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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA] * 1
    #28629630 - 01/21/24 09:25 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

I will say it was good though. I’m dealing with demons and figuring things out. Nothing tragic or anything just those demons that make us lash out and yell or break shit or whatever one might do. I get very cold and self destruct.

Figuring out what I really truly want. Trying to be happy first and foremost. Figuring out what my demons actually are and what’s the message as it’s more like a lifetime of piling vs a single event messing with me that is easily pointed at. War/violence, rape, abuse, etc…

It was rough I got drug through the mud. But it was good. As I laid in bed I smiled  and thanked Mr San Pedro for the journey. I did have a grand father feel and wondered if that was shared. It was cool to see it mentioned here as mushrooms feel feminine to me. I laughed laying in bed as it calmed down and said I did challenge you and you did deliver…. Thank you….. hopefully we’re done now but if not I get it haha I remember I really wanted to add that part and make it clear lol


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629635 - 01/21/24 09:27 AM (6 days, 23 hours ago)

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Yeah I just read your trip report, sounded intense at times. At least you know for sure your source of San Pedro is legit!  Do you think the weed helped kick it in and you just took a lot of Pedro? Or do you think it was a combo of the two together that was the issue. I’ve heard others say they have a synergy and kicks the visuals into higher gear.




I’m totally assuming but I do feel it was both. Legit San Pedro at a high dose with some good and strong weed on top. I was hitting that joint left and right trying to make something happen.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28629684 - 01/21/24 10:11 AM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

I totally get that. I know a lot of people have had terrible things happen to them, but I feel like the stuff I stockpile inside led to me doing more damage to myself than anyone else did. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve been dealt a challenging hand, and I struggle sometimes to be the rock everyone needs me to be. I work non stop, have two kids, one of which is special needs and it is always challenging. Still, when I really look at it. All the things I’m unhappy or stressed about are in my head. Part of my subjective experience. I suffer cuz I want things to be different than they are. That’s prob just me tho. Sometimes just gotta let that shit out lol.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629777 - 01/21/24 12:00 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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Between .4-.7g dried powder of the dark  green flesh.  I like .6 cuz you can just barely sense something, but it’s working pretty good at that dose to raise my energy and mood. Helps with focus too but I feel that more the next day for some reason. Doesn’t make much sense but I’ve done it like 20+ times and it’s been like that pretty much every time for me and the wife. I have noticed muscle tension in my neck and shoulder the times I took .7 twice in a week. Not enough to really complain about, but wanted to be as transparent as I can.





This is great info for her. So you might assume that possibly San pedro might be like a gram of powder for a micro dose?
Once again, thanks for this first hand information!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28629778 - 01/21/24 12:02 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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^ Yes that day-after boost you get from the microdose, is one of the after-effects I get from a macro dose except it lasts for weeks afterward. Just an enhanced sense of power and energy, or "fortitude" might be a good word for it. As well as enhanced empathy for others and investment in community.




Wow- so Mecaline is sort of similar to Ketamine that can have weeks of benefits?

I say that only because the "after glow" and benefits of mushrooms seem to wear off much faster. Sometimes within days, but certainly never weeks.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629779 - 01/21/24 12:03 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

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I only ate 100grams of San Pedro powder.

There was no doing anything normally. Half of it was me thinking this shit isn’t doing anything what a waste… other half was realizing I’m tripping balls. The peak was intense as hell. I was passionately convincing 2 of these awesome trees how beautiful they still are despite being stripped bare due to winter… that’s when the peak was happening. Had to lay in bed shortly after this.

And I didn’t want to do anything the next day. Almost nothing the second day as well. Be patient it takes its sweet ass time.




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100grams could potentially be like 1.5-2 grams mescaline if it was just the outer flesh. Depending on the potency of course. Most of the extractions using 100  grams  as a starting point pull about 1.5g from what I’ve gathered.  That’s a staggering dose. Even if the cactus wasn’t that strong I bet it would still be a significant dose.




:ohsnap: Oh wow that's a heavy dose right?
Great reports y'all!
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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420] * 1
    #28629788 - 01/21/24 12:12 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

1 gram seems reasonable for San Pedro.  I use Bridgesii which is more consistently potent. It also has a more stimulating buzz than San Pedro . I usually age them in a closet or drawer for a couple of months first. Seems to make them more potent. But that sounds about right. Someone recently told me that 50mgs mescaline hcl is a microdose. You could use the math I guess to estimate, but I would just kinda feel it out.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629793 - 01/21/24 12:26 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

Mescaline is like a candy flip from Nature. Its a beautiful experience.

If you havent experience MescaJuana, you are missing out my friend! :happyweed:

Im going to do another San Pedro methanol extract this Summer. I am quite excited!


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28629801 - 01/21/24 12:40 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

Have you had the crystal extract and compared it to a methanol/iso kind of extract? I’m wondering if it’s worth all this damn effort to do a full extraction. I wanted to get an accurate dose since I don’t get to do it often and didn’t want a lack luster experience. That and I figured it would be cleaner and less body high that way. But making a tea is looking more and more appealing lol.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629823 - 01/21/24 01:05 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

I have yet to try a crystalline extract. Someday....:sadyes:


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28629836 - 01/21/24 01:13 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

If you wanna try a methanol extract, I just wrote-up a simple tek showing the process: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28629835#28629835


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28629878 - 01/21/24 01:52 PM (6 days, 18 hours ago)

what if someone doesn't remove the core, is the whole recipe you posted no longer good?


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629909 - 01/21/24 02:13 PM (6 days, 18 hours ago)

It will be fine. There is prob some alkaloids in the core too. Just more matter to filter. There may be alkaloids in the core that add to the body high… but it won’t ruin the recipe.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28629975 - 01/21/24 02:56 PM (6 days, 17 hours ago)

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what if someone doesn't remove the core, is the whole recipe you posted no longer good?





Trust me, you MUST remove the core before extracting!!!!! No expectations! Most of the toxins are inside the core so removing the core is CRITICAL to having an good, enjoyable experience.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28630741 - 01/22/24 07:53 AM (6 days, 42 minutes ago)

i have a Bridgesii and a pachanoi growing. i've never personally processed a cactus into tea or powder or anything. i've also not had mesculine for i dunno, like 30 years now.

how are you making your powder? are you literally just slicing the cactus, drying it and powdering with an herb grinder? is there any other steps involved in your process? if it is just straight up dried and powdered, does it cause nausea or puking?

curious as i'll probably process for the first time this spring or summer. my pedro will be around 3ft by then so figure i sould be able to dry powder, and tea...have a reall good dose, and also make cutting to grow more.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28630758 - 01/22/24 08:18 AM (6 days, 17 minutes ago)

You can dry it but if you’re working directly with the cactus you don’t have to. You can just put it in a blender and go from there. Nausea depends on the person from everything I’ve seen. I was fine eating 100grams just got extremely bloated.

I’ve heard diet helps. I’ve heard if you’re eating processed foods you have a higher chance of getting nausea with psychedelics. I almost never eat processed foods but not sure if it’s at all true.

When I ate mushrooms at a young age I had to fight puking with everything I had and I ate almost nothing other than processed foods.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28630777 - 01/22/24 08:35 AM (6 days, 29 seconds ago)

yeah i've never puked or felt nauseated from cubes. i've pushed LSA/H/I pretty high and never puked. and enjoy amanita often without ever puking.

from what i've read removing the core and getting to it is an easy way to go. i'm not sure if i'll try to tea or extract or not as i've also heard there are other alkaloids in the actual cactus that aid the experience versus trying to extract and get to pure mescaline


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    #28630798 - 01/22/24 08:50 AM (5 days, 23 hours ago)

there's some great conversation through this thread outside of the actual mechanics of cacti ingestion.

and like the others have mentioned, i too am facing demons but no one trauma. just the compilation of childhood scars left by a way toooo conservative evangelical upbringing combined with everything that happens in life.

personally i subscribe to the Buddhist philosophy that life is suffering. i think that so many of us become victims of the social construct that tells us we're supposed to be happy all the time and get what we want. it's a lie. understanding that suffering is constant allows us to realize the moments when we're not, and to fully appreciate them. i think this is why so much of the population fights depression. people think they're supposed to be always happy and that's just not reality.

i recently saw a comparison of 1984 to brave new world that i really liked. saying that Orwells observations were past and current, government controlled the masses by imposing scarcity. where as Huxley accurately predicted the future. goverment controls the massed by inflicting pleasure. that pleasure is the impossible constant happy to prevent us from seeing the suffering that's actually all around us.

sorry this is off from just mescalilne, but since i ended on Huxley... lol.

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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28630841 - 01/22/24 09:47 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

Hmm interesting, I wonder how Huxley’s book Island would compare - maybe the residents of this utopian Island, while they do seem wise and in harmony, are themselves out of touch with suffering, and this is brought home by the end of the book - the inevitability of the oil company coming to exploit them and their land.

I do appreciate the “ordeal” aspect of psychedelics, I feel much stronger psychologically (and physically) as a result of the psychedelic struggle.


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Re: What is the point of Mescaline? Is a Low dose of mescaline in the morning and then going about a day as normal is this po... [Re: Jim I.T.I] * 1
    #28630867 - 01/22/24 10:17 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

I found Mescaline, in the form of peyote buttons and once in a capsule called chocolate mesc, to be much smoother in feel and transition (the come up - other than puking) than either LSD or mushrooms. The visuals were less electric/neon than LSD, and not sloppy like psilocybin. On a higher dose of shrooms, I feel a surge as I approach the next wave of the peak, a feeling like being shot into somewhere that may or may not be scary. Mescaline was much more natural of a feeling, and the visuals were just as intense as LSD. I found less anxiety than either psilocybin or LSD. In my day, the 70's, alot of weak LSD was sold as mescaline in the form of microdots - TINY little purple tablets. Waaaay past high school now, I am not among people who sell these things, so I would have easiest access by growing mushrooms. so I have not had LSD or mescaline in decades. Got some paper at a festival once, but it was obviously a research chemical.

That being said, it might be different for others, but if I took 100 micrograms of LSD every day, the tolerance would be obvious and the effect much much less pronounced after a day or two. My experience has been that psychedelic doses of any of these, repeated too often without time in between doses can be counterproductive and the trip itself repetitive. You can end up very adept at tripping and paying less attention to the rest of your life. Also, I have to differ when you describe LSD as beng more recreational. At small doses it can be, just like psilocybin. But you get to the same spiritual/philosophical places and LSD's potential in terms of psychological development and awareness as you would with shrooms.

In terms of accessibility, I think LSD is the easiest to procure and to ingest, followed by mushrooms and then mescaline. So much easier to put a piece of paper on your tongue than to eat shrooms or make tea. The ease of use may be a factor in why some might see LSD as more recreational.

I came across some studies that support the idea that the effects of all three are dose dependent. I do believe that they feel somewhat different and that the study measures used did not measure those aspects. For example if you are looking to compare a Ferrari with a mac truck and you only measure how long it takes to get from A to B within the speed limit, they look identical. But the ride is quite different. Nevertheless, these are interesting:

https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/there-are-no-major-differences-between-an-lsd-and-a-psilocybin-trip-study-finds-313674

https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/no-differences-between-equivalent-doses-of-lsd-mescaline-and-psilocybin-study-finds-314809

So, it is likely that if you have used LSD or Psilocybin and had good experiences in general, you would likely do fine with a comparable dose of mescaline. The caveat is that none of these are predictable, but I don't believe that a comparable dose of mescaline would be harder to handle (maybe easier) than the other two. As always, important to address set, setting and safety - having a sitter there or available if needed. I agree that a moderate, not too light or heavy dose of any psychedelic is the way to approach a new experience, giving you a good idea of the feel and nature of the substance but not overwhelming you and allowing you to judge for yourself.

All of these have contributed to personal growth, helped in the resolution of conflicts and knowing (okay, believing) that some aspect of us is beyond our usual waking state, that we are not just our bodies, that we are all connected at a deep level and that love, not romantic love or love of someone/some thing, but rather love as an energy without an object of love, is the true nature of our consciousness.

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