Home | Community | Message Board

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Updated Enigma TEKs? * 1
    #28624672 - 01/17/24 02:50 PM (10 days, 16 hours ago)

I'm fascinated in Enigma and want to take a shot at it, but I'm having a hard time finding recent information about Enigma. Have cultivators just moved on from it?

I've got a pair of T1 dishes that I'll probably do at least one more transfer of, but I'm wondering about sub/spawn ratio. I've read that they need a bit more water, so I was thinking I would do agar to rye and then after colonized, do like a 3:1 coco/verm. Thoughts? Links to more info?



--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLewDoja
mad $cientist, ganjacologist
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/18/09
Posts: 974
Loc: A fictional tale, in fictional...
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon]
    #28625489 - 01/18/24 03:22 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

Not a clue -

But my gut says higher sub to spawn ratio.. like 1:3 bare minimum  grain:c(vg)


--------------------
a wise man said:
"Bad drugs tell you, that you want more;
  Good drugs tell you, that you've had enough"



      Trades pending:
if we have any pending trades or you never received anything that you were expecting send a PM with details.  I've had a lot going on, and may have overlooked something as well as USPS snafu's.


Edited by LewDoja (01/18/24 03:23 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebigfootscreepyuncl
Stranger


Registered: 11/15/20
Posts: 3,717
Loc: Gamehenge
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: LewDoja] * 1
    #28625521 - 01/18/24 05:05 AM (10 days, 2 hours ago)

This is directly from a TC on here who has a lot of experience with Enigma. I was recently picking his brain as well because I've got a nice plate grown out but hadn't thought much further than that lol.

I do know, however, that it is slower than molasses in an igloo. If I remember correctly he said it's like 2 months spawn to harvest, or something equally outrageous.



--------------------



I :heart: 5318008


NOT a virgin!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28625768 - 01/18/24 10:46 AM (9 days, 20 hours ago)

Quote:

bigfootscreepyuncl said:
This is directly from a TC on here who has a lot of experience with Enigma. I was recently picking his brain as well because I've got a nice plate grown out but hadn't thought much further than that lol.

I do know, however, that it is slower than molasses in an igloo. If I remember correctly he said it's like 2 months spawn to harvest, or something equally outrageous.





Oh interesting... that coco-only would make what? around 8qt? If so, that is < a 2:1


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebigfootscreepyuncl
Stranger


Registered: 11/15/20
Posts: 3,717
Loc: Gamehenge
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon]
    #28625804 - 01/18/24 11:10 AM (9 days, 20 hours ago)

Quote:

mycosispeon said:
Quote:

bigfootscreepyuncl said:
This is directly from a TC on here who has a lot of experience with Enigma. I was recently picking his brain as well because I've got a nice plate grown out but hadn't thought much further than that lol.

I do know, however, that it is slower than molasses in an igloo. If I remember correctly he said it's like 2 months spawn to harvest, or something equally outrageous.





Oh interesting... that coco-only would make what? around 8qt? If so, that is < a 2:1





According to Fahts recipe for a single quart of CV the 650g (dry) coir will make ~16 quarts of hydrated and expanded CV. In my experience I get less than 16 though, I think I typically get about 12 quarts from a single recipe. But, with that being said I don't ever take any time to fluff up my CV when I make tubs so it's likely packed and compressed when I'm scooping it out.

Even if we split the difference and call it 14 quarts of substrate that's nearly a 1:3.

So, after we worked through all that just run it like a normal cube apparently :lol:


--------------------



I :heart: 5318008


NOT a virgin!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28625861 - 01/18/24 12:07 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

Quote:

bigfootscreepyuncl said:
Quote:

mycosispeon said:
Quote:

bigfootscreepyuncl said:
This is directly from a TC on here who has a lot of experience with Enigma. I was recently picking his brain as well because I've got a nice plate grown out but hadn't thought much further than that lol.

I do know, however, that it is slower than molasses in an igloo. If I remember correctly he said it's like 2 months spawn to harvest, or something equally outrageous.





Oh interesting... that coco-only would make what? around 8qt? If so, that is < a 2:1





According to Fahts recipe for a single quart of CV the 650g (dry) coir will make ~16 quarts of hydrated and expanded CV. In my experience I get less than 16 though, I think I typically get about 12 quarts from a single recipe. But, with that being said I don't ever take any time to fluff up my CV when I make tubs so it's likely packed and compressed when I'm scooping it out.

Even if we split the difference and call it 14 quarts of substrate that's nearly a 1:3.

So, after we worked through all that just run it like a normal cube apparently :lol:



Interesting... the last time I prepared CV, I did a 650g brick, 2qt verm, 4.5qt water, and I came out with 8 quart jars of sub. Where did I go wrong?


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebigfootscreepyuncl
Stranger


Registered: 11/15/20
Posts: 3,717
Loc: Gamehenge
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon]
    #28626056 - 01/18/24 03:23 PM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

Quote:

mycosispeon said:Where did I go wrong?





I'm not even so sure you did go wrong. I think the brand and quality of coir makes a big difference. Conveniently, I need to prep some coir tonight so I will prep a double recipe per usual and measure it out for y'us.

I've had volume discrepancies in the past with other peoples recipes so I think there are a lot of variables.

To be completely honest though I just make a lot of CV at a time paying no attention to '1 brick for this tub' or anything. I make it all up ahead of time knowing what ratios I want to use, throw it in a tub with a gasket, seal it up and use it as needed. Prepped CV doesn't go bad. It may dry out a little bit but you can absolutely prep it ahead of time.

I'll report back with my volumes, but your mileage may vary.


--------------------



I :heart: 5318008


NOT a virgin!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28626064 - 01/18/24 03:35 PM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

Quote:

bigfootscreepyuncl said:
Quote:

mycosispeon said:Where did I go wrong?





I'm not even so sure you did go wrong. I think the brand and quality of coir makes a big difference. Conveniently, I need to prep some coir tonight so I will prep a double recipe per usual and measure it out for y'us.

I've had volume discrepancies in the past with other peoples recipes so I think there are a lot of variables.

To be completely honest though I just make a lot of CV at a time paying no attention to '1 brick for this tub' or anything. I make it all up ahead of time knowing what ratios I want to use, throw it in a tub with a gasket, seal it up and use it as needed. Prepped CV doesn't go bad. It may dry out a little bit but you can absolutely prep it ahead of time.

I'll report back with my volumes, but your mileage may vary.



Ok thanks. Let me know what you come out with


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebigfootscreepyuncl
Stranger


Registered: 11/15/20
Posts: 3,717
Loc: Gamehenge
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon]
    #28626142 - 01/18/24 04:32 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

Well, shit. It may be a little while before I report my volumes I just realized that I am out of vermiculite. I thought I had a little bit left.


edit: fuggit I'll just get some locally instead of ordering


--------------------



I :heart: 5318008


NOT a virgin!


Edited by bigfootscreepyuncl (01/18/24 04:44 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebigfootscreepyuncl
Stranger


Registered: 11/15/20
Posts: 3,717
Loc: Gamehenge
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28629817 - 01/21/24 12:59 PM (6 days, 18 hours ago)

Okie dokie that took a little longer than I thought but here we go:

1300g dry coir, 4 quarts vermiculite (more coarse than usual but it's all I could get locally, I'd consider it 'medium'), 2 gallons water*

From this doubled recipe I wound up with approximately 22 quarts of prepped CV. I think the coarse vermiculite holds more water than the the fine grade I usually use so I ended up having to add an extra 1.5qt water.


--------------------



I :heart: 5318008


NOT a virgin!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28630075 - 01/21/24 04:07 PM (6 days, 15 hours ago)

Ah ok. I guess you're estimate was right then. Maybe I used more fine verm or something. I'll plan on 1:3. It's going to be a while I think. The mycelium grows slower even on agar.


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCocaineBuffet
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/29/19
Posts: 3,455
Last seen: 7 hours, 25 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon] * 1
    #28630426 - 01/21/24 08:37 PM (6 days, 11 hours ago)

I have grown Enigma and TW2 and had no issues with using the same ratio of sub to spawn. I can't say I maximized the potential of the spawn but I did have plenty of fruit weight

This was a not yet mature TW2 tub


I wouldn't grow either again because it is a pain in the ass to harvest.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLogicaL ChaosM
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,310
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 1 hour, 19 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #28630572 - 01/22/24 12:33 AM (6 days, 7 hours ago)

:holyfuckdude:

Now thats a buffet!


--------------------
"What you must understand is that your physical dimension affects everyone in the higher dimensions as well. All things are interconnected. All things are One. Therefore, if one dimension is broken or out of balance, then all other dimensions will experience repercussions." - Pleiadian Prophecy 2020 The New Golden Age by James Carwin

PROJECT BLUE BOOK ANALYSIS! (312 pages!) | Psychedelics & UFOs | Ready to Contact UFOs? | The Source on Mushrooms:shroomeryhead:| Trippy Gematrix | Dj TeknoLogical | Fentanyl Test Kits R.I.P. Big Worm :tombstone: || The Start of the Ascension Process was 2020. Welcome to the Next Great Era of Earth 🌎🌍🌏                                                         
:sunny::bliss::mushroom2: Oregon Eclipse Festival 2017 :: Aug 19th - 21st :: Pure Paradise :mushroom2::bliss::sunny: :rainbowdrink: Very Effective LSA Extraction Tek :rainbowdrink: | 💧 Advanced Cold Water LSA Extraction Method 💧 | :cacti::bongload: Mescajuana - Mescaline with Marijuana | DMT Dab Bongs | UFO Technology! :shpongle:Shpongle:shpongle:   


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28630929 - 01/22/24 11:14 AM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

Holy shit dude!

Question though... how do you know when to harvest?


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon]
    #28630940 - 01/22/24 11:24 AM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

I will say though... gd is it slow growing mycelium. This is a dish of Enigma and a dish of Ghost done 4 days ago in the same session



--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCocaineBuffet
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/29/19
Posts: 3,455
Last seen: 7 hours, 25 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: mycosispeon] * 1
    #28631509 - 01/22/24 09:12 PM (5 days, 10 hours ago)

Quote:

mycosispeon said:
Holy shit dude!

Question though... how do you know when to harvest?




Usually the fruits will start to bruise/blue once they are at full maturity. There is one fin in the pic I shared that shows you what I mean if you enlarge it.

I would wait until around 60-70% of the fruits are expressing some bruising to harvest.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemycosispeon
Goofy's bastard child

Registered: 05/17/23
Posts: 77
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 hours, 37 minutes
Re: Updated Enigma TEKs? [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #28631531 - 01/22/24 09:46 PM (5 days, 9 hours ago)

ah ok i see what you mean. thanks!
:seriousthankyou:


--------------------
LAGM 2.024

- I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt :wink:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Updated PF Tek Guide
( 1 2 3 4 ... 40 41 )
Ziran 630,327 802 01/26/24 09:13 AM
by Cakewonder
* Updated Alien Tek substrate recipe? logical 3,900 1 08/05/02 06:22 PM
by logical
* New Tek is complete, What do you think?
( 1 2 3 all )
NewbieShroomer 24,554 47 05/15/23 07:15 PM
by johnukguy
* teks on one page? rico357 1,869 10 01/14/03 09:29 AM
by Roadkill
* Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek *DELETED*
( 1 2 3 all )
f8L 9,706 58 08/07/04 09:12 AM
by scatmanrav
* Flatcake Tek Update: Crumble Tek eatyualive 1,574 1 12/23/01 11:13 PM
by Olgualion
* Beef's Wheat tek
( 1 2 3 all )
BeefSupremeJr 2,840 48 01/21/24 04:51 PM
by arnold582
* Need updated literature on Monotubs,Spawn Ratios etc dovedescent7 81 3 01/23/24 01:41 AM
by Goatrider

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
275 topic views. 24 members, 181 guests and 40 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 12 queries.