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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. * 1
    #28630247 - 01/21/24 05:54 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)




tl;dr - the universe is deterministic. plan b never was an option.

Feel free to discuss.


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Re: A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28630629 - 01/22/24 03:12 AM (6 days, 10 hours ago)

Its a problem that needs to solve itself


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Re: A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28630745 - 01/22/24 07:58 AM (6 days, 5 hours ago)

we might not be able to help placing bets.


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Re: A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28630923 - 01/22/24 11:09 AM (6 days, 2 hours ago)

causality is hard to break.


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Re: A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. [Re: nooneman]
    #28631958 - 01/23/24 10:08 AM (5 days, 3 hours ago)

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Thing is though, quantum mechanics.

The positions of electrons while in orbit around a nucleus are random, not deterministic.





Thing is though, "random" quantum fluctuations were extensively discussed in the video and taken in the equation.

You didnt watch it :naughty:


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Re: A scientifically informed opinion on why free will doesn't exist. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28631965 - 01/23/24 10:13 AM (5 days, 3 hours ago)

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when we say random

what we mean is we do not understand fully how and why the positions are what they are, but we can be statistically accommodating about it and we get away with saying it is non-deterministic. (in a way that we understand)

I side with Einstein, determinism holds but we have not grasped the matter fully yet.





That what identifies as God says that the deterministic "block universe" holds true, but those random fluctuations are subject to his will and he uses those to carve universes out of the void of all things, roads for us to follow.

Every seeming empty space holds the totality of everything, but its carved away by the ripple of time we are riding that makes it seem empty. Its solid black hole.


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