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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: Pscientist]
    #28626297 - 01/18/24 06:05 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

Lol close minded have you ever used one?

They destroy plastic and tent materials they destroy everything but glass and even oxidize metals horribly except maybe stainless steel.

I have used them in the past and they scare me with how destructive they can be. Silicone is meant to last 50 years in the sun outside. Didn't last 6 months in a gallon jar sealing some uv-c lights around the lid for a fish tank parasite killer.

Do you have any experience with them?

I do

They destroy everything and are dangerous.

I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough to use uv-c for mushrooms if there is a use at all.

Wtf happened to common sense?


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob]
    #28626303 - 01/18/24 06:10 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

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HelloImBob said:
Lol close minded have you ever used one?

They destroy plastic and tent materials they destroy everything but glass and even oxidize metals horribly except maybe stainless steel.

I have used them in the past and they scare me with how destructive they can be. Silicone is meant to last 50 years in the sun outside. Didn't last 6 months in a gallon jar sealing some uv-c lights around the lid for a fish tank parasite killer.

Do you have any experience with them?

I do

They destroy everything and are dangerous.

I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough to use uv-c for mushrooms if there is a use at all.

Wtf happened to common sense?





Ok Bob, stay scared :bobbyhill:


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: Pscientist] * 1
    #28626307 - 01/18/24 06:14 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

Lol says the blind guy with DNA damage who likes to play with uv-c

Way to dodge the question if you have experience with them.

If you had experience you would know they destroy plastic and just about everything else.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob]
    #28626320 - 01/18/24 06:21 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

UV does make plastic brittle with prolonged exposure.

If you turned a UV light on in a tent for 10 minutes twice a month it would do very little damage and still last quite a long time.


Keep trying though bob :bobbyhill:


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: Pscientist]
    #28626346 - 01/18/24 06:35 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

Lol you have no clue because you haven't used them before.

Yes I am smart enough to be afraid of some things, just like being afraid of fire to some extent. Even in a nomex fire suit you can still die of heat even if you don't burn up.

Other things like nitroglycerin scare me too, obliviously if you handle it correctly and keep it cold it shouldn't blow up on you.

I'm not invincible if I make a mistake with uv-c I could cause permanent eye damage or DNA damage, lung damage ect...

I use uv-c for other purposes and I make sure to have switches in other rooms or extension cords away from exposure.

It not only makes plastic brittle it turns it black.

Maybe I should make some examples one day with a CCTV camera recording uv-c vs plastic, I just need another DVR first.

You sound really dumb like you like to play with fire.

Fire has it's uses but can get out of hand really easy just like this thread.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: Pscientist]
    #28626356 - 01/18/24 06:40 PM (9 days, 20 hours ago)

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Ok Bob, stay scared :bobbyhill:




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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: Pscientist]
    #28626368 - 01/18/24 06:51 PM (9 days, 20 hours ago)

Lol get some experience playing around with uv-c then come back and talk.

Stupid people act like it's not smart to be afraid of some things then usually end up missing limbs or dead.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob] * 1
    #28626418 - 01/18/24 07:46 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

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Lol you have no clue because you haven't used them before.





I have, Bob.  By overstating your case, you reduce your credibility on your valid points. 

UVC is dangerous. That's the freaking point.  UVC demonstrably kills certain pathogens interesting to us, notably trichoderma spores.  That's also the freaking point.  I can still see, I don't have three eyes, my tubs have not degraded into dust.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: OldManRiver]
    #28626432 - 01/18/24 08:02 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

Overstating my case? DNA damage is known as what cancer?

Tell me how it's useful below the surface?

It works great in clear water or clean air.

By all means I'm done with this thread. I hope you all play with uv-c I don't give a shit anymore.

This has by far got to be the stupidest thread I've ever wasted my time on.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob]
    #28626440 - 01/18/24 08:15 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)



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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob] * 1
    #28626483 - 01/18/24 08:57 PM (9 days, 18 hours ago)

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Overstating my case? DNA damage is known as what cancer?

Tell me how it's useful below the surface?

It works great in clear water or clean air.

By all means I'm done with this thread. I hope you all play with uv-c I don't give a shit anymore.

This has by far got to be the stupidest thread I've ever wasted my time on.





It's ok to be scared of UV bob, don't use it.

Other adults may choose to learn the dangers of UV and how to use it safely.

It doesn't change your life. At the same time, there is no reason to shoot down the discussion.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HelloImBob] * 1
    #28626682 - 01/19/24 02:22 AM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

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HelloImBob said:
Overstating my case? DNA damage is known as what cancer?

Tell me how it's useful below the surface?

It works great in clear water or clean air.

By all means I'm done with this thread. I hope you all play with uv-c I don't give a shit anymore.

This has by far got to be the stupidest thread I've ever wasted my time on.




First of all i wanna say that i´m absolutely with you.

But discussions like that lead into nothingness.
I formerly had to learn it the hard way in a thread,
when a guy (a vendor) advised to add peroxide to their misting bottle regularly.
The rage began, finally our big admin needed to jump in,
and even strengthened this guys back quite a bit.
For a moment i thought about setting up a password
i wouldn´t remember, and better leave this place.

But stories like that will always happen.
It´s human.
I don´t care anymore.

Let´s be proud we´re able to produce great yields
without UV or H2O2, that´s real cultivation.

Folks, just make clean spawn and start work.

Otherwise just do what y`all want,
as said i don´t care,
just wanted to place my statement.

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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: HappinessStan]
    #28627807 - 01/19/24 09:15 PM (8 days, 18 hours ago)

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I used to work in aquatics, some dude came in and asked for a uvc light for his aquarium, my boss assumed he meant a uvc light for his uv steriliser (a contained water filter that kills pathogens and parasites with uvc light). Turned out he meant a uv light for his saltwater tank.
Plugged it in, worked fine, so he started working on cleaning out his tank. Ended up with 3rd degree burns all over his face and arms after less than an hour.
Luckily, he realised it was his fault for not specifying which bulb he needed. That could've ended in a very heavy lawsuit.
Tldr; don't fuck about with uvc.





sounds made up... different plugs, sizes etc.  lesson, dont listen to guys who smell like fish....prone to make things up :wink:


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: the man] * 1
    #28628896 - 01/20/24 05:15 PM (7 days, 22 hours ago)

Bob, spare us the straw man arguments.  You might inquire as to how people are using the UVC light, before telling us that we're all going to die. 

Nobody is arguing that UVC penetrates and kills stuff below a surface.  Nobody is recommending having them on when you are in the room.  Nobody is recommending leaving them on all the time. 

I use them to knock back trich spores in the air and on surfaces.  I run them in my room for 30 min just before I do bulk spawn operations, in conjunction with other standard sanitization measures. I'll run them after I do a periodic room clean, after vacuuming, as the dust settles in the room.  I turn them on and off from outside the room, behind a closed door. Used this way, there is no risk to the grower.  Whether there is benefit is up for discussion, but it's straightforward to use them safely.  They are proven to kill mold spores and bacteria on surfaces and in air. 

Since I have added them to my routine, I have seen my trich infestations plummet.  I have seen no degradation of tubs or other materials in the room.  Cultures in petri dishes and tubs are unaffected, as any amount of plastic blocks UV light quite well. 

Your stridency and refusal to engage in productive inquiry just makes me plan to skip by your posts.  If you want to be listened to, you're going to have to mature your style, my friend.


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Re: Anyone use UV-C for sterilization? [Re: nickchinn]
    #28629509 - 01/20/24 05:15 PM (7 days, 22 hours ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
I'm gonna keep this short. If you want to play around with potentially dangerous equipment to perform a function not needed to successfully grow at any scale, don't expect the community here to endorse it. Can UV work for the purpose outlined here? Sure. Is it a risk to people to do this? Absolutely. Is it necessary? Hard no. This place is about harm reduction. I've grown more pounds of mushrooms than I can count. Never once needed UV. You want to talk about potentially harmful measures not needed to cultivate at a high level? Then do it somewhere else.


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