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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28626948 - 01/19/24 09:49 AM (8 days, 11 hours ago)

In what regard?

Biden’s approval rating is dogshit. He’s expanding a war that’s extremely unpopular with his base into a regional conflict. He’s done some student loan forgiveness, some nibbling around the edges on inflation, but nothing substantial. Unemployment is low but everything is insanely expensive.

I mean, you can believe that everyone is an idiot for not buying into obvious Biden superiority, but unless you’re gonna educate all these people and make them see the light in the next 9 months it’s really a moot point.

Dems can either change their strategy (won’t happen), or change their messaging. Or do neither and just cross their fingers and hope Trump dies before November.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28627020 - 01/19/24 10:41 AM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
In what regard?

Biden’s approval rating is dogshit. He’s expanding a war that’s extremely unpopular with his base into a regional conflict. He’s done some student loan forgiveness, some nibbling around the edges on inflation, but nothing substantial. Unemployment is low but everything is insanely expensive.

I mean, you can believe that everyone is an idiot for not buying into obvious Biden superiority, but unless you’re gonna educate all these people and make them see the light in the next 9 months it’s really a moot point.

Dems can either change their strategy (won’t happen), or change their messaging. Or do neither and just cross their fingers and hope Trump dies before November.




Short of Trump being disqualified somehow, or murdered... He will be our next president.

People need to stop looking to politicians (At least at the Federal level), to fix problems. If we had spent all of the money, time, and energy that we contributed to the Bernie campaign on helping people in our own local communities, imagine what we could have accomplished.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627023 - 01/19/24 10:43 AM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

a lot of people sure did get suckered by the promise of bernie:shrug:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
    #28627028 - 01/19/24 10:46 AM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

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a lot of people sure did get suckered by the promise of bernie:shrug:




They got suckered by a DNC that put on a show of an election, when behind the scenes they rigged the game, and always knew how it would play out. They mislead voters, and cost them enormous amounts of $ and wasted effort/time.

What's really gross is the fact that so many people are so smugly ok with it all. The Dems gave us Trump, and they are doing it again.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
    #28627032 - 01/19/24 10:49 AM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

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a lot of people sure did get suckered by the promise of bernie:shrug:




Idiots.

I’m glad we went with Biden. He’s a moderate that can work across the aisle and get things done.

Sanders would’ve been stonewalled by the GOP and not allowed to do anything.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627037 - 01/19/24 10:53 AM (8 days, 10 hours ago)

biden ran in 2016?

the dnc didnt give us trump people like you did.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
    #28627051 - 01/19/24 11:00 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

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biden ran in 2016?

the dnc didnt give us trump people like you did.




I voted for Bernie, someone who could have beat Trump handily, in the general election. The DNC rigged the election against Bernie. Your logic is clearly flawed.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627056 - 01/19/24 11:03 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

right and you didnt vote for hildawg i assume? so you helped hand trump the presidency by staying at home.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28627067 - 01/19/24 11:08 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

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right and you didnt vote for hildawg i assume? so you helped hand trump the presidency by staying at home.




You know, I may very well have actually voted for Clinton, had the DNC been honest, instead of putting on a false election and wasting everyone's time and money.

You're simply wrong. The Democratic party doesn't get to blame voters for their poor strategy. They are to blame.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627072 - 01/19/24 11:14 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

so you handed the repubs a +1 net vote.

just to stick it to the dnc?

nice. im not the dnc but i do blame you.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
    #28627075 - 01/19/24 11:16 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

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so you handed the repubs a +1 net vote.

just to stick it to the dnc?

nice.




You have some goofy logic bro.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627077 - 01/19/24 11:17 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

i mean trump lost the popular vote anyway so i guess your vote didnt matter but i still blame you.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
    #28627079 - 01/19/24 11:18 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

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i mean trump lost the popular vote anyway so i guess your vote didnt matter but i still blame you.
:angryguy:




:angryguy: Back at ya, bro!


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28627091 - 01/19/24 11:29 AM (8 days, 9 hours ago)

I voted myself in because none of you people would :angryguy:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: huey.bluey]
    #28627210 - 01/19/24 01:06 PM (8 days, 7 hours ago)

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I voted myself in because none of you people would :angryguy:




I'd vote for you... If you paid me to. You just never asked.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28627301 - 01/19/24 02:13 PM (8 days, 6 hours ago)

Biden performed as I expected. Remember we weren't expecting much.
He wasn't supposed to be talented, just sane, establishment, centrist, and progressive on social issues and see what he maybe could get away with on economic issues.
You can just about predict his moves in advance. Would have been surprised if he acted differently on Covid/stimulus, Israel, abortion, attitude about unions in general vs train strike specifically, capital punishment, infrastructure plan, climate change.

The two most recent national polls show Biden slightly ahead of Trump reversing the previous trend. I don't give polls too much predictive power unless they show consistent big margins. Gore and Hillary were supposed to win by medium margins. For that reason I have no idea if Bernie was derailed by the party or  whether he would have beaten Trump.  Aat any rate the shift in polling results is still good news for the Dems. Was it because inflation improved or Trump is looking worse. Looking better than Trump is the only reason Bernie won the first time, doubt anything has changed.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #28627310 - 01/19/24 02:23 PM (8 days, 6 hours ago)

some people here are to jaded to see biden as sane. theyve been hurt..

.. politically.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28627410 - 01/19/24 03:54 PM (8 days, 5 hours ago)

Just keep your expectations low and nominate people that don’t inspire excitement.

Now that’s building an electoral voter base. Cant imagine why they lose half the time to clown show fascists. Must be Russia.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28627436 - 01/19/24 04:12 PM (8 days, 4 hours ago)

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Just keep your expectations low and nominate people that don’t inspire excitement.

Now that’s building an electoral voter base. Cant imagine why they lose half the time to clown show fascists. Must be Russia.




What do we want? INCREMENTAL CHANGE

When do we want it!?! IN THE NEAR FUTURE!


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 4
    #28627461 - 01/19/24 04:30 PM (8 days, 4 hours ago)



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