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InvisibleShroomers420
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What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still be any?
    #28627859 - 01/19/24 09:46 PM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

Would there still be anything active in it? I've heard mescaline is really stable and long lasting without degrading.

So like, for instance same sort of example- if someone were to find a San Pedro that was all dried up and dead, for whatever reason, would the mescaline be destroyed?

The reason I ask is because my neighbor came over in a panic the other day because she forgot her cactus and lost a bunch of them and now they are just sort of doing what a cactus that got frozen and is now thawed does- turn mushy then brown before drying out.

Does anyone have experience with this? I am so sorry I don't' have access to post pictures so try to use your imagination. Thank anyone in advance with some fat kudos.:potleaf:


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Shroomers420] * 1
    #28628184 - 01/20/24 06:51 AM (8 days, 1 hour ago)

This is just a guess, but I would think the mesc would be fine.

My guys were outside last night and it got down to the upper 40s. With temps tonight going to be in the 30s, I'll definitely be bringing them in for that. Luckily they haven't experienced a frost yet, that would be sad.

How many and how big were the plants?


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #28628273 - 01/20/24 08:45 AM (7 days, 23 hours ago)

They were kind of small and maybe a couple dozen but it's a decent bit of plant material. They have now turned like a darker brown and are flopping over from the cold damage. I was able to take a few that died and get a cutting out of them that I think might take where the stem was still green.

Anyways- That's what I would think too, because it survives the freezer and boiling, but what about ROT-
I guess the real question here is if the cactus rots from the inside and dries and leaves a paper thin shell of the cactus left behind, will that contain any goodies?


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28628391 - 01/20/24 10:32 AM (7 days, 22 hours ago)

That blows!! It’s been in the teens for the lows here in Ga. I had to move mine inside. They handled mid 20’s okay in a green house, but I was told any lower would kill them so they are chilling in the house now till prob Wednesday. You could absolutely do an extraction to pull out crystalline mescaline, or maybe a tea if you boiled it long enough… but rot is bacteria eating away at the cactus. If it was mushy at all I would try and do a full blown extraction to salvage what I could without consuming the plant matter. Just my two cents tho.


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28628396 - 01/20/24 10:37 AM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Goodlife0209 said:
You could absolutely do an extraction to pull out crystalline mescaline, or maybe a tea if you boiled it long enough… but rot is bacteria eating away at the cactus. If it was mushy at all I would try and do a full blown extraction to salvage what I could without consuming the plant matter. Just my two cents tho.





Yeah this is sort of what I was thinking... But I think for me trying to get crystals right now is not on my agenda, so like, what if I used the Isopropyl Tek to turn it into a tar? Do you think that because of potential rot, that isopropyl alcohol might be a bad idea because I might get sick?

Yeah you are probably right, the only way to salvage it would be to extract it.

Can you still get Xylene easily at the hardware store?

What TEK do you recommend and can you possibly link the tek?>


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28628402 - 01/20/24 10:43 AM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

I suppose the iso tek would prob work too. But psychologically I would be thinking about it eating the tar lol. They sell xylene/xylol at the big box home improvement stores round here. I’ve heard you can use limonene too but isn’t as efficient, although it is food grade which makes it much easier and more pleasant to work with. I use xylene, but I had that already from refinishing a guitar I built and the finish used xylene as a thinners


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28628439 - 01/20/24 11:22 AM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

Exactly my thoughts about the tar, yeah.

And thanks for the info on the Xylene!


Well I think this settles it... She is either going to have to extract it or just toss them. Luckily she didn't lose all of them and had brought like 10 inside the week before the freeze.


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629664 - 01/21/24 09:56 AM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

Its an interesting question. Im gonna say "maybe" the mescaline is fine :strokebeard:

Definitely do an extract. Dont forget to remove the core but starting the chemical extract! Good luck to that neighbour.


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28631734 - 01/23/24 06:03 AM (5 days, 2 hours ago)

Did the liquid melt out of the cactus? If not then they're fine. Usually when they freeze the inside turns to snot and if the epidermis gets punctured then it will leak, and then your dirt will have a lot of mescaline in it


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Re: What if a San Pedro Cactus took frost damage, died, and then basically shriveled up and turned brown, would there still b... [Re: Mike4aco]
    #28631736 - 01/23/24 06:05 AM (5 days, 2 hours ago)

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I guess the real question here is if the cactus rots from the inside and dries and leaves a paper thin shell of the cactus left behind, will that contain any goodies?




If this happens, the paper thin layer is the waxy coating of the cactus which contains no mescaline, and all of the goodies have leaked out


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