. Everyone goes into it all rainbows and giggles, and confetti... Then you get further and further... "Does this end? This is something unlike I could have ever imagined." I think you learn just as much about yourself as you do the other person. At least, if my experience is like what other people's experiences of marriage are like.
What is the difference between having shared 10,000 words and 2 million? Maybe more?
Such things often don't happen in a mutual way. Being alone in one's vulnerability is one thing. Being hurt by one's object of affection in such a state is another, and that's where the boundaries are built.
The person I've loved the most, I felt the need to break things off with them. Sacrifice, compromise, understanding, patience, working on trust. At some point and it's not gradual the magic is gone. Love remains. It's not enough to carry on but it still holds value. Did I get manipulative? Was I progressively more needy? Did I get violent? Did I kill myself to spite her? Nope. I left her and that's what she needed. That's how she knows I actually love her, because I broke things off without being hurtful about it.
Another person I know is "prone to obsession". Doesn't want to be in love or have someone be in love with her. Was in love with a BF, got cheated on and took it very badly. Later she experienced a platonic obsession and was rejected by a friend. At that point she sought psychiatric help.
The first person I mentioned never had a chance. Her step-dad started molesting her when she was 3.
Lucky are those who fall in love and also love. Luckier are those who fall in love together and also love together.
-------------------- rahz comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace "You’re not looking close enough if you can only see yourself in people who look like you." —Ayishat Akanbi
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