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vandago


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Got my entire car ripped apart last night. 2
#28626884 - 01/19/24 08:42 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago) |
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After work I stopped at the grocery store. Grabbed groceries and a few gifts for my kid. Went across the street and got gas and a pack of papers. For whatever reason was being followed by a local cop. I’m sure the reason was my patchwork coat.
He waited until I was done getting gas and then peeled out behind me and hit me with the lights. I wasn’t sure exactly why, but I pulled over into a safe spot.
Had my id and insurance ready.
He asked if I had anything in the car. I said no. He asked 5 more times. I said no. He told me to get out of the car. I said no.
He grabs his gun and rips open my car door.
At this point I can see the escalated direction this was going c and clearly didn’t have an option. I stepped out in 15 degrees no gloves.
He said I would either give him consent to search or stand in the freezing cold detained and wait for a k9 to walk around the car.
I spent about 40 minutes explained to the now three cops how they were incorrect and they would be getting a nice complaint from my end. They sat and tried grilling me.
The cop asked for my phone number 6 times before I locked eyes with him and said “I’m not your fucking buddy. I’m not your fucking friend. I can see you’re just going to pull this bullshit and let me freeze out here, so search the fucking car, I have nothing to hide”
Cop finds a pack of papers and screams drug paraphernalia. I reminded him Marijuana is legal and there wasn’t any in the car. They searched for about 10 minutes while I was literally getting frost bite, as I wasn’t allowed to have my hands in my pockets.
I wasn’t able to record any of this as it all happened with a solid pre scripted way of the cops taking all power from me.
I was given a license plate ticket. I informed the cop I would be filing a complaint with his Sargent as well as going and filing a complaint with the federal court on him.
I look up ohios laws in regards, apparently in Ohio if the cop asks you to get out of the car, you not only have to comply, but you can be forcefully arrested for not doing so.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago] 4
#28626905 - 01/19/24 09:08 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago) |
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Pigs be piggin'
Sorry to hear about your bullshit shakedown, the majority of cops can go choke to death on a dick, as far as I'm concerned.
How are your appendages doing after all that exposure?
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: Jean-Luc Picard] 1
#28626949 - 01/19/24 09:49 AM (9 days, 4 hours ago) |
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Reading this thing and come to ‘consent… k9’. Something is wrong if they can pull you over and then wait for k9 to come and give them a right to then proceed to search the car. Those dogs are so far from man’s best friend.
Cop radio, “operation patchwork. Find his drugs!’
Glad to read of no troubles. And, yes, do take moment to put your two cents in to what happened. I’ve had the great disposition of being a victim to cop abuse and those cops have had the disposition of losing their employment. And the thing is, it was a major bummer by the cops action both times.
Patchwork coat, awesome clothing, a drug rug to your local cops. Ha.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28626972 - 01/19/24 10:06 AM (9 days, 4 hours ago) |
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Untested legal theory: I have said that I was outgunned and cooperating in order to avoid an inconvenience. I do not fully understand what are my rights, which would require a law degree.
Where I was told to sign, I made a notation, that I was put under pressure or duress, which really pisses them off.
There is a legal, gray area between being uncooperative and giving your rights away, and you were being held in damaging cold, the results of which should have been recorded.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: durian_2008] 1
#28626982 - 01/19/24 10:09 AM (9 days, 4 hours ago) |
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ACAB
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: micronaut]
#28627068 - 01/19/24 11:09 AM (9 days, 3 hours ago) |
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Oof, they really fuck your shit right up don't they? It's disgusting. You're lucky they didn't try to accuse you DUI when they found the papers, idk about the legalities of it but I know that med patients in PA getting DUIs when they're not high is a known problem, wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't much better in Ohio.
I've been lucky enough to avoid it myself, but my friend went through it because they thought she was trafficking heroin (white girl going in and out of a bad area regulary maybe? She most certainly was not a heroin trafficker lol). Ripped her car's interior totally apart. She was a stylist and had a ton of expensive cosmetics and shampoos and stuff for work that got totally destroyed because they poured testing agents on/in everything. Found nothing, but of course there's no recouping those expenses in any current reality.
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vandago


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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: durian_2008]
#28627574 - 01/19/24 06:11 PM (8 days, 20 hours ago) |
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durian_2008 said: Untested legal theory: I have said that I was outgunned and cooperating in order to avoid an inconvenience. I do not fully understand what are my rights, which would require a law degree.
Where I was told to sign, I made a notation, that I was put under pressure or duress, which really pisses them off.
There is a legal, gray area between being uncooperative and giving your rights away, and you were being held in damaging cold, the results of which should have been recorded.
Well the body cam got turned on AFTER I got out of the car, but he forcefully opened my door hand on gun, so it was either get out or get shot.
I wasn’t even leaving a high profile area. I had a trunk and backseat full of groceries. Marijuana just got legalized on Dec 7th and he tried saying I had drug paraphernalia. I had an unopened pack of rolling papers I just bought. He couldn’t have even said ovi, as the pack had never been tampered with. I would’ve taken that to trial.
I hadn’t done a single mind altering substance what so ever. Not even nicotine. This shit happens every time I stop smoking. Like the cops are watching me and unless I’m killing my self, they’re on me. It’s why I always start.
This shit really bothers me, because I make most of my money delivering groceries in that area. There’s other areas but not as high pay. I’ve ran in with the cops countless times over the last 6 years, and they’ve always been chill and sometimes very helpful. Car breaks down on the side of the road, cop actually blocked highway traffic for me… like stood in the middle of the fucking lane and I was certain she was going to get hit… so I could put gas in my tank.
I’m not sure what this cop was on with me. It seemed very personal, and he brought up god like that. The whole thing was a head fuck. I was certain I was about to get fucked up.
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vandago


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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago] 1
#28627580 - 01/19/24 06:14 PM (8 days, 20 hours ago) |
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I had a cop push my car with me. I had a cop unlock my car with my keys in it several times. I had a cop put gas in my tank twice.
I’m on the road so much it’s bound to happen here and there. They’ve always been chill, never even asked to search and just believed me when I spoke. This cop profiled the fuck out of me ( I had the same coat on in every run in with said cops accept one. )
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28627633 - 01/19/24 06:43 PM (8 days, 20 hours ago) |
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Even though you shouldn't have to and it sounds stupid, maybe you should stop wearing that particular coat? Anyways, that sounds very horrible to go through. I've been strongly considering holding a sign up that says "End qualified immunity for cops" at the street corner for a while now.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28627663 - 01/19/24 07:19 PM (8 days, 19 hours ago) |
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I would throw that coat in the trash
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago] 1
#28627768 - 01/19/24 08:42 PM (8 days, 18 hours ago) |
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Yeah you definitely have to get out of the vehicle when asked to. You sure don't have to give them permission to search your car or give them your number that's just absurd.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#28627935 - 01/19/24 11:20 PM (8 days, 15 hours ago) |
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It was like heavy metal patches sewed on or like a hobo jacket?

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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: viraldrome] 1
#28628110 - 01/20/24 05:22 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago) |
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It’s hand stitched by an artist in Nepal. It’s got no Grateful Dead, or any band insignia stuff on it. It’s not gang related. It’s art.
I get more positive reactions in public with this than I do any other coat. Mostly elderly people and kids.
I’m going to retire it though. I was going to retire it about a month ago, I just haven’t found a replacement yet. I kinda like the Lincoln’s that are similar to carharts though. I just got my fiancé one of those, and they look super durable and warm.
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vandago


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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28628114 - 01/20/24 05:25 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago) |
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The fact I’m being forced into changed attire is absolute bullshit though. We’ve been looking to move the last year as it is, so we are just looking at this as a blessing in disguise. Fuck Ohio.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28628121 - 01/20/24 05:33 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Keep the jacket but wear these -

They'll protect you from suspicion
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vandago


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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: feevers] 1
#28628126 - 01/20/24 05:38 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Lmfao.
I’d get pulled over more with those.
“Sir, you did nothing wrong, just gonna need to ask for the name of everyone you know who does drugs”
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28628157 - 01/20/24 06:15 AM (8 days, 8 hours ago) |
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vandago said: It’s hand stitched by an artist in Nepal.
That's fucking gorgeous.

Too bad about the cops, man. Massive prejudice going on, evidently.
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: koraks] 2
#28628169 - 01/20/24 06:40 AM (8 days, 8 hours ago) |
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It’s almost impossible to not wear it. I have the kindest walks of life approach me. People I can tell are pretty introverted, or jaded towards a harsh world, make time to just approach me and say hi. It’s always calm and happy chit chat and it brightens my day, and I can tell with my size it eases people when I enter stores.
I do 10-15 shopping trips a day. I’m a pretty large person. The coat is lightly a neutralizing approach to public for me. The cops just immediately see anything with art or style as drugs in the this area. Murder capital of the entire country, yet they focus on shit like this
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28628213 - 01/20/24 07:31 AM (8 days, 7 hours ago) |
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That's an awesome coat! Ganesh has got your back even if the cops don't!
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Re: Got my entire car ripped apart last night. [Re: vandago]
#28628215 - 01/20/24 07:36 AM (8 days, 7 hours ago) |
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vandago said: The fact I’m being forced into changed attire is absolute bullshit though. We’ve been looking to move the last year as it is, so we are just looking at this as a blessing in disguise. Fuck Ohio.
No that wasn't what i envisioned, that's nice. Gtfo out of Ohio sounds like a plan, cops here only care about people doing drugs while driving, the days of 'do you have any weed in the car' are long over, maybe if you had a whole fresh crop you just tore down, but the war on weed, or personal amounts of any drugs are pretty over in my city.
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