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What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this possible?
    #28628800 - 01/20/24 04:25 PM (7 days, 16 hours ago)

Why do you take mescaline? Is it for fun mostly like acid? Or is it like shrooms?

Is mescaline something like a 3+ gram shroom trip where you most definitely can't go about your day as normal?

Or can you take a lower dose of Mescaline and still function fine?

For instance, I used to work with a guy who would take like 100UG of acid and be able to drive and work and deal with customers like he was normal. Some days he would be on like a gram or so of shrooms and completely normal, but he was lightly tripping.

I want to try mescaline for the first time and am just trying to figure out what kind of drug it is.

ALSO- this would be most likely be extract mesc salts, and not cactus tea.

Anyone have some advice for a massive NOOB?

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28628937 - 01/20/24 05:45 PM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

I find it closer to lsd than shrooms. Doesn’t mess with your cognitive abilities like shrooms do. Take that with a grain of salt as I have only done smaller doses. Got my first big one coming up in three weeks so I can post a report then. I can say for  microdosing it’s freaking amazing. A little too stimulating if you get stuck between micro and full dose tho. It also has an amazing synergy with weed, and really good aphrodisiac effects.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28628942 - 01/20/24 05:46 PM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

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I used to work with a guy who would take like 100UG of acid and be able to drive and work and deal with customers like he was normal.


:hmm: Well if so, I'm impressed.


I would suggest... don't take the low dose. Take a mid to high dose, plan to be in a safe space as long as you need to without having to interact with anyone "normally." Give yourself the option to go outside and explore if you choose to. Just don't put yourself in a position where you HAVE to try to interact with society.

Get to know the substance, become friends with it, see how you react to it. Everyone is different. It's a wonderful substance and you will appreciate it if you treat it right, it's very beautiful. Strong RAINBOW energy. Strong sense of the currents of LIFE that flow through and around us. Connected to the EARTH but stood over by strong GRANDFATHER energy.

Many people have a great sense of spontaneity while on Mescaline. Like they are being guided into beautiful synchronicities. Yes I know this is common to all psychedelics. But it's much more of an ebb and flow trip than LSD is (which IME is more of a "straight ahead we go!" trip).


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28628964 - 01/20/24 05:57 PM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Wow great reply and description, you have me very much looking forward to my next trip!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629041 - 01/20/24 06:41 PM (7 days, 13 hours ago)

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Goodlife0209 said:
I find it closer to lsd than shrooms. Doesn’t mess with your cognitive abilities like shrooms do. Take that with a grain of salt as I have only done smaller doses. Got my first big one coming up in three weeks so I can post a report then. I can say for  microdosing it’s freaking amazing. A little too stimulating if you get stuck between micro and full dose tho. It also has an amazing synergy with weed, and really good aphrodisiac effects.






Amazing. This is the type of info I was looking for! Without giving dosage advice, would you care to share what is the form or manner that you micro dose in? Like a small cup of tea, tar, or extracted salts. I would think extracts would be the only way to accurately dose?
Thank you so much!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28629046 - 01/20/24 06:44 PM (7 days, 13 hours ago)

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I would suggest... don't take the low dose. Take a mid to high dose, plan to be in a safe space as long as you need to without having to interact with anyone "normally." Give yourself the option to go outside and explore if you choose to. Just don't put yourself in a position where you HAVE to try to interact with society.

Get to know the substance, become friends with it, see how you react to it. Everyone is different. It's a wonderful substance and you will appreciate it if you treat it right, it's very beautiful. Strong RAINBOW energy. Strong sense of the currents of LIFE that flow through and around us. Connected to the EARTH but stood over by strong GRANDFATHER energy.

Many people have a great sense of spontaneity while on Mescaline. Like they are being guided into beautiful synchronicities. Yes I know this is common to all psychedelics. But it's much more of an ebb and flow trip than LSD is (which IME is more of a "straight ahead we go!" trip).





This is amazing too! Thank you! The thing you described about how is spontaneously guides you into beautiful synchronicities? That gave me chills. wow. Way to go. that's so awesome, and I completely believe that's true.

I love the way you describe the energy as rainbow and energy. amazing.

I also appreciate your description of how it differs from LSD!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629085 - 01/20/24 07:10 PM (7 days, 13 hours ago)

Well for a while we were just eating small sections of the inner flesh.  Really just wanted to see what it tasted like. The effects from a pretty small piece of Bridgesii aren’t noticeable at first. Just more alert and awake. Thinking is super clear. Smoking weed just makes it better, don’t get the munchies or tired. And the sex is amazing. Crazy thing is the next day I have this really clear focus and energy. Like a reverse hangover. The dosage to get that may be different for you. Too much and it’s like having too much coffee. Too little you won’t notice. We eventually started drying it out and packing into pills. Gonna have the HCL soon so I will let ya know what that’s like.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629141 - 01/20/24 08:05 PM (7 days, 12 hours ago)

Isn't HCL just muriatic acid that they sell at the hardware store for $12?

Also, that's neat about the taking a small chunk and getting those effects. I'm guessing bridgessi is more potent than san pedro for you to feel that on such a small ammount? Or, are they close?

The reason I ask, is because you mentioned doing the powder in pills- was that for more accurate dosing, or just ease of dosing( as in, were you measuring how much powder?)


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629159 - 01/20/24 08:20 PM (7 days, 12 hours ago)

Yeah sorry I meant mescaline hcl. Yeah it seems like Bridgesii is consistently more potent. I haven’t had a small amount like that of San Pedro to compare tho. What’s nuts to me is at that amount you can’t really feel anything I would call buzzed, so much as you notice the obvious difference in energy, positivity and what I feel if a kinda smooth clear mindset. Like I mentioned increases sex drive in an obvious way. Does the same for my wife.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629169 - 01/20/24 08:25 PM (7 days, 12 hours ago)

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What’s nuts to me is at that amount you can’t really feel anything I would call buzzed, so much as you notice the obvious difference in energy, positivity and what I feel if a kinda smooth clear mindset. Like I mentioned increases sex drive in an obvious way. Does the same for my wife.





This is an amazing testimonial and what's interesting is I had one other person mention that to me, like 15 years ago, and didn't recall until now. They ate just a little bit and weren't "buzzed" like you said, but felt similar things liek you said.

So- doing it this way, do you do it on your days off, when you don't have to do anything? Or have you ever tried it on just on a normal day, working , cooking, driving, etc and then everything has that undertone of energy you described?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629244 - 01/20/24 09:31 PM (7 days, 11 hours ago)

Typically take it on the weekend, but I prefer Sundays as it seems to make Mondays much better. If I take it a second day it’s usually cuz I didn’t have to work or got off early enough. Will keep you up for a bit. I find if I take it by like 1 pm latest I can get to bed at a reasonable hour. I think you would be fine to do must anything at the doses I take. Driving, working and cooking would be the same, just with that undertone you mentioned. However, I tend to do it on days I can smoke cannabis all day. They go together well and if anything it removes the brain fog I get from cannabis and doesn’t let me get sleepy. This is just our experience, I encourage you to find out for yourself if you have access to it.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629458 - 01/21/24 06:27 AM (7 days, 2 hours ago)

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We eventually started drying it out and packing into pills.




do you know the weight of your dose?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: golmo]
    #28629465 - 01/21/24 06:41 AM (7 days, 1 hour ago)

Between .4-.7g dried powder of the dark  green flesh.  I like .6 cuz you can just barely sense something, but it’s working pretty good at that dose to raise my energy and mood. Helps with focus too but I feel that more the next day for some reason. Doesn’t make much sense but I’ve done it like 20+ times and it’s been like that pretty much every time for me and the wife. I have noticed muscle tension in my neck and shoulder the times I took .7 twice in a week. Not enough to really complain about, but wanted to be as transparent as I can.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629485 - 01/21/24 07:22 AM (7 days, 1 hour ago)

oh you micro dose...
do you macro dose sometimes? if so, how much?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: golmo]
    #28629517 - 01/21/24 08:03 AM (7 days, 32 minutes ago)

Honestly haven’t taken a whole dose yet.  Have my first full cactus trip coming in the middle of February. Gonna post a trip report about it and will be my first one on here so I can let ya know then. I’ve done a ton of research on here and many people say it’s their favorite psychedelic. I only started microdosing to see what it would be like and it blows shrooms out of the water benefit wise. Haven’t tried lsd microdosing so not sure about that. I would like to think a full dose of mescaline would be even more therapeutic cuz I hear people saying that can still feel the cactus working on them for weeks afterward. I suppose I’ll let y’all know soon:-)


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629533 - 01/21/24 08:17 AM (7 days, 18 minutes ago)

^ Yes that day-after boost you get from the microdose, is one of the after-effects I get from a macro dose except it lasts for weeks afterward. Just an enhanced sense of power and energy, or "fortitude" might be a good word for it. As well as enhanced empathy for others and investment in community.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28629586 - 01/21/24 09:02 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

I only ate 100grams of San Pedro powder.

There was no doing anything normally. Half of it was me thinking this shit isn’t doing anything what a waste… other half was realizing I’m tripping balls. The peak was intense as hell. I was passionately convincing 2 of these awesome trees how beautiful they still are despite being stripped bare due to winter… that’s when the peak was happening. Had to lay in bed shortly after this.

And I didn’t want to do anything the next day. Almost nothing the second day as well. Be patient it takes its sweet ass time.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28629602 - 01/21/24 09:10 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

100grams could potentially be like 1.5-2 grams mescaline if it was just the outer flesh. Depending on the potency of course. Most of the extractions using 100  grams  as a starting point pull about 1.5g from what I’ve gathered.  That’s a staggering dose. Even if the cactus wasn’t that strong I bet it would still be a significant dose.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629613 - 01/21/24 09:16 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

I was more scared of being let down than hit too hard from what I’d read. I started with 50grams and 2 hrs later I had most of the remaining 50grams. 2hrs after that I was talking to trees.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28629627 - 01/21/24 09:23 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

Yeah I just read your trip report, sounded intense at times. At least you know for sure your source of San Pedro is legit!  Do you think the weed helped kick it in and you just took a lot of Pedro? Or do you think it was a combo of the two together that was the issue. I’ve heard others say they have a synergy and kicks the visuals into higher gear.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA] * 1
    #28629630 - 01/21/24 09:25 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

I will say it was good though. I’m dealing with demons and figuring things out. Nothing tragic or anything just those demons that make us lash out and yell or break shit or whatever one might do. I get very cold and self destruct.

Figuring out what I really truly want. Trying to be happy first and foremost. Figuring out what my demons actually are and what’s the message as it’s more like a lifetime of piling vs a single event messing with me that is easily pointed at. War/violence, rape, abuse, etc…

It was rough I got drug through the mud. But it was good. As I laid in bed I smiled  and thanked Mr San Pedro for the journey. I did have a grand father feel and wondered if that was shared. It was cool to see it mentioned here as mushrooms feel feminine to me. I laughed laying in bed as it calmed down and said I did challenge you and you did deliver…. Thank you….. hopefully we’re done now but if not I get it haha I remember I really wanted to add that part and make it clear lol


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629635 - 01/21/24 09:27 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

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Yeah I just read your trip report, sounded intense at times. At least you know for sure your source of San Pedro is legit!  Do you think the weed helped kick it in and you just took a lot of Pedro? Or do you think it was a combo of the two together that was the issue. I’ve heard others say they have a synergy and kicks the visuals into higher gear.




I’m totally assuming but I do feel it was both. Legit San Pedro at a high dose with some good and strong weed on top. I was hitting that joint left and right trying to make something happen.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28629684 - 01/21/24 10:11 AM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

I totally get that. I know a lot of people have had terrible things happen to them, but I feel like the stuff I stockpile inside led to me doing more damage to myself than anyone else did. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve been dealt a challenging hand, and I struggle sometimes to be the rock everyone needs me to be. I work non stop, have two kids, one of which is special needs and it is always challenging. Still, when I really look at it. All the things I’m unhappy or stressed about are in my head. Part of my subjective experience. I suffer cuz I want things to be different than they are. That’s prob just me tho. Sometimes just gotta let that shit out lol.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629777 - 01/21/24 12:00 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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Between .4-.7g dried powder of the dark  green flesh.  I like .6 cuz you can just barely sense something, but it’s working pretty good at that dose to raise my energy and mood. Helps with focus too but I feel that more the next day for some reason. Doesn’t make much sense but I’ve done it like 20+ times and it’s been like that pretty much every time for me and the wife. I have noticed muscle tension in my neck and shoulder the times I took .7 twice in a week. Not enough to really complain about, but wanted to be as transparent as I can.





This is great info for her. So you might assume that possibly San pedro might be like a gram of powder for a micro dose?
Once again, thanks for this first hand information!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28629778 - 01/21/24 12:02 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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^ Yes that day-after boost you get from the microdose, is one of the after-effects I get from a macro dose except it lasts for weeks afterward. Just an enhanced sense of power and energy, or "fortitude" might be a good word for it. As well as enhanced empathy for others and investment in community.




Wow- so Mecaline is sort of similar to Ketamine that can have weeks of benefits?

I say that only because the "after glow" and benefits of mushrooms seem to wear off much faster. Sometimes within days, but certainly never weeks.

What about you all?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629779 - 01/21/24 12:03 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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I only ate 100grams of San Pedro powder.

There was no doing anything normally. Half of it was me thinking this shit isn’t doing anything what a waste… other half was realizing I’m tripping balls. The peak was intense as hell. I was passionately convincing 2 of these awesome trees how beautiful they still are despite being stripped bare due to winter… that’s when the peak was happening. Had to lay in bed shortly after this.

And I didn’t want to do anything the next day. Almost nothing the second day as well. Be patient it takes its sweet ass time.




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100grams could potentially be like 1.5-2 grams mescaline if it was just the outer flesh. Depending on the potency of course. Most of the extractions using 100  grams  as a starting point pull about 1.5g from what I’ve gathered.  That’s a staggering dose. Even if the cactus wasn’t that strong I bet it would still be a significant dose.




:ohsnap: Oh wow that's a heavy dose right?
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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420] * 1
    #28629788 - 01/21/24 12:12 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

1 gram seems reasonable for San Pedro.  I use Bridgesii which is more consistently potent. It also has a more stimulating buzz than San Pedro . I usually age them in a closet or drawer for a couple of months first. Seems to make them more potent. But that sounds about right. Someone recently told me that 50mgs mescaline hcl is a microdose. You could use the math I guess to estimate, but I would just kinda feel it out.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629793 - 01/21/24 12:26 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

Mescaline is like a candy flip from Nature. Its a beautiful experience.

If you havent experience MescaJuana, you are missing out my friend! :happyweed:

Im going to do another San Pedro methanol extract this Summer. I am quite excited!


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    #28629801 - 01/21/24 12:40 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

Have you had the crystal extract and compared it to a methanol/iso kind of extract? I’m wondering if it’s worth all this damn effort to do a full extraction. I wanted to get an accurate dose since I don’t get to do it often and didn’t want a lack luster experience. That and I figured it would be cleaner and less body high that way. But making a tea is looking more and more appealing lol.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629823 - 01/21/24 01:05 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

I have yet to try a crystalline extract. Someday....:sadyes:


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629836 - 01/21/24 01:13 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

If you wanna try a methanol extract, I just wrote-up a simple tek showing the process: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28629835#28629835


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28629878 - 01/21/24 01:52 PM (6 days, 18 hours ago)

what if someone doesn't remove the core, is the whole recipe you posted no longer good?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629909 - 01/21/24 02:13 PM (6 days, 18 hours ago)

It will be fine. There is prob some alkaloids in the core too. Just more matter to filter. There may be alkaloids in the core that add to the body high… but it won’t ruin the recipe.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629975 - 01/21/24 02:56 PM (6 days, 17 hours ago)

Quote:

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what if someone doesn't remove the core, is the whole recipe you posted no longer good?





Trust me, you MUST remove the core before extracting!!!!! No expectations! Most of the toxins are inside the core so removing the core is CRITICAL to having an good, enjoyable experience.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28630741 - 01/22/24 07:53 AM (6 days, 42 minutes ago)

i have a Bridgesii and a pachanoi growing. i've never personally processed a cactus into tea or powder or anything. i've also not had mesculine for i dunno, like 30 years now.

how are you making your powder? are you literally just slicing the cactus, drying it and powdering with an herb grinder? is there any other steps involved in your process? if it is just straight up dried and powdered, does it cause nausea or puking?

curious as i'll probably process for the first time this spring or summer. my pedro will be around 3ft by then so figure i sould be able to dry powder, and tea...have a reall good dose, and also make cutting to grow more.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28630758 - 01/22/24 08:18 AM (6 days, 18 minutes ago)

You can dry it but if you’re working directly with the cactus you don’t have to. You can just put it in a blender and go from there. Nausea depends on the person from everything I’ve seen. I was fine eating 100grams just got extremely bloated.

I’ve heard diet helps. I’ve heard if you’re eating processed foods you have a higher chance of getting nausea with psychedelics. I almost never eat processed foods but not sure if it’s at all true.

When I ate mushrooms at a young age I had to fight puking with everything I had and I ate almost nothing other than processed foods.


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    #28630777 - 01/22/24 08:35 AM (6 days, 56 seconds ago)

yeah i've never puked or felt nauseated from cubes. i've pushed LSA/H/I pretty high and never puked. and enjoy amanita often without ever puking.

from what i've read removing the core and getting to it is an easy way to go. i'm not sure if i'll try to tea or extract or not as i've also heard there are other alkaloids in the actual cactus that aid the experience versus trying to extract and get to pure mescaline


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    #28630798 - 01/22/24 08:50 AM (5 days, 23 hours ago)

there's some great conversation through this thread outside of the actual mechanics of cacti ingestion.

and like the others have mentioned, i too am facing demons but no one trauma. just the compilation of childhood scars left by a way toooo conservative evangelical upbringing combined with everything that happens in life.

personally i subscribe to the Buddhist philosophy that life is suffering. i think that so many of us become victims of the social construct that tells us we're supposed to be happy all the time and get what we want. it's a lie. understanding that suffering is constant allows us to realize the moments when we're not, and to fully appreciate them. i think this is why so much of the population fights depression. people think they're supposed to be always happy and that's just not reality.

i recently saw a comparison of 1984 to brave new world that i really liked. saying that Orwells observations were past and current, government controlled the masses by imposing scarcity. where as Huxley accurately predicted the future. goverment controls the massed by inflicting pleasure. that pleasure is the impossible constant happy to prevent us from seeing the suffering that's actually all around us.

sorry this is off from just mescalilne, but since i ended on Huxley... lol.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28630841 - 01/22/24 09:47 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

Hmm interesting, I wonder how Huxley’s book Island would compare - maybe the residents of this utopian Island, while they do seem wise and in harmony, are themselves out of touch with suffering, and this is brought home by the end of the book - the inevitability of the oil company coming to exploit them and their land.

I do appreciate the “ordeal” aspect of psychedelics, I feel much stronger psychologically (and physically) as a result of the psychedelic struggle.


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    #28630867 - 01/22/24 10:17 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

I found Mescaline, in the form of peyote buttons and once in a capsule called chocolate mesc, to be much smoother in feel and transition (the come up - other than puking) than either LSD or mushrooms. The visuals were less electric/neon than LSD, and not sloppy like psilocybin. On a higher dose of shrooms, I feel a surge as I approach the next wave of the peak, a feeling like being shot into somewhere that may or may not be scary. Mescaline was much more natural of a feeling, and the visuals were just as intense as LSD. I found less anxiety than either psilocybin or LSD. In my day, the 70's, alot of weak LSD was sold as mescaline in the form of microdots - TINY little purple tablets. Waaaay past high school now, I am not among people who sell these things, so I would have easiest access by growing mushrooms. so I have not had LSD or mescaline in decades. Got some paper at a festival once, but it was obviously a research chemical.

That being said, it might be different for others, but if I took 100 micrograms of LSD every day, the tolerance would be obvious and the effect much much less pronounced after a day or two. My experience has been that psychedelic doses of any of these, repeated too often without time in between doses can be counterproductive and the trip itself repetitive. You can end up very adept at tripping and paying less attention to the rest of your life. Also, I have to differ when you describe LSD as beng more recreational. At small doses it can be, just like psilocybin. But you get to the same spiritual/philosophical places and LSD's potential in terms of psychological development and awareness as you would with shrooms.

In terms of accessibility, I think LSD is the easiest to procure and to ingest, followed by mushrooms and then mescaline. So much easier to put a piece of paper on your tongue than to eat shrooms or make tea. The ease of use may be a factor in why some might see LSD as more recreational.

I came across some studies that support the idea that the effects of all three are dose dependent. I do believe that they feel somewhat different and that the study measures used did not measure those aspects. For example if you are looking to compare a Ferrari with a mac truck and you only measure how long it takes to get from A to B within the speed limit, they look identical. But the ride is quite different. Nevertheless, these are interesting:

https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/there-are-no-major-differences-between-an-lsd-and-a-psilocybin-trip-study-finds-313674

https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/no-differences-between-equivalent-doses-of-lsd-mescaline-and-psilocybin-study-finds-314809

So, it is likely that if you have used LSD or Psilocybin and had good experiences in general, you would likely do fine with a comparable dose of mescaline. The caveat is that none of these are predictable, but I don't believe that a comparable dose of mescaline would be harder to handle (maybe easier) than the other two. As always, important to address set, setting and safety - having a sitter there or available if needed. I agree that a moderate, not too light or heavy dose of any psychedelic is the way to approach a new experience, giving you a good idea of the feel and nature of the substance but not overwhelming you and allowing you to judge for yourself.

All of these have contributed to personal growth, helped in the resolution of conflicts and knowing (okay, believing) that some aspect of us is beyond our usual waking state, that we are not just our bodies, that we are all connected at a deep level and that love, not romantic love or love of someone/some thing, but rather love as an energy without an object of love, is the true nature of our consciousness.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Neurotech]
    #28630892 - 01/22/24 10:37 AM (5 days, 21 hours ago)

Neurotech i totally agree that LSD is not recreational. LSD was my introduction to psychedelics 30+ years back and though it was taken recreationally/experimentally the first time, well, it's spiritual side effects are still kicking all this time later. IMHO anytime a macrodose is taken of any psych, whether it was intended as recreation or not, the taker should on some level be ready to do some work. because a real macro dose is work. beautiful and sometimes dark work to find the light at the other side.

on a side note, i love lucy. i haven't seen any for a good 5+ years or so now and recently created an experience that was very similar if not more lsd than lsd (if that's possible) by extracting LSA from HBWR using Tregar's LSH/I method. then taking mush tea about an hour after ingesting that extraction. out of hundreds of times taking psychs over the years at all different doses, this experience is in the top 10. i really wasn't expecting it to work sooo well. if you like lucy too and haven't seen her in a while, this was a surprisingly easy way to return to lysergic ethereal planes :wink:


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    #28630985 - 01/22/24 12:06 PM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

Very interesting! I searched the site for LSH/I, but only saw references to LSH. Do you have a link?


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    #28631132 - 01/22/24 02:35 PM (5 days, 18 hours ago)

if what you found was from Tregar, that's it. they have a considerable amount of info on this.

could be as simple as making sure you have untreated organic quality seeds. then crush them. i use a mortar and pestle. put in a small sealable jar in chilled distilled water. added juice of half a fresh lemon, covered the jar in foil so no light, put it in the fridge and swirled it anytime i thought about over 12hrs. then filtered through a fine mesh coffee basket. and bottoms up. i used 5 seeds. took it in 2-3 quick shots. then waited to start making lemon tek tea out 4.5g dried jedis. (they had been in a dark jar i sealed 1.5 years ago. if they were fresh i'd not have pushed the quantity up to nearly 5g.) i took the steeped jedi tea at 1hr and 10 min after consuming the HBWR extraction. i also consumed about 30g of thc via home made cannabutter over the first 2-3 hrs. and this was again one of the best psych experiences i've had. and i've had a couple decades of journeys. seriously.


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    #28634048 - 01/25/24 06:19 AM (3 days, 2 hours ago)

Thanks for recounting your experience Jim iti. Lemon juice contains levels of isovaleraldehyde just like peppermint tea and oils, lsa + the aldehyde isovaleraldehyde can form lsi, lsi is very close to the same molecular weight as lsd and easily fits into the docking receptor, contains same number of carbons and hydrogens on the aside as lsd.

I love mescaline myself and drank cactus tea at least 150 times over 2 decades. Search for cactus tea before the Waterpark to beat the heat for easy method to make zero nausea tea, the fridge does all the work filtering, super easy.


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    #28634253 - 01/25/24 09:56 AM (2 days, 22 hours ago)

I saw that post, sounds like a freaking blast! You really only boiled it for an hour or so? I just did a 24hr pull lol.


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    #28634854 - 01/25/24 06:46 PM (2 days, 13 hours ago)

i cant wait to journey with one of my cacti i've been growing. will be my first time preparing it and it's been at least 25 years since i had mescaline


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Damn! Special :awepreciation:


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