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What actual evidence is there that George Bush and the Bush family profited from the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and if so, How much
    #28627587 - 01/19/24 06:17 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Was having a conversation where I claimed that the Bush family made lots of money because of their investments in Calgary and other companies that profit from war, however, when asked to substantiate the evidence, I was unable to locate any information proving that with substantial evidence.

Even AI claims that any accusations that the Bush family made hundreds of millions of dollars from the war lack any substantial evidence.

So- if the Bush family profited from the 20+ year war in Iraq/Afghanistan
- Just how much was it? and can you prove that?


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Re: What actual evidence is there that George Bush and the Bush family profited from the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and if so, H... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28628388 - 01/20/24 10:29 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Someone like Halliburton Dick Cheney far more obviously directly benefited than someone like Bush.

I reckon a guy like Tony Blair (far less wealthy/powerful at the time of the Iraq war) is also a better example for the kind of Faustian pacts that these politicians make with the permanent state. Look at that scumbag today...

And it isn't that you'll find they were being bunged with brown envelopes. You only need to study Blair's employment record and how he has made his money (a man who, after all, managed to get himself knighted despite being utterly reviled by the British public) after leaving office.

A man who in a just universe would have been utterly ruined after the atrocity that was The War on Terror, has only increased his wealth/power exponentially, despite being a Lawyer by trade and not some kind of entrepreneurial genius!

Play ball, and rest assured, all the doors will miraculously open up for you later on, and it will (on paper at least) be totally above board and legal!

Refuse and you'll get the Gerhard Schröder treatment!

I always got the impression though that Bushes presidency was based more on Daddy issues (and I know that's a tired cliche) than pure megalomania or malevolence as with someone like Blair or Dick Cheney, though I was always struck by Bush juniors (apparent) lack of affect!

But perhaps I'm more charitable to Bush on account of his apparent stupidity (another cliche)!

At the end of the day, we do not know these people!

I do wonder sometimes if the Iraq war plays on his mind though.



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Re: What actual evidence is there that George Bush and the Bush family profited from the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and if so, H... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28632339 - 01/23/24 04:54 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

You just have to look in the right context, because bribery is legalised through donations from superpacs to campaigns, but not directly to individuals. Although donating to an individual's campaign is effectively giving them the money.

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Contractors were major Bush donorsNew report shows such companies hold many political links.

BY LARRY MARGASAK ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON - Companies awarded $8 billion in contracts to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan have been major campaign donors to President Bush, and their executives have had important political and military connections, according to a study released Thursday.

The study of more than 70 U.S. companies and individual contractors turned up greater than $500,000 in donations to the president's 2000 campaign, more than they gave collectively to any other politician over the past dozen years.

https://www.ocala.com/story/news/2003/10/31/contractors-were-major-bush-donors/31283368007/




The campaign donations through lobbying are what politicians like Bush gained financially. The lobbyists then gain for their cause through contracts etc that might not have been as likely to go through without their 'generous' donations.

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Top Defense Firms Spend $1B On Lobbying During Afghan War, See $2T Return

Everyone except the military industrial complex lost the 'war on terror.'

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/09/02/top-defense-firms-see-2t-return-on-1b-investment-in-afghan-war/




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Re: What actual evidence is there that George Bush and the Bush family profited from the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and if so, H... [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28632345 - 01/23/24 05:03 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

And then there's more in regard to contracts and the Bush families involvement. And as we know the Pentagon has failed every audit since they were made mandatory in 2018, with hundreds of billions of unaccounted for funds. It's no stretch to assume there were also unnacounted for funds when Bush was in office. Money didn't start going missing as soon as an audit was required.

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ALL IN THE FAMILY—As the Washington Spectator previously reported, financial ties connecting the First Family to the “war on terror” have been numerous and pervasive. Former president George H.W. Bush served until fall 2003 on the board of defense giant the Carlyle Group, now broken up, which won billions of U.S. tax dollars in military and security contracts. A limited liability company in D.C. called New Bridge Strategies, established to generate business in Iraq, put Neil M. Bush, a younger brother of the president, under contract at $60,000 per year. An obscure, short-lived company named Nour USA, based in Virginia and connected to Marvin P. Bush, youngest brother of the president, received a controversial $327 million contract from the U.S. Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. The broad-ranging contract for a raft of products from a new company raised so many questions that it was canceled. However, a new private company called Anham Joint Venture replaced Nour and comprises most of the same members. Members of joint ventures, unlike those of corporations, are not required under Virginia law to be listed in the public record. The revised company also has received Iraq contracts.

A TALE OF CONTRACTS AND CONNECTIONS—In St. Louis, Missouri, Engineered Support Systems (ESSI), where an uncle of the president, William H.T. Bush, joined the board of directors in election year 2000, illustrates the nexus between White House policy and companies that benefit from it. ESSI, now merged with another major contractor, advertises itself as offering “advanced sustainment solutions, including the design, manufacture and supply of integrated military electronics, support equipment and technical and logistics services for all branches of America’s armed forces and certain foreign militaries, homeland security forces and selected government and intelligence agencies.”

After experiencing a jump in sales from $365 million in 2001 to $1 billion in 2005 under the Bush administration, largely from government contracts, ESSI was sold in January 2006 to DRS Technologies of New Jersey. The Los Angeles Times reported that William Bush, the uncle, reaped $2.7 million from the sale. Bush, who told the Times that he never makes telephone calls to the “202 [Washington, D.C.] area code,” received about $1.9 million in cash and $800,000 worth of stock in the merged company, which continues to acquire sizable military contracts.
DRS spokesperson Patricia Williamson said in response to e-mailed questions to her about the president’s uncle that William Bush’s presence on the ESSI board was “absolutely not” a factor in the acquisition of the company.

According to DRS, Bear Stearns, the brokerage company “served as financial advisor to DRS on the transaction. Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. also served as financial advisor to DRS for the purpose of rendering a fairness opinion. Lehman Brothers Inc. served as financial advisor to ESSI on the transaction.”

All three companies—Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, and Lehman Brothers—are linked to the Bush team personally and financially. Among other connections, the president’s brother Marvin P. Bush once worked at the brokerage then called Shearson Lehman; Merrill Lynch incorporated the former G.H. Walker firm, founded by the president’s grandfather George Herbert Walker; and Bear Stearns chairman and CEO James Cayne was a Bush “Pioneer,” raising over $100,000 for the 2004 Bush campaign. According to Texans for Public Justice, a public-interest group, “Bear Stearns’s threats to move to New Jersey in the 1990s netted $105 million in tax breaks and other corporate welfare from New York City. In 1997 Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s administration awarded $75 million of this welfare to Bear, which in 2003 hired Giuliani to launch a new investment fund of companies that sell anti-terrorism products.” Hiring these firms to monitor a merger of defense contractors would seem to resemble hiring an escort service to chaperone a fraternity party

https://washingtonspectator.org/bush-relatives-keep-cashing-in-with-military-contracts/




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Pentagon Can't Account for $220 Billion of Gear Given to Contractors

https://reason.com/2023/01/18/pentagon-cant-account-for-220-billion-of-gear-given-to-contractors/




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