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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#28630099 - 01/21/24 04:18 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago) |
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I meant that about the people who talk about "wokeness" as if it is a real thing. They really mean gay and black people.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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They do, but they mean much more than that. They believe that they are being attacked by a growing sector of the population. Fear is a bitch, and it makes people irrational.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#28630111 - 01/21/24 04:25 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago) |
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It is about gay and black people, put simply if you wish for an easy overview, because they are actually historically targeted groups. Other groups have faced persecution, but not in the same way, for the amount of time, and not to the same extent. These events over time have shaped the present, but people have to be more tricky about what they say now, because arguments have been made about racism and homophobia, but not about wokeness: now many seek refuge in a new concept; satisfy themselves with the fallacy of reification --- as it is likewise in so many places.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#28630125 - 01/21/24 04:31 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago) |
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Call it yet another fraudulent reinstatement of refuge in reification.
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No.
Wokeness is telling a 13 year old girl they can get their tits cut off because they "totes want to be a boy".
Then telling them they are a bad person when 10 years later they realized a mistake was made. Too late, no refunds.
That's just one crude example. But it works.
Wokeness in general is putting feelings and virtue signaling ideals before facts and logic. This is its fundamental underlying aspect.
The other problem is that wokeness is being pushed for purposes of totalitarianism. In a fully woke society, you would be arrested for things like misgendering someone. This is already happening to a degree in Europe. Thus it is easy to see where the agenda in this ideology lies.
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That isn't "wokeness." That is called flawed psychiatry.
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“Wokeness.” Is the great replacement theory fighting against progressive ideas. It’s this delusion that the world changing to not just be for white Anglo-Saxon males. Is the erosion of society itself, and must be fought against tooth and nail.
Every time you hear people complaining about woke-ism. They’re usually going to start talking about the border, trans rights, then they’re going to start talking about abortion. Because those people want to take away a lot of freedoms from a lot of people. To make themselves feel more powerful and in control.
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There is already a word for "virtue signaling" and "putting feelings before logic;" philosophy written forbye about it. That is called argumentum ad passiones, to the passions; and it usually has the connotation of grief or suffering. This is really just a natural derivative of arguments containing pathos, which is of the necessary three. Surely you know this. Too much logos results in logorrhea... Facts do not speak for themselves. There is a phrase as well from David Hume we should remind ourselves of. "Reason is a slave to the passions." And what more did he mean by that?.. Too much ethos results in absurdity and zealotry, and sanctimoniousness, and idealism.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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I will be the first to tell you how flawed psychology and psychiatry has become. I majored in it, and I once thought that was my life's calling. I studied very hard. This fact is politicized as "wokeness," because the real fact of the matter strikes at a deeper foundation... It is the foundation of capitalist medicine itself. Wokeness has been produced by this, because of the failure of the system to accommodate people's feelings about their conditions. It is what has become to represent those who are not economically ideal, exactly those who are not religious and who question the system that has been built upon the premise of an essentially hypnotized, rigorously controlled populace. This has always been the point of religion; they must control homosexuality and all kinds of feelings people have (including depression resulting from their intolerable economic conditions) in order to implement the control. The situation about trans people is mostly affecting gay and bisexual people, because gay people far outnumber trans people. This is the whole point of it being targeted, because it lends credulity to the control of sexuality, and laws that can concomitantly target anything not heterosexual. It is the same slippery slope fallacy, just inverted. They don't actually want to change anything about psychiatry. They want to delete what doesn't fit into it, exactly what it has produced. Just like parents who throw their gay kid out or force them to undergo conversion 'treatment.'
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You are dealing with pure evil if you want to know what is really going on.
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There is a correct interplay of logos, pathos, and ethos; and that is what causes the actual progression of any philosophy, or politics.
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And having a correct interplay of logos, pathos, and ethos is adulterated by what I call Platonic epistemology. It is really retarded by it.
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I just want to know why nobody is doing anything about all these red pills everybody is talking about. What's in them? Are they giving them to children? is it some kind of daterape drug?
Is it fentanyl? I bet it's fentanyl! FENTANYL AND ADRENOCHROME!!!
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#28630511 - 01/21/24 10:14 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago) |
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Are you one of those people that has their mods taken down off of Nexus all the time?

“ We reserve the right to host, or not host, whatever content we want on our own site. We do not want to host mods that remove diversity from a video game. If that upsets you enough that you no longer want to use our site then, quite frankly, your presence here will not be missed. l invite you to use your account settings page's "Delete account" feature. Have a great day.” Mike - Nexus Mods Support
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Quote:
The Ecstatic said: People like this have to believe that any other global paradigm would be worse, that way they can justify the current state of affairs as the best possible scenario.
America bad? Welp China would be worse.
Biden bad? Welp Trump would be worse.
Gaza being genocided? Welp the Muslims would do worse.
Just live your entire life through the prism of unfalsifiable counterfactuals.
I understand where you're coming from, but how many governments have we seen get toppled and replaced by something that's actually better?
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Define: better. They are usually slightly different.
Strong borders, anti-abortion, and anti-trans rhetoric is how the Nazis took power. Of course the modern MAGAs are doing the same thing.
Edit: it is interesting that virtually any authoritarian movement features heavy control of reproductive rights. Stalin cracked down on the relatively free love established by Lenin, Hitler cracked down on any sexual liberties in Germany, the church famously controls marriage...
There's probably some interesting psychology behind that. Very Freudian.
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Quote:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
Quote:
The Ecstatic said: People like this have to believe that any other global paradigm would be worse, that way they can justify the current state of affairs as the best possible scenario.
America bad? Welp China would be worse.
Biden bad? Welp Trump would be worse.
Gaza being genocided? Welp the Muslims would do worse.
Just live your entire life through the prism of unfalsifiable counterfactuals.
I understand where you're coming from, but how many governments have we seen get toppled and replaced by something that's actually better?
Do you mean from western backed regime change?
Rarely if ever.
If you mean on the timeline of global hegemon, I’d say it’s a pretty gradual change for the better, but it’s tough to compare how the state of global affairs when the Dutch had power versus the British versus the USA.
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