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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus] * 3
    #28626701 - 01/19/24 03:15 AM (9 days, 11 hours ago)

GOOD LORD!

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That is a lot of Fuukin' snow! :lol:

We got some snow in Oregon too. In my area, we got a good 3-4 inches, which is somewhat rare for this area, especially in January.









I wanted to hit my bong but it was frozen! Grrrrr!



My favorite part was playing with my 4x4 R/C Truck. Wish I had a spare battery!







Then it rained and make it extra-slick. Scary to walk on but it sure was cool-looking:





On the last day of the storm, it rained again as the temperatures warmed up and it left this spooky white fog-mist in the air. Earlier in the week, I was reading The Well of Ascension, a Mistborn series book, so this weather was really trippy to see in person:


It was quite the storm. So many weather patterns came thru, one after another. Mother Nature on a whirlwind of emotions.


A beautiful, unexpected, surreal Winter Wonderland.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28626788 - 01/19/24 06:44 AM (9 days, 8 hours ago)

Bong rippin and RC car driftin! Looks fun!


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28626791 - 01/19/24 06:48 AM (9 days, 8 hours ago)

Woke up to less than an inch. Booo!


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626822 - 01/19/24 07:40 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626829 - 01/19/24 07:47 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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christopera said:
I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way




There is no need to be a dipshit just because someone said something that you disagree with.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626839 - 01/19/24 07:54 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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christopera said:
I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way




There is no need to be a dipshit just because someone said something that you disagree with.




Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626848 - 01/19/24 08:00 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.


Edited by Joh.Ke (01/19/24 08:01 AM)


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: geokills] * 1
    #28626849 - 01/19/24 08:03 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

When i see photos like yours I immediately think "that would be a great cover image for a book!"

Logical_Chaos has great ones too.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626872 - 01/19/24 08:30 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:

Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.




Yeah except that I don't though, actually.

I will acquiesce to your request though, and call your idea fucking stupid.

Your idea is profoundly and irrecoverably stupid, foolish, and shortsighted in the extreme, as well as being both insanely dumb and also sillier than a sockful of sapsuckers.   


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626873 - 01/19/24 08:31 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:

Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.




Yeah except that I don't though, actually.




You don't think you need to apologize to people for calling them a fucking idiot?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626877 - 01/19/24 08:33 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Who would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626878 - 01/19/24 08:35 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Who would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




You don't know its bad to call people a fucking idiot?


Edited by Joh.Ke (01/19/24 08:36 AM)


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626880 - 01/19/24 08:36 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626881 - 01/19/24 08:38 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626882 - 01/19/24 08:39 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.




Why is it bad? If I see a red car, I'll say "Look at that red car". If I see a fucking idiot, I'll say "wow, look at that fucking idiot."

Is it bad to call a red car, red?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626885 - 01/19/24 08:42 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:
Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.




Why is it bad? If I see a red car, I'll say "Look at that red car". If I see a fucking idiot, I'll say "wow, look at that fucking idiot."

Is it bad to call a red car, red?




Then you need to prove that I am objectively a fucking idiot.  Chances are, I say something you disagree with, however you are too stupid to articulate why you dislike my idea, so instead you just attack me personally.


Edited by Joh.Ke (01/19/24 08:45 AM)


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
    #28626891 - 01/19/24 08:52 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626924 - 01/19/24 09:23 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago)

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Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.



Thank you for expounding.

As for why I suggested such an idea: you know how sometimes the wife (usually it's the woman, but can sometimes be the man) just says she is "not happy in the marriage", or cites any such frivolous reasons as the grounds for initiating a divorce, which breaks apart an otherwise OK marriage.  Mainly I want to prevent this from happening because I feel that the welfare of the children should come ahead of the parents' happiness, unless there is something serious going on like abuse or infidelity.  But I think you have a point too.  And I think we would need to sit down at a table and hash something out that can adequately address the issue I mentioned above, while not forcing two people who hate each other, to stay together.

You mentioned government overreach, and yes I agree what I suggested would indeed be one instance of such overreach.  However, the thing is, the government already reaches into quite a few aspects of our lives, forcing us to do things we don't want to do.  One example: laws concerning child abandonment.  The government is essentially saying that parents have to rear their child.  When you think about it, this is forcing people to do what they don't want to do, and constitutes a violation of their bodily freedom.  But guess what?  Most of us agree that such a law is reasonable.  So this tells me that there are instances where the government can compel people to do things against their wish, as long as there is something more important at stake, namely, the welfare of a child.  And we just need to extend this line of reasoning to divorces.  Yes to force an unhappy wife to stay in her marriage is encroaching on her freedom and bodily autonomy.  However, it is for the welfare of the children in said marriage, which trumps all, as we found earlier.  And since we already established a precedent where the government can make parents do things against their wish, this is why I feel that we can make them do what they don't want to do in yet another area.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626932 - 01/19/24 09:34 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago)

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Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.



Thank you for expounding.

As for why I suggested such an idea: you know how sometimes the wife (usually it's the woman, but can sometimes be the man) just says she is "not happy in the marriage", or cites any such frivolous reasons as the grounds for initiating a divorce, which breaks apart an otherwise OK marriage.  Mainly I want to prevent this from happening because I feel that the welfare of the children should come ahead of the parents' happiness, unless there is something serious going on like abuse or infidelity.  But I think you have a point too.  And I think we would need to sit down at a table and hash something out that can adequately address the issue I mentioned above, while not forcing two people who hate each other, to stay together.

You mentioned government overreach, and yes I agree what I suggested would indeed be one instance of such overreach.  However, the thing is, the government already reaches into quite a few aspects of our lives, forcing us to do things we don't want to do.  One example: laws concerning child abandonment.  The government is essentially saying that parents have to rear their child.  When you think about it, this is forcing people to do what they don't want to do, and constitutes a violation of their bodily freedom.  But guess what?  Most of us agree that such a law is reasonable.  So this tells me that there are instances where the government can compel people to do things against their wish, when there is something more important at stake, namely, the welfare of a child.  And we just need to extend this line of reasoning to divorces.  Yes to force an unhappy wife to stay in her marriage is encroaching on her freedom and bodily autonomy.  However, it is for the welfare of the children in said marriage, which trumps all, as we found earlier.  And since we already established a precedent where the government can make parents do things against their wish, this is why I feel that we can make them do what they don't want to do in yet another area.




Not being happy in the marriage, is, to me, not frivolous. The point of a relationship to be happy, or at least happier than if you were not in one. So if someone isn't happy in the marriage, that's not an "otherwise OK" relationship. If you were on fire, but your credit score was good, your car's oil didn't need changing, and your shoes fit well, would you say that you were "otherwise OK"? No, you'd be screaming and trying to put yourself out. Because the FIRE is the important thing.

We also disagree that the parents staying together in an unhappy relationship is somehow better for the children. It's not. "Staying together for the kids" leads to exactly what I mentioned before, the children having a wildly inaccurate template of what a good relationship should be.

Your point about it being a government overreach, but that's ok because the government ALREADY overreaches, is...Well let's just say I disagree that because something wrong is already happening that we should say fuck it and double down.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626952 - 01/19/24 09:51 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago)

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Not being happy in the marriage, is, to me, not frivolous. The point of a relationship to be happy, or at least happier than if you were not in one. So if someone isn't happy in the marriage, that's not an "otherwise OK" relationship. If you were on fire, but your credit score was good, your car's oil didn't need changing, and your shoes fit well, would you say that you were "otherwise OK"? No, you'd be screaming and trying to put yourself out. Because the FIRE is the important thing.




Maybe the point of being in a relationship is to be happy but I think for a marriage, the bar should be set higher, especially when there are children involved.  Once your marriage produced a child, your priority should not be your personal happiness anymore.  It should now be about giving the child the most stable and best possible environment to grow up in.

Your fire analogy is not accurate.  I would not liken a woman feeling "unhappy" to being on fire.  Of course, maybe some of them are genuinely extremely unhappy, this is possible.  However, what I meant is that a lot of them simply dissolve a marriage just because they are not 100% satisfied with it, despite there not being any glaring flaw in said marriage.  I know it's bad that a third party such as the society tries to determine levels of happiness in a private relationship, but I really think it needs to be done because there is a pandemic of women breaking up with their husbands for pretty much no good reasons.

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We also disagree that the parents staying together in an unhappy relationship is somehow better for the children. It's not. "Staying together for the kids" leads to exactly what I mentioned before, the children having a wildly inaccurate template of what a good relationship should be.




This is a valid point and I should keep this in mind as I try to modify and improve my suggestion.

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Your point about it being a government overreach, but that's ok because the government ALREADY overreaches, is...Well let's just say I disagree that because something wrong is already happening that we should say fuck it and double down.



Actually, I didn't say governmental overreach is always wrong.  I said that when there is something more important at stake, then government intrusion into people's lives can sometimes be justified.

Furthermore, if you are against government overreach in my suggested idea, but you don't actively protest against similar overreach in, say, child abandonment laws, this means you are inconsistent in the application of your sense of justice.


Edited by Joh.Ke (01/19/24 10:07 AM)


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